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freakyre33
03-17-2008, 01:44 PM
ok the hurricane isn't really a p.o.s i just don't understand why when i make quick maneavers, or decend or accend rapidly the plane stalls. I have weed wackers that run better than this plane

freakyre33
03-17-2008, 01:44 PM
ok the hurricane isn't really a p.o.s i just don't understand why when i make quick maneavers, or decend or accend rapidly the plane stalls. I have weed wackers that run better than this plane

berg417448
03-17-2008, 01:57 PM
Are you referring to the negative G engine cut out that occurred on the early model Hurricanes?

This affected a number of other planes as well.

Friendly_flyer
03-17-2008, 02:09 PM
The old bird has a nasty tendency to stall when you really need it not to. I'm not sure it's really modelled too well, in real life it was supposed to be easy to fly.

Metatron_123
03-17-2008, 02:31 PM
It is easy to fly in the game.

Try flying against Fiat CR 42s. You'll slaughter them just like real life. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

And the Fiat IS a contemporary machine. 1938.

willyvic
03-17-2008, 02:35 PM
Most birds here need finesse when yanking and banking. They do not take well to ham fisting the controls.

WV.

Jaws2002
03-17-2008, 02:42 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by freakyre33:
ok the hurricane isn't really a p.o.s i just don't understand why when i make quick maneavers, or decend or accend rapidly the plane stalls. I have weed wackers that run better than this plane </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

First of all the Hurricane is not a weed wacker. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif Don't run it like one. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

DuxCorvan
03-17-2008, 02:57 PM
Ah, the old song! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif Wait to try the Fw-190... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

M_Gunz
03-17-2008, 03:53 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by freakyre33:
ok the hurricane isn't really a p.o.s i just don't understand why when i make quick maneavers, or decend or accend rapidly the plane stalls. I have weed wackers that run better than this plane </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Engine stalls or wing stalls?

freakyre33
03-17-2008, 04:26 PM
I don't yank to hard on my stick http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif i try to fly maneuvers fluently. lets say i see some bombers 500 ft below, i don't nose over easy sometimes, when im close, i just try and push it over quick and it stalls (engine)or pull up in to a 45 degree from horizontal plain it does it too. I mean when the engine cuts in mid air, why can't i turn it back on? The prop is already spinn, just the plugs need to fire in time.?

DKoor
03-17-2008, 04:27 PM
It was a nice aircraft for its time.
Was good interceptor and decent oppo to Bf-109E.

Here is what its capable of vs He-111 bombers:
http://www.esnips.com/doc/efa646ab-a81e-4ade-9201-58b51...Hurri-vs-4xHe111-405 (http://www.esnips.com/doc/efa646ab-a81e-4ade-9201-58b51d5487da/KunaHurri-vs-4xHe111-405)

About engine cutting, like others mentioned it's affected by negative Gs.
If your engine quits you can restart it by pressing engine start button (sometimes twice).
Anyhow here is how to do it in I-16:
http://www.esnips.com/doc/3c68efd3-f0b5-4653-af0e-b0cc1...KoorI16-airstart-402 (http://www.esnips.com/doc/3c68efd3-f0b5-4653-af0e-b0cc163fdd6a/DKoorI16-airstart-402)
In any case message "Engine: Starting" must appear.

M_Gunz
03-17-2008, 05:26 PM
IIRC in the spring of 42 a Miss Schilling designed a button with a pinhole in it the mostly
solved negative G cutout. It seems that our Hurricane is from before then or they overlooked
the mod or the mod never made it to the Hurricanes sent to Russia where the true facts live.

freakyre33
03-17-2008, 05:55 PM
one thing i like about the Hurri, is its wingloading, i mean its got enough of it, they don't even give you flaps, and it lands like a charm.

MB_Avro_UK
03-17-2008, 06:16 PM
Please clarify which type of Hurricane.

And as has been posted here, the Flight Model of the Hurricane does seem to conflict with pilot's accounts. But of course,than can be said for many aircraft here.

ooops..getting into deep water here... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

HuninMunin
03-17-2008, 06:38 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by M_Gunz:
or the mod never made it to the Hurricanes sent to Russia where the true facts live. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Gold.

Bo_Nidle
03-17-2008, 07:33 PM
If you mean the tendency for the engine to stop when the nose is pushed over, this is because the early model Hurricanes and Spitfires had gravity fed carburettors. When the nose is pushed over the negative G starves the carb of fuel and the engine coughs or even stops.

This was where the Me109E had the advantage as its engine was fuel injected and nose-overs did not affect it.

In the Hurri you have to roll onto its back and then dive to keep the fuel flowing.

Its annoying but quite accurate.

VW-IceFire
03-17-2008, 08:25 PM
The Hurricane is a great plane but not really a high performance one. When maneuvering you have to be just as careful as you are in other types...when you are the Hurricane responds magnificently and its completely predictable. I can yank it and bank it with other planes of the similar year with a fair bit of confidence...but thats because I've flown it...allot.

As with any plane it takes a bit of time flying it to get it together. Once you do then it really starts to become clear. The Hurricane is somewhat docile, doesn't do anything particularly fast, but it does everything with a fair bit of confidence you don't find in some of the twitchier types.

Feathered_IV
03-18-2008, 07:18 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Friendly_flyer:
The old bird has a nasty tendency to stall when you really need it not to. I'm not sure it's really modelled too well, in real life it was supposed to be easy to fly. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

A contemporary test pilot who flew both the Spit and Hurri (recent Flypast magazine article) observed that the Hurricane was a joy to handle on the ground, but a bit of a cow when above it. He said the Spit was the direct opposite.

dbillo
03-18-2008, 07:26 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MB_Avro_UK:
Please clarify which type of Hurricane.

And as has been posted here, the Flight Model of the Hurricane does seem to conflict with pilot's accounts. But of course,than can be said for many aircraft here.

ooops..getting into deep water here... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Best Regards,
MB_Avro. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Fortunately, this forum is awash with experienced WWII combat pilots, who are able to set us straight about all of these discrepancies in the game! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

M_Gunz
03-18-2008, 10:40 AM
Almost as many as gamers absolutely sure that they do everything right, any problems they
have must be the software's fault!

If I tell you there's a problem with something and You don't have any such problem, do you
keep your yap shut just because you didn't fly Plane X in WWII?

I can see if a WWII veteran was pointing out the problem and even then if he hasn't tuned the
inputs or just expects too much from a SIMULATION then too bad, but when one gamer says "this
doesn't work for me like the books say" it's another animal all together.