View Full Version : Big Pic DrI Triplane....for WWI enthusiasts

01-22-2005, 11:46 AM

I know - I should have just posted the link...

01-22-2005, 11:51 AM
very cool, thanks for sharing http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

01-22-2005, 11:52 AM
The soloist in the most epic 7 vs 1 ever...

01-22-2005, 12:12 PM
Now there's an uber plane http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

01-22-2005, 12:20 PM
Traded away speed, though. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

01-22-2005, 01:11 PM
It's amazing how small that plane is.

01-22-2005, 03:37 PM
not fast ...but it could pivot instantly...not to mention its climb rate.

01-22-2005, 03:45 PM
Sweet! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Hmmm, maybe I should repost "Hey Little Fokker"..... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

01-22-2005, 04:41 PM
I've got a few pics of Manfred von Richtofen and his DrI. I've also got one of him and his German Shepherd, he's definitely a hero and a cool guy. I have his personal diary as well.

01-22-2005, 04:46 PM
You got a signed autograph from the Red Baron I see. Its nice to see he hasnt lost touch with his fanbase like most celebrities, how did you approach him? Was he nice?

01-22-2005, 08:10 PM
He was actually quite a nice guy, yeah. His dog's name was Moritz, by the way.

Manfred was pretty awesome. But I have to admit, he did smell a bit, being dead for close to 96 years by now. It is important to remember: While the outside may appear rotten and disfigured, it's what's inside that counts. The Red Baron was not a cold blooded killer. He felt for every man he shot down. After awhile it began to take a toll on him. By his 50th kill, the names had begun to take a toll. The last few months of his life were lived in utter depression.

I didn't get a chance to meet his brother Lothar, but the man was a 40 kill ace, and was the one who shot down famed British ace, Albert Ball. Lothar was indeed a character, but I was not able to meet him. I assume he was like his brother.

01-22-2005, 08:56 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Brotrob:
The soloist in the most epic 7 vs 1 ever... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Werner Voss

01-22-2005, 09:27 PM
yes - that is his signature - W.Voss Jasta 10



I love history...especially aviation history...if only there was such a network on the TV..

01-22-2005, 09:29 PM
I've debated with another WWI nut on this. IMO, Voss was the best CP pilot, and better than MvR. He just pushed his luck too much and it ran out sooner (he went up for "one more" dawn patrol that day when he really had no reason too, and was in need of rest).

01-22-2005, 10:02 PM
One thing about the Red Baron a lot of folks forget is that he had a little brother who was also a ****ed good pilot, and was an ace in WWI also. He was killed though, and apparently some said that it was a turning point in Richtofen's life, as he seemed to be more wreckless in the air.

01-23-2005, 01:22 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif Russian Top Gun's of WW1.


Russian Aces of WW1 - Alexander Kozakov

Name: Aleksandr Alexandrovich Kozakov
Country: Russia
Rank: Polkovnik
Service: Imperial Russian Air Service
Units: 4th Corps Air
Detachment 19th Corps Detachment
Victories: 20
Date Of Birth: January 15, 1889
Place of Birth: Kherson Province
Date Of Death: August 1, 1919
Place of Death: Near Benezniky

Russia's highest scoring ace was educated in military schools and entered the army in 1908. After serving in the cavalry, he transferred to aviation in 1913 and by the following year was assigned to the 4th Corps Air Detachment in Poland where he flew reconnaissance and bombing missions in a Morane-Saulnier. Having made several unsuccessful attempts to bring down enemy aircraft by dangling explosives and grappling hooks beneath his plane, Kozakov scored his first victory in the spring of 1915 by ramming his opponent.
In September of 1915, he assumed command of the 19th Corps Air Detachment but scored no additional victories that year and only 2 more by August of 1916 when he assumed command of the 1st Combat Air Group. In February of 1917, his CAG was ordered to Romania where Kozakov scored eight more victories before being wounded in action on 27 June 1917. With 20 victories, he resigned his commission in January of 1918 and joined the British Joint Military forces at Murmansk in June. Promoted to the rank of Major, he commanded the Slavo-British air detachment at Benezniky and continued flying combat missions until he was again wounded in January of 1919

In March, he returned to duty but became deeply depressed by the withdrawal of British forces from Russia in the summer of 1919. On the evening of August 1, 1919, ignoring an invitation to a farewell dinner for British pilots, he took off in a Sopwith only to crash to his death a few moments later. Having watched Kozakov pull a loop at low altitude and stall the plane,Ira Jones concluded the Russian Ace of Aces "brought about his own death and staged it in the most dramatic manner."

Pilot's Name Victories
Alexander A. Kozakov 20
Vasili Yanchenko 16
Pavel V. Argeyev 15
Ivan W. Smirnov 11
Grigory Suk 9
Donat Makeenok 8
Yevgraph Kruten 7
Valdimir Strizhesky 7
Ivan Loiko 6
Alexander Seversky 6
Konstantin Vakulovsky 6
Victor Fedorov 5
Juri Gilsher 5
Nikolai Kokorin 5
Ernst Leman 5
Ivan Orlov 5
Alexander Pishvanov 5
Eduard Pulpe 5
Mikhail Safonov 5

Link: http://www.wwiaviation.com/aces/aces_russian.shtml

01-23-2005, 05:30 AM
Uber plane, indeed.....and an "uber" lens on that camera too!

01-23-2005, 06:49 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tooz_69GIAP:
One thing about the Red Baron a lot of folks forget is that he had a little brother who was also a ****ed good pilot, and was an ace in WWI also. He was killed though, and apparently some said that it was a turning point in Richtofen's life, as he seemed to be more wreckless in the air. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Lothar von Richtofen http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

The von Richtofen that is most overlooked is Wolfram

He was a cousin of Manfred and Lothar and scored eight victories in the Great War. In the Second World War, he was General in the Luftwaffe and a pioneer of close air support. He was the one who stopped the Polish thrust during Germany's assault on that country. He flew combat missions in a Storch, behind the stick, to direct his forces, often returning with a plane that resembled swiss cheese

01-23-2005, 06:55 AM
check this site http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif
(aircraft section and news)

01-23-2005, 07:07 AM
Lothar died after the war he was a barnstormer so he died after MVR.Many people believe that Lothar did not shootdown Ball.I for one think it is entirely possible. I agree Voss was the greatest ace of WW1.When he was the soloist in the 7-1 battle the english pilots were all aces put together in a special squad.They thought he was amazing,and he put bullets into all 7 of their crates before they got him.I wouldn't agree with the MVR statement about him being so caring.I've read all there is on and he viewed his kills pretty much like hunting.He had special cups made up for each kill and larger ones for 5 or 10 can't remember which.He also kept souveniers of each plane he could get something off.After his headwound he did seem different and disillusined but I beleive it was from all his m8's deaths.