View Full Version : So, then. Save The Holy Land, or Destroy it?

05-06-2006, 04:18 PM

05-06-2006, 04:19 PM
Save it or destroy it? Why not both?

05-06-2006, 07:32 PM
Why not save it by making yourself ruler over it?
Nah. Personally I'd stick with the cross dudes.

05-06-2006, 07:38 PM
save the holy land.

05-06-2006, 10:24 PM
Dude... save it of course. But, from what I've seen so far, the Creed is way to fanatical to actually save anything... It'll destroy it.

05-07-2006, 12:35 AM
what's a holy land? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

*goes back hiding under a rock

05-07-2006, 12:47 AM
so.. the crusades were a Catholic attempt to "free" the Holy Land from "infidel" Muslims. The Holy Land is Tthe Israel/Palestine area, which according to Judaic religions was given, by God, to the Jews. Since Both Christians and Muslims thought the other was a corrupt sect, they thought the other unworthy of controlling the Holy Land, hence the crusades.

Altair (main character) is a member of a group of assassins (The Creed) who are trying to save the Holy Land by disabling both sides of the conflict.
Hope taht helps... if you come out from your rock

05-07-2006, 01:07 AM
It really depends on what the creed the assassin lives by states.

05-07-2006, 01:10 AM
*peers from under it

Oooooh O_O , thanx http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Then my choice would be....

Saving the holy land I guess <___<

05-07-2006, 02:54 AM
First option ^___^ <STRIKE>even though my dark side would choose the second </STRIKE> >___>

05-07-2006, 03:50 AM
Aww! Come on, we need more anarchists!

05-07-2006, 07:32 AM
Hmm, anyone else thinking 2 endings?

05-08-2006, 01:32 AM
I would destroy it first http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif, but after that i would save it. It's so fun being evil, even when i tried to make a good account on fable, i still ended up evil... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

05-08-2006, 01:57 AM
Originally posted by Mouse03:
Hmm, anyone else thinking 2 endings? We can only hope

05-08-2006, 12:05 PM
I really HATE 2 endings. Or more. I really hope they just give it one super-ending, instead of 2 silly ones.

05-08-2006, 12:34 PM
I'd propably save it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

05-08-2006, 01:08 PM
<span class="ev_code_BLUE">I'll destroy it the first time i play. Then save it, lOL.</span>

05-08-2006, 02:37 PM
Destroy it. The "Holy Land" is founded by the Cruesaders which were nothing more than a bunch of religious zealots mindlessly killing the people who didn't have their religion under the fake guise that its what God wants.

Kill all the Cruesaders and all those who supported them in my opinion.

05-08-2006, 10:56 PM
Ok, I bet there's going to be stuff going on during gameplay that will eventually decide what side you, being the main cahracter, favor. Maybe there will be 2 different endings, depending.

For example:
To favor the Muslim endeavor of ridding Jerusalem of the Crusaders maybe you'll focus your points of interests towards the Crusader leaders, maybe even openly attacking their soldiers in the streets. Hell, maybe you'll even be given a mission from other assassins of the Creed to help bring in some Muslim forces through a secret passage or something to help take out the stronger Crusader forces.

For the Crusaders, maybe you secretly help out the Europeans by helping getting rid of Muslim targets, helping out the Crusaders keep control of the city for themselves. I could be wrong but I think it's an interesting theory.

You make your own choices that help decide Jerusalem's fate, and the world compensates with your actions. For instance, if you take out a Muslim Guerilla leader or something and dispatch his body gaurds, the other Muslims lose hope in the area and maybe even flee, or give themselves up to be hanged, at which point a powerful man of the Crusaders might make an appearance for the hanging of the Muslims and it will give you the opportunity to get rid of him as well. In short, it's kind of like cause and effect. Hopefully this'll give the Ubi Team some ideas, heh.

05-09-2006, 10:19 AM
well i'm living in the "holy land".. of course I'll save my country.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

06-27-2006, 03:12 PM
God, I hope this isn't about muslims vs. christians...i'd hate to decide. But if its good vs bad/black vs white ofcourse id fight the baddies. so, if its good muslim vs bad christians then id go with eagleoboy (just as in other game, i chose to fight against the bad muslims, like a certain pakistani warlord in a certain ubisoft game who went by the name of rahil and DIDNT SPEEK URDU!!!)


06-28-2006, 03:51 PM
Well i would take over it, stealing it from whoever owns it, i would call that saving...but under my rule i would end up destroying it O_o

so both http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

06-29-2006, 12:58 AM
AlexCrimson, the crusaders who lived in the Holy Land during this time were actually mostly "natives". They were descendants of the original crusaders, but had by that time settled into a more relaxed lifestyle (speaking of the actual people, not key historic figures who traveled there to fight an unwanted war). By destroying the Holy Land (or Outremer, as the crusader states were called by the inhabitants) it's not just bloodthirsty Europeans that are killed. Many of the Franks who settled had intermarried with the original inhabitants and created a new cultural identity for themselves.

On the same note of historical perspective, I'm a little more than confused as to why the Templars or any other crusaders would have a heavy presence in Jerusalem in 1191. The city was taken in 1187 after the Battle of Hattin, so I'm hoping that it will have a greater Muslim presence than in Tyre or Acre...

07-03-2006, 09:19 PM
Destroy it, so that way, they have nothing to fight over... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

07-09-2006, 07:53 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif or make it a dayspot 4 believers.....aquaria,bellydancers and a nice and big meetingroom for discussions about what to do with them artefacts that they were fighting over http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif maybe an attached boxingring in case some need that convincing push....

07-09-2006, 09:44 PM
KILL HOLYNESS!! KILLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

07-16-2006, 03:37 AM
I guess save it. Then play a second time and destroy it.

Btw, what's the whole quote? "..., they alone could save the Holy Land. Or destroy it."

07-17-2006, 02:53 PM
I'd save it so the Europeans, mainly the French, can continue their expansion eastward and become even more powerful than they eventually became throughout history...maybe even achieving world domination!

07-18-2006, 12:42 PM
kill off both sides and save the Hol Land all to myself


07-22-2006, 01:17 PM
im not sure wat i'd do....maybe u could save the holy land while trying to save it....or vice versa

07-23-2006, 02:05 PM
destroy it. i just can't play a game without being evil. Fable? pure evil. Oblivion? i kill people all the time! i also kill teammates in fps games (talkin abut the AI buddies, not online real people)

07-24-2006, 03:36 AM
Being evil in Oblivion and being evil in Fable is a totally big difference tho.Good and Evil is overrated, fame and infamy ftw. Hope it will be like Oblivion...That you can be good in your social life ( yeah I know that sounds silly) but you can be a badass killing people and having fun without no one knowing it was you http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

07-24-2006, 11:17 AM
yeah in oblivion i try to jump on buildings and shoot arrows at people without being seen by guards. it usually works, and its fun.

07-24-2006, 03:30 PM
Saving the holy land or destroying it? In this case i think saving the holy land would be siding with the Muslims right? Destroying the holy land would be siding with Christians right? Destroying the holy land doesnt sound right at all. No one wants to destroy the holy land. Religious groups want to take over the land or share it but that is rare. Since the main character is a Muslim, he wouldnt want to side with the Christians because they're trying to conquer the land(not destroy it).Idiot...(Napolean Dynomite voice).Both sides feel they are saving the land from infidels!

07-25-2006, 01:01 PM

I choose to save the holy land which is known as phalasteen.

07-25-2006, 01:30 PM
Originally posted by xasspenx:
Saving the holy land or destroying it? In this case i think saving the holy land would be siding with the Muslims right? Destroying the holy land would be siding with Christians right? Destroying the holy land doesnt sound right at all. No one wants to destroy the holy land. Religious groups want to take over the land or share it but that is rare. Since the main character is a Muslim, he wouldnt want to side with the Christians because they're trying to conquer the land(not destroy it).Idiot...(Napolean Dynomite voice).Both sides feel they are saving the land from infidels! I was wondering when someone would come along to take all the fun out of this lighthearted discussion.

07-25-2006, 05:17 PM
sorry, its just that the question Save the Holy Land, or Destroy it didnt make sense when... i wont repeat what i already wrote.

07-25-2006, 07:04 PM
Depends on how the game goes. Both sides ahve their positives and negatives, although the historical reality tends to shockingly favor the Christians over the Muslims in most cases - the Week of Blood being a very notable exception. Salah ah-Din wasn't bad, but the Arabs who followed in his wake were quite awful.

07-29-2006, 07:41 AM
they were all pretty cruel in those days(muslims and christians). after one group took over didnt they have an ethic cleansing of the population?

07-29-2006, 03:13 PM
The crusaders did slaughter all people who lived in Jerusalem when they took it over in 1099. Saladin, on the other hand, didn't kill the entire population when he took it back in 1187. He's garnered a good reputation for being honorable, but it wasn't all sugar and candies. When people talk about how he let everyone in Jerusalem leave in peace, they usually omit the fact that he charged a ransom of 10 bezants (also spelled besants, which was the currency of the area) per person. If you couldn't pay for yourself, it was off to the slave market. So many Franks (innocent Franks, mind ye people who are excited about vengeance) were taken into slavery that they essentially crashed the market. I've heard that a boot was worth as much as a slave, but it's probably an exaggeration.

07-29-2006, 05:49 PM
well...if we are given the choice...i think id save it the first time...like before every assassanation i know im probably going to look for every oppourtunity available to make friends with the factions and do everything good...and then ill probably do the exact opposite the second time through

08-03-2006, 07:01 PM
As an assassin, i do whatever im paid to do

08-08-2006, 09:39 AM
<span class="ev_code_RED">Destroy it, blow it up, kill em all ha ha ha </span> http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif <span class="ev_code_BLUE">ups sry don't know what came over me</span>

10-28-2006, 11:32 AM
I would see wath happens if i do stuff randomlyhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

Defend for Honor , Fight for Survival

Anything that sticks out more than 2 inches is Interactive(Realy!)

10-28-2006, 01:37 PM
Destroy it big time.

10-29-2006, 07:18 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif slaughter anything that moves then burn stuff! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif kill corrupt guys and uncorrupt guys!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gifthen torture them

10-29-2006, 09:52 AM
Love & Peace I say http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">


10-29-2006, 02:24 PM
Well....i would probley save it...... WHAT AM I SAYING! *slaps self* i must burn everything in my way http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

10-30-2006, 09:11 AM
What? What video? Two endings!? This is just speculation, right?
You can pick sides? I thought you had to end the war by crippling both sides!????????

10-30-2006, 10:12 AM
i think u do

10-31-2006, 09:38 AM
Any help on this? Plz?

I heard there is a second dev diary but I don't find it!

10-31-2006, 03:10 PM
First i'd kill both the Crusaders and the Muslims with my PEW PEW LASER EYE BEAM, PEW PEW PEW PEW!!, then, i'd make myself ruler over the land which now will be named Coca Cola.

11-04-2006, 09:00 PM
I found the second dev diary but.... is there any hints of this RPG/choose your side element???????????

11-05-2006, 03:26 AM
where is it

11-11-2006, 10:35 AM
Originally posted by Bujaa:
First i'd kill both the Crusaders and the Muslims with my PEW PEW LASER EYE BEAM, PEW PEW PEW PEW!!, then, i'd make myself ruler over the land which now will be named Coca Cola.
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif Buhahaha that's so funy Ha Ha Ha http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif
I finaly change'd my mind: <span class="ev_code_RED">I'd kill 'em ALL HA HA HA</span> http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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12-06-2009, 06:53 AM
Destroy the "Holy" land and everyone stupid enough to think it is "Holy". Boom, no more crusades, no present day wars between 2 groups of people fighting over who's lies are better, no christianity (hopefully) to cloud the (already small) mind of G.W into delusions of real-live "Demons" walking the earth in the middle east daring him to find and destroy them, and no more injustices against unintelligent (albeit completely innocent) people who can't control their Thanatophobia.
I think I just described the closest thing to a perfect world we could ever hope for.......