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triad773
05-28-2007, 10:40 AM
See here for original page and info
http://www.shorpy.com/node/855?size=_original

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http://www.shorpy.com/files/images/1a35324uu_0.jpg

triad773
05-28-2007, 10:40 AM
See here for original page and info
http://www.shorpy.com/node/855?size=_original

More there too- just Search for WWII, aviation
http://www.shorpy.com/

http://www.shorpy.com/files/images/1a35324uu_0.jpg

major_setback
05-28-2007, 01:51 PM
It's http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif:

http://www.shorpy.com/files/images/02944u.jpg

triad773
05-28-2007, 02:01 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

slo_1_2_3
05-28-2007, 03:08 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by triad773:
See here for original page and info
http://www.shorpy.com/node/855?size=_original

More there too- just Search for WWII, aviation
http://www.shorpy.com/

http://www.shorpy.com/files/images/1a35324uu_0.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>why does that make me think its a p-40?

VW-IceFire
05-28-2007, 03:12 PM
Its an early model Mustang with the experimental 20mm cannons, original canopy framing, and the engine is an Allison so its very much like the P-40. But even at this stage it was a fair bit better overall.

slo_1_2_3
05-28-2007, 03:12 PM
These are realy nice pics

triad773
05-28-2007, 03:18 PM
I believe (IIRC) that version was the P-51B, a.k.a., Apache with Allison engines and intended more for ground attack role than air supremacy.

Triad

Korolov1986
05-28-2007, 03:19 PM
On the note of the Mustang, how many Mustang IAs were delivered or used in service?

P-51A/Mustang IA would be the low altitude BnZ plane for the allies in '42.

EDIT:

triad773, the P-51B was the first Merlin engined production variant of the Mustang.

Divine-Wind
05-28-2007, 04:34 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by triad773:
I believe (IIRC) that version was the P-51B, a.k.a., Apache with Allison engines and intended more for ground attack role than air supremacy.

Triad </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
P-51B was the first model to use the Merlin engine. The A-36 was a P-51A adapted for as a full-time divebomber, if I remember correctly. Both used the Allison engine, which meant they were generally delegated to ground attack duties as the Allison had below-average performance at altitude.

slo_1_2_3
05-28-2007, 04:43 PM
Maybe it was just the desert camo that threw me off, I've seen alot of p-40's painted like that and they have a similar shape

R_Target
05-28-2007, 05:47 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Korolov1986:
On the note of the Mustang, how many Mustang IAs were delivered or used in service? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

150 I believe.

berg417448
05-28-2007, 06:01 PM
One interesting fact is that some Allison powered Mustangs continued in use right up until the end of the war:


"Attrition and war-weariness reduced the numbers of Allison Mustangs in England as they were replaced by better types, but on D-Day there were three RAF, two RCAF, and one USAAF squadrons operating them from Britain. Their numbers continued to dwindle, but by the war's end, the RAF was still operating two squadrons of them, and the USAAF was performing tactical reconnaissance with the handful they had left. The RAF finally phased theirs out at the end of 1945, with about 72 of them still on the lists. "
http://www.vectorsite.net/avp51_1.html

According to this site "A total of about 1,583 Allison-powered Mustangs were built."

triad773
05-28-2007, 06:35 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Korolov1986:
On the note of the Mustang, how many Mustang IAs were delivered or used in service?

P-51A/Mustang IA would be the low altitude BnZ plane for the allies in '42.

EDIT:

triad773, the P-51B was the first Merlin engined production variant of the Mustang. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hmm.. I stand corrected. Yeah the Apache was the A then. A dynamite airframe from the beginning, and they knew it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Korolov1986
05-28-2007, 11:29 PM
More or less using up the budget Congress had limited them at the time.

No more money for fighters, so rather than kill the production line, throw dive brakes on it with some extra bomb racks and call it a dive bomber.