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john_bilbrey
01-15-2005, 02:24 PM
OK, I've looked everywhere in the "controls" section for key commands and can't seem to locate the one for radiator controls. Am I blind, or where is it listed? I know they are in there, I just can't find them. Is it called something other than radiator?

john_bilbrey
01-15-2005, 02:24 PM
OK, I've looked everywhere in the "controls" section for key commands and can't seem to locate the one for radiator controls. Am I blind, or where is it listed? I know they are in there, I just can't find them. Is it called something other than radiator?

Chuck_Older
01-15-2005, 04:11 PM
"Cowl or Armor Flaps" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Don't ask why it doesn't say "radiator", i have no idea

john_bilbrey
01-15-2005, 05:43 PM
Thanks! I agree, it makes no sense, but there it is anyway. I've been pulling my hair out for a while now!

x6BL_Brando
01-16-2005, 04:56 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Don't ask why it doesn't say "radiator", i have no idea <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Probably because it's named according to the action that goes with the command. I.e. You open the cowl flaps to admit air to the radiator, you don't open the radiator per se. Otherwise, you're opening the armoured flaps that protect the cylinders (in the case of a radial, air-cooled engine) from bullets and/or shrapnel, birdstrikes, etc. - no radiator involved.

So, especially in the latter case, the command title isn't strange at all, merely correct - if a little picky! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Chuck_Older
01-16-2005, 06:15 AM
While that sounds logical, you are forgetting that engines with liquid cooling don't nessecarily have radiators in the cowl. Example: P-51 series of aircraft http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I understand what you mean more than you know, as an Aeronautical Engineering school drop-out, I did manage to stay awake through enough courses to know what cowl flaps might be, but the fact remains that for a sim player, "cowl or armor flaps" might be a tad less confusing if the name included the word "radiator", as in "Cowl flaps or radiator door", since we both know radiators don't typically have flaps, but they do have 'doors'.

So, I still have no idea why the word 'radiator' didn't get into the description for the engine's cooling system

A bird would have to be flying pretty fast to get in the cowl flaps, though, I think http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif Also, if you look at some of the aircraft from the '30s and '40s, there was a minor trend towards radiators that cranked down into the airstream, so you kind of would be 'opening' the radiator. On one hand, the sim sort of expects you to know these things, and on the other, it doesn't explain itself well to the less than astute player, so the omission of 'radiator' in the command is confusing for many players, at least to me. The sim is full of this type of stuff

Take the wing flaps for example.

While some aircraft did use terms like "combat" and "landing" for the flap positions, it was much more common to use degrees of flap. But have you noticed that every once in a while, we get some poor guy who is baffled by when he should use his combat flaps? The terminology is confusing to a lot of folks in the sim and it would have been simple to avoid that whole pitfall. Translation versus transliteration? I dunno