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msalama
04-29-2005, 01:43 PM
Hi again!

Now how's this Cobra then? I've tried all the others already - and loved them - but this baby has somehow evaded my clammy hands so far! Alas, not anymore http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

But any thoughts on how to crash the bird in style? How's the stall/spin behaviour, for example? And are there any good missions available you'd like to recommend?

Thanks for your answers in advance!

msalama
04-29-2005, 01:43 PM
Hi again!

Now how's this Cobra then? I've tried all the others already - and loved them - but this baby has somehow evaded my clammy hands so far! Alas, not anymore http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

But any thoughts on how to crash the bird in style? How's the stall/spin behaviour, for example? And are there any good missions available you'd like to recommend?

Thanks for your answers in advance!

LStarosta
04-29-2005, 02:30 PM
It's just a P-40 with a Zero on its tail.

tjaika1910
04-29-2005, 02:39 PM
Hey, LStarosta was actually witty! Fact!

Chuck_Older
04-29-2005, 03:36 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tjaika1910:
Hey, LStarosta was actually witty! Fact! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

He is regularly witty, but in this case that's a WWII era joke http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Chuck_Older
04-29-2005, 03:40 PM
Stupid double post. Ubi, your forums really don't work so well

PBNA-Boosher
04-29-2005, 03:46 PM
It is basically a P-39D-1 with some armor taken off of it and a 20mm hispano cannon. Fly it like you would any other 39, but the 20mm cannon gives you room to play rather than the precise requirements of the 37mm.

han freak solo
04-29-2005, 06:14 PM
I like the whole P-39/P-400/P63 series.

Beware of Ki-43 Oscars, though. Somehow their measly twin 12.7s will make your life miserable. And if you try to turn with them you will spin into to the sea.

The P-40 B/C has the same issue with Oscars, too. But at least the P-400 has better firepower.

VW-IceFire
04-29-2005, 09:59 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by msalama:
Hi again!

Now how's this Cobra then? I've tried all the others already - and loved them - but this baby has somehow evaded my clammy hands so far! Alas, not anymore http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

But any thoughts on how to crash the bird in style? How's the stall/spin behaviour, for example? And are there any good missions available you'd like to recommend?

Thanks for your answers in advance! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
P-400 was the British version of the P-39 that was almost entirely rejected and sent to the Pacific because they were urgently in need of fighters of any type.

Flies like any other P-39D really...its sort of heavy in the ailerons and not happy in stalls...but its quite agile if treated properly.

msalama
04-29-2005, 11:38 PM
OK gents, good morning & thanks for your answers!

Well I'm kinda hesitant about the lack of that big cannon. The 20mm. definitely makes things easier, but that's exactly what I DON'T like! I mean the 37mm. is a difficult weapon, sure, but used right... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

The rear visibility OTOH is a big plus. It's much better than in other Cobras.

So yep, gotta continue with my flight tests because that one surely is an interesting plane. Thanks for answers so far everyone!

PS. Lstarosta, that's an old one http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

WTE_Warg
04-30-2005, 02:05 AM
I read about this a month or two ago. Msalama, your first observation about the 20mm was right on the money. Most pilots in the Pacific theatre swapped the 37mm for a 20mm at the first opportunity. Apparently the 37mm was prone to jamming and the trajectory required special skills in aerial combat, especially against the Zero or Oscar. I can just picture the longnose pilots, lining up to scavenge the next wreck of a Lightning. Mind you, I also like that firepower of the 37mm and it certainly doesn't jam as often in FB, as was reported in actual combat. Gotta love the Cobra.

msalama
04-30-2005, 08:07 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Gotta love the Cobra. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

...and you ain't just saying that!

But the big gun sure is a demanding weapon... about the only way I can hit anything is at extremely close range, and even then I do miss occasionally... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

But when that big bullet DOES hit... well, that's all she wrote more often than not http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

So yep - gotta luv that babe, definitely!

3.JG51_BigBear
04-30-2005, 08:51 AM
I personally prefer the 20MM of the P-400. A BB gun has enough stopping power to take down an early zero or oscar and I find that rate of fire is more important than hitting power in the early war scenarios so the 20 makes for the better air to air weapon. Its still a crappy airplane.

LStarosta
04-30-2005, 09:33 AM
My sentiments exactly, BigBear.

The 20mm cannon is a more practical weapon aboard a fighter aircraft than the 37mm cannon. No one can dispute that. It's easy for people to say that they rather fly with the 37mm cannon, but I guarantee you that given the choice, you would choose the 20mm cannon in real life. Your ability to splash or disable a bandit is the most important thing in air to air combat, especially if the life of your wingman or other squadmates depends on it. How would you feel if your wingman was trailing a bandit on his six waiting for you to take him out, but you constantly keep missing with that mini-howitzer in your nose. How would you feel if your wingman died because of this? In flight simulators, you can afford countless hours of practice to get proficient with your weapon of choice. And you don't have to worry about physical and mental stress in the cockpit ruining your marksmanship. These, unfortunately, are luxuries not available to real pilots.

BSS_CUDA
04-30-2005, 09:42 AM
heh the Irony was that in RL the P39 was rejected soundly in favor of the P38, they had a bad tendency to tuck a tail under them during a high G turn, even tho the production numbers were about the same 9923 P38's, 9558 P39's, the majority of the P39's went to Russia, we wouldnt even put our own pilots in them. in the game it fly's pretty well tho, like to shed control surfaces at speed tho http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

msalama
04-30-2005, 12:00 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">the majority of the P39's went to Russia, we wouldnt even put our own pilots in them. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, but you seem to forget that the Russians were actually very successful with the type. The plane is quite fast down low, where most of the Eastern front action was, whereas in the West the combat was in high altitude where the Cobra doesn't stand a chance.

And that's one of the main reasons why it was rejected here.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Its still a crappy airplane. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Crappy? Well, the spin tendency is there, definitely, but the plane is still a formidable weapon in right hands IMHO. You just gotta remember the limitations, and always take them into account. Plain and simple.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">...you would choose the 20mm cannon in real life. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Agreed. I probably would, now that you mention it...