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LordTulla
08-06-2005, 07:53 AM
It would appear that US MYST fans are considered less of a customer than the European MYST fans... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif Why? Well, just look at what the European CE (http://www.ubi.com/UK/News/Info.aspx?nId=3339) contains. Where's our 152 page Exclusive collector booklet that includes:
- Intro from Rand Miller
- Exclusive world-premiering preview of the new Myst book (€œThe Book of Marrim€, written by Rand Miller).
- D€ni language grammar & dictionary
- Previous Myst games overview
- Artwork gallery

Why is it the US MYST fans aren't offered the same deal? Personally, I feel like I just got kicked in the teeth. I am both angry & saddened by this apparent marketing mistake http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif Perhaps this "other stuff" IS included in the US edition, but not identified as such. If that is the case, then it would be nice if we could get some feedback on the subject. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I can only hope that the US Myst community makes enough & persistent "noise" to UBISoft such that the US fans can acquire these additional MYST goodies... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

LordTulla
08-06-2005, 07:53 AM
It would appear that US MYST fans are considered less of a customer than the European MYST fans... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif Why? Well, just look at what the European CE (http://www.ubi.com/UK/News/Info.aspx?nId=3339) contains. Where's our 152 page Exclusive collector booklet that includes:
- Intro from Rand Miller
- Exclusive world-premiering preview of the new Myst book (€œThe Book of Marrim€, written by Rand Miller).
- D€ni language grammar & dictionary
- Previous Myst games overview
- Artwork gallery

Why is it the US MYST fans aren't offered the same deal? Personally, I feel like I just got kicked in the teeth. I am both angry & saddened by this apparent marketing mistake http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif Perhaps this "other stuff" IS included in the US edition, but not identified as such. If that is the case, then it would be nice if we could get some feedback on the subject. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I can only hope that the US Myst community makes enough & persistent "noise" to UBISoft such that the US fans can acquire these additional MYST goodies... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

ivanxuereb
08-06-2005, 08:35 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Why is it the US MYST fans aren't offered the same deal? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Why is it the EU MYST fans weren't offered the M4LE? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif I guess we're both even now

LordTulla
08-06-2005, 09:23 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ivanxuereb:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Why is it the US MYST fans aren't offered the same deal? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Why is it the EU MYST fans weren't offered the M4LE? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif I guess we're both even now </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Exactly my point! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif I'm not trying to start a UK vs. US fan war here. Rather, our mutual concern (and question to Ubisoft) should be "Why is there ANY difference between these Collector/Limited edition offerings?"

Are not Myst fans, Myst fans regardless of their residence?

dawnadunn
08-06-2005, 01:53 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Are not Myst fans, Myst fans regardless of their residence? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's it in a nutshell..!!!! As a Canadian...I was able to to purchase MYST IV Collector's Editions and send to my American forum buddies...however...there should no difference wherever the game is sold..!!!

I'm not not sure that "making noise" will help...it certainly didn't for the CE..!!

LordTulla
08-06-2005, 02:36 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dawnadunn:
I'm not not sure that "making noise" will help...it certainly didn't for the CE..!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE> While that may be true, if we sit by and say nothing then I guess UBI will have their decision justified.

However, if the collective fan base makes enough noise perhaps something good will come of it. After all, it costs nothing to voice one's objection (in this forum) to this terrible marketing policy.

Alahmnat
08-06-2005, 11:43 PM
UbiSoft has different marketing and development arms in the US and the EU, and in fact very often, what happens in one division doesn't happen in the other. They're very much independent, and at this stage in the game, it's way too late to get anything changed. If there's one thing I *have* learned, it's that even when Ubi does decide to do something, they move VERY slowly to get it done, but such is the case in any large company.

As an aside, people in the US can order the European Collectors Edition from the EU UbiSoft store online (shop.ubi.com, as opposed to store.ubi.com), but international orders incur a 25 shipping charge.

LordTulla
08-07-2005, 05:17 AM
Thank you for the explaination. Although it makes me wonder why UBISoft allows this marketing independancy with a world-wide game like MYST... I'm sure they have their reason(s). http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

I also know that I could order a CE from the EU store, but paying an additional $44.49 (25) for shipping is outrageous. I paid much less than that for items weighing considerably more when I ordered beer from Belgium and books from UK shops. That shipping charge appears to be highly inflated... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

BTW, would you share the direct mailing addresses for the head of the US & EU UBISoft marketing groups? I'd like to send a personal letter to them concerning this issue. Thank you.

Alahmnat
08-07-2005, 05:21 AM
I don't know anybody in marketing, I just know how they work by observation.

And the 25 shipping is likely because it's being shipped 48-hour FEDEX, which ain't cheap. Unfortunately, there's not many shipping options on the Ubi store.

LordTulla
08-07-2005, 05:44 AM
Thanks again. Yes, there is only one shipping method offered on the EU website. Also I just saw a comment on "The LYST" stating that the overall cost for a US customer who might want the EU CE would also include a 16 VAT charge. So, US MYST fans would be paying 75.99 (34.99+25+16) [$135.23 US] for the CE... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

TwistedEndZ
08-07-2005, 05:48 AM
I'm with you all the way LordTulla. I want the extra goodies too. I too was able to get Myst IV LE and with Myst V I want the FULL package!

Question, I preordered Myst V yestereday at EB Games (Canada) and they have no listing of a LE and said it was priced at $54.99. Are all first come copies of Myst V the Limited Edition like Myst IV was?

LordTulla
08-07-2005, 06:15 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by TwistedEndZ:
I'm with you all the way LordTulla. I want the extra goodies too. I too was able to get Myst IV LE and with Myst V I want the FULL package!
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>Yes, but so far the "movement" consists of 2 people - hardly sufficient to get UBI's attention.

If what you ordered looks the this MYST V LE (http://store.ubi.com/item.jsp?item=69252) then you have the LE.

Mowog
08-07-2005, 07:03 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Also I just saw a comment on "The LYST" stating that the overall cost for a US customer who might want the EU CE would also include a 16 VAT charge. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Hmmm... I thought that the VAT only applied to purchases within the UK. I've ordered car parts for my MG from the MG Owner's Club near Cambridge, had them shipped to the USA, and the VAT didn't apply.

JustBrett
08-07-2005, 10:09 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LordTulla:
Also I just saw a comment on "The LYST" stating that the overall cost for a US customer who might want the EU CE would also include a 16 VAT charge. So, US MYST fans would be paying 75.99 (34.99+25+16) [$135.23 US] for the CE... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I ordered the EU CE a couple of days ago, and the VAT was 8.93, not 16. The total was 68.92 ($122.58 US).

The invoice is a little odd, though. It lists TOTAL 59.99 in bold, and then lists the VAT below that as "Including VAT 8.93" in italics, but does not give a total including VAT. I guess I'll have to wait for it to show on my bank statement before I know if I'm really being charged the VAT or not.

cathyk
08-08-2005, 08:43 AM
On the question of VAT (for non-European members), VAT is automatically included in the total and sometimes invoices will show the VAT amount separately. Same goes for advertised retail prices: the advertised price is the total including VAT.

This is the opposite practice to the States where the advertised price is shown before sales tax.

But as the game is being shipped outside Europe, you shouldn't be charged VAT for it. Although you would then be charged import duty on receipt in the States. If you are charged import duty, I would suggest that if you have also paid VAT for the game, present your invoice as proof so that you're not double charged.

Heimdall_G
08-08-2005, 09:50 AM
Here's some Ubi info, in English:

-- Ubisoft Group home page (http://www.ubisoftgroup.com/Home/Default.aspx?cpid=37)
-- Corporate facts (http://www.ubisoftgroup.com/AboutUbisoft/Default.aspx?cpid=181)
-- Group worldwide office addresses and phone numbers (http://www.ubisoftgroup.com/AboutUbisoft/Default.aspx?cpid=756)
-- Group worldwide press contacts, with names and Email addresses (http://www.ubisoftgroup.com/MediaCenter/Default.aspx?cpid=32)

If you feel strongly enough about the differences between US and UK marketing practices, you can call the appropriate country's office and ask for Marketing. Or, you can send an Email to a press contact and ask that it be forwarded to Marketing.

TwistedEndZ
08-12-2005, 03:22 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LordTulla:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by TwistedEndZ:
I'm with you all the way LordTulla. I want the extra goodies too. I too was able to get Myst IV LE and with Myst V I want the FULL package!
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>Yes, but so far the "movement" consists of 2 people - hardly sufficient to get UBI's attention.

If what you ordered looks the this MYST V LE (http://store.ubi.com/item.jsp?item=69252) then you have the LE. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks for the link. I'm going to drop by EB Games and see if I can take a look at their screen and see which box its showing. I'm almost 100% certain its the normal editon as $54.99 cad is to cheap for the Limited Edition. Would be nice to get it at that price though.

Qalthos
09-01-2005, 09:56 AM
http://www.mystvgame.com/us/

click on "limited edition preview"

I believe that that contains all that our UK friends are getting? I am now thoroughly confused, but happy if this goes through

Edit: even more confused now, as the link goes to the UK collector's edition, yet the Myst V site is clearly US and shows the Limited Edition.

salgene
09-01-2005, 10:25 AM
also something else that is kinda confusing. If you go to the newly redone Myst 5 website it shows a exclusive preview of the limited edition.
Which has everything that the collectors edition has. well according to the sites. If they are going to have completely different packages and advertise only 1 on thier main site for the game. then something is really messed up.

larsschermer
09-01-2005, 10:27 AM
the EU (UK etc)collectors edition is themed like the revelation collectors edition. Wich blew BIG TIME. it featured "exlusive making of" and soundtrack. I got the making of clips (yes they vere clips NOT even a big "exlusive" file) and the so called soundtrack was just 9! stinking mp3's uposed to the 25!!! tracks on the real soundtrack, furthermore we (in Europe) cant even get the soundtrack CD since UBI wont ship outside US http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif . You in the US at least get a seperate CD soundtrack. There were NO upsides to the collectors edition of Revelation, and i dont think there will be for end of ages either!

larsschermer
09-01-2005, 10:44 AM
ok LordTulla, you realy hit a nerve http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
let me itterate the contents of the REVELATION collectors edition.
25 minutes of making of
interviev with Jack wall
interwiev with Rand miller
Card game
Soundtrack.
Now let me tell you what you really got
the 5 Mpegs that vere featured on the revelation site (if you compleatd the puzzles) in a higher resulution (witch were featured elsewhere online too) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif
the interview vere part of the making off's....
the sound track was 9! mp3s oposed to the 25 tracks on the CD soundtrack http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif NOT even featuring peter Gabriel and further more EU citisen cant get the CD soundtrack since its not sold or shiped here. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif
the card game only had 32 cards!

So i´ll trade you my MystV collectos edtion for your US collectors version anyday.

Kallikanzaroi
09-01-2005, 01:39 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by larsschermer:
the sound track was 9! mp3s oposed to the 25 tracks on the CD soundtrack http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif NOT even featuring peter Gabriel and further more EU citisen cant get the CD soundtrack since its not sold or shiped here. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

i'm with you on this. i extruded the peter gabriel tracks directly from the dvd using a shareware-application.

My Revelation CE was bought in an ordinary store. Perhaps the MystV CE also will be buyable (is that a word?) at european internetstores and american Mystfans can order from them (with cheaper shipping than Ubi can offer).

LordAkira110
09-01-2005, 04:03 PM
As an aside, people in the US can order the European Collectors Edition from the EU UbiSoft store online (shop.ubi.com, as opposed to store.ubi.com), but international orders incur a 25 shipping charge.


Beh Thats EXACTLY why there doing it. Cause I bet theres going to be people crazy/Fanatical enough to buy both so they can have everyhting.
Just like how many times have I bought Star Wars!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

Tora_Neko
09-01-2005, 04:19 PM
If I'd been able to I'd have gone for the UK edition anyday! But considering my parents chose to pay for the US limited edition for me as a present (man was that cool of them! It cost almost $65, even with the free 2 day shipping Ubi offered) I couldn't exactly go "Hey can I get that UK edition shipped over for upwards of a hundred dollars?"

But I looked at both, and I wish I could trade. I love the way the UK's collecters edition box looks (that's really good marketing on their end), and I'm one of those people who don't just want to play the game, or watch the movie, but also want to get all the facts! I want to see the making of, read the collecters booklet, see all the concept art, hear interviews with the acters/creaters/etc, watch the trailors and commercials over and over and over, and generally annoy my brother when all he wants to do is play the game or watch the movie ("Why on earth do you want all that stuff? Its boring!" "Its not boring, its interesting! I know more about it than you do, even if you are better at playing video games than I am!"). So I am one of us US fans who would love to get their hands on the UK version. Actually, I'd love to trade the strategy guide that comes with mine for the collecters booklet that comes with the UK version, but I have no idea how to go about that even if I found someone willing...

larsschermer
09-01-2005, 04:47 PM
yeah the D'ni grammar book and and concept gallery is great. BUT if this edition is anything like the REVELATION CE. it will most likly be a PDF and the 9 or so, concept JPEG's you can find online http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

I just took a look at the EU EoA CE, it features a DVD with the making of and soundtrack...on the same DVD...hmm

Dont get me wrong I love concept art and im getting the CE because of it BUT...
I just want the da.. soundtrack on a seperateCD! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

salgene
09-01-2005, 08:43 PM
either way it's stupid to have it this way. I ordered based on what I saw on the myst 5 website. If I don't get what I preordered then I'll just send it back and go buy the plain DVD version.
its alot cheaper in the long run. Basicly if I don't get whats advertised on the myst 5 website. I might aswell cancel my preorder and wait till it comes out in store. I'll have to wait alittle longer, but I'll be getting preaty much the same thing and a tad cheaper.
Also if ubi is going to create a website then they need to put it on the website that there are different LE versions of myst 5.

CountJabberwock
09-03-2005, 09:49 AM
I'm from Germany and I bought the Myst 4 CE because I wanted the soundtrack. And what did I get? A "3-track mp3 soundtrack" on DVD! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

The serperate CD was not published in Europe and Ubi didn't ship outside the U.S. I bought my Myst 4 soundtrack as an Import CD at http://www.synsoniq.de - but I had to pay a lot of money.

Now to Myst 5... The Soundtrack is already part of the US Collector's Edition and I'm sure it won't be publish seperate as it was done with Myst 4. So no chance to get this soundtrack except ordering the US Collector's Edition...BUT US Ubi won't ship to Europe! Arrrr!!!

Is there no way for us to get the US Collector's Edition? Perhaps with a little support of US Myst fans... Maybe someone could order the Collectors Box and then ship to us when it arrives. Payment could be made with PayPal for example. That would be great! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Boyue65
09-03-2005, 09:08 PM
Heck, relax guys. If it's that big a deal, I'll drive the hour and visit Rand, find out what's going on here.

larsschermer
09-04-2005, 04:20 AM
Well ill live, but really if you were told you would get a soundtrack and got a 9 Mp3's and NO way of actually getting the soundtrack, wouldn€t you take it kind of personal? I mean
"Hey lets make a restriction that cuts off all our European customers, and then lets tell them how great the soundtrack is... that€ll be fun http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif "
for me its not a question of the collectors edition, i can live with them being different country to country. But like I stated earlier: I JUST WANT THE DA.. SOUNDTRACK CD!
You€d think the soundtrack had advanced decrypting software on it, or something. I have never had this much trouble getting product before (and i have some pretty impressive antique books)

Alahmnat
09-04-2005, 12:51 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by larsschermer:
yeah the D'ni grammar book and and concept gallery is great. BUT if this edition is anything like the REVELATION CE. it will most likly be a PDF and the 9 or so, concept JPEG's you can find online http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Actually the whole thing is a printed booklet from all the information I've been able to gather, which appears, from the packaging pictures, to be attached to the "book" box. I could be wrong though.

As to the official site listing the wrong goodies for the US LE, I've raised the issue with Ubi, and hopefully they'll fix it soon.

I'm also still waiting to hear back on whether the full soundtrack is included in the European CE's bonus DVD.

larsschermer
09-04-2005, 04:35 PM
Thanks Alahmnat http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
well the UBI site lists the contents of the bonus DVD and it includes:
# 25 minutes Making-of
# Game soundtrack
# Game trailers
and looks like this: http://shop.gameplay.co.uk/images/products/RM02352_2_lq.jpg

so it looks like we wont get a soundtrack CD this time either. I just hope at least it will feature ALL the tracks this time.

CountJabberwock
09-05-2005, 02:17 PM
Now you can preorder the US Collector's Edition at Amazon.com - but again: NO SHIPPING TO EUROPE! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

There must be a way to get this Collectors Edition.

larsschermer
09-05-2005, 04:04 PM
actually if you got to the US site it now features the contents like the EU edition. the soundtrack and making of on DVD ann the game on one DVD aswell. what the h.. is going on? Can someone confirm the contents of the Two collectors editions?

Leehrat21
09-05-2005, 09:18 PM
Yes please do, I am from the U.S and I plan on buying the Limited Edition, but I wanna know what I'm getting...

Alahmnat
09-10-2005, 02:07 AM
The official site lists the wrong goodie package for the US LE. This has been brought to Ubi's attention and is being addressed by the web department.

And, for the heck of it, I'll mention a third time in one night that Katie has confirmed that both the US LE and the EU CE will have the full soundtrack. The EU version is likely to be in mp3 format since it's on the bonus DVD, but it *is* the whole thing.

larsschermer
09-10-2005, 06:20 AM
Thanks Alahmnat, that is good news. But now those of us that actually have the other CD's wont be able to complete our collection. As much as its good news that we will actually get the full soundtrack. I for one still want the bleeding CD jewelcase complete with art work and High quality sound.
I€m NOT sticking some RW CD in with an otherwise beautiful CD collection.

Can omeone please ask UBI if they plan to
release the soundtrack CD! in the EU aswell?

cathyk
09-10-2005, 12:04 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alahmnat:
The official site lists the wrong goodie package for the US LE. This has been brought to Ubi's attention and is being addressed by the web department.

And, for the heck of it, I'll mention a third time in one night that Katie has confirmed that both the US LE and the EU CE will have the full soundtrack. The EU version is likely to be in mp3 format since it's on the bonus DVD, but it *is* the whole thing. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's terrific news! Thanks Al!

Naquiel
09-10-2005, 12:20 PM
Well out of all the goodies the EU version will have i really ony want the d'ni Grammer book. And if the US version dont have it, i would ask the mods to at least sent a message to Rand to plead with him to have the d'ni grammer/dictionary added to the last book or to have it as a seperate book that we can buy here in the US.

But if someone wants to be sneeky they could always find a way to put what is in the grammer book on the web.

gnorke
09-11-2005, 11:23 AM
Hi Naquiel,
If you go to WWW.geocities.com/tayganyavo/ipde/, they have a D'ni encyclopedia which contains a dictionary. You will also have to download some fonts to use with encyclopedia. It's all free.

GadrenURU
09-11-2005, 12:51 PM
gnorke, having a D'ni dictionary at all isn't the issue (and there are other online dictionaries that are more accurate than the IPDE), what matters is that the dictionary in the CE will likely have new information that we've never seen before.

larsschermer
09-11-2005, 03:04 PM
If there is any new information I€ll gladly share it with you all, complete with pictures (to the extend the copyright will allow)

tmaster150
09-13-2005, 06:36 PM
Bad rumors, guys... On Uru Obsession, I heard someone say the Bonus DVD only contains nine mp3 tracks... But a community assistant here (Alahmnat?) told us both special editions would get the same tracks... So it looks like we'll only get a slight bit of music along with our special version.

No warranties made, I'll try remembering to post it once I get them delivered. A confirmation in the mean time from a Ubi person would be nice, though.

JustBrett
09-13-2005, 08:08 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tmaster150:
No warranties made, I'll try remembering to post it once I get them delivered. A confirmation in the mean time from a Ubi person would be nice, though. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I'm not a Ubi person, but I received the Euro CE today. There are seven mp3 tracks in the music folder on the bonus DVD, as follows:

Arena Reveal.mp3
Beginnings_Esher.mp3
Beginnings_Yeesha.mp3
Finale.mp3
Time Machine.mp3
Todelmer.mp3
Villa.mp3

The total is about 25 minutes of music. Finale.mp3 is a bit over 10 minutes, and the rest run anywhere from 1 to 4 minutes each.

(Now if only I could read the GAME DVD, so I could intall the bugger!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif)

freezemrw
09-20-2005, 12:47 PM
Hi, sorry if this is a stupid question but where did you order your European CE?

I wasn't able to find it in the german part of the UBI shop and the link from the first post doesn't seem to work either.

So what's a reliable source to order the CE from germany?

thx

freezemrw

Mr Zebe D
09-20-2005, 01:01 PM
Is there a http://www.amazon.de? I wouldn't think that there are many CEs left now though.

freezemrw
09-20-2005, 01:21 PM
Hmm...actually amazon.de doesn't seem to have it. Myst 4 CE was also buyable at stores here in Germany. Anyway I now ordered the CE from the UK. That should be the same version, right? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Thx for the quick reply

LordTulla
09-20-2005, 04:22 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LordTulla:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I'm not a Ubi person, but I received the Euro CE today. There are seven mp3 tracks in the music folder on the bonus DVD... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Only seven? I would have thought that there would be more. The US LE bonus DVD contents are advertised as follows, "The original game soundtrack transports fans to the ambient worlds of Myst whenever and wherever they like."

To me, "the original game soundtrack" should include ALL the game soundtracks. And based on the other MYST series game soundtrack CDs, there are several more than 7 sound files. I sure hope this isn't some kind of advertising "Gotcha!" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

gnorke
09-21-2005, 02:42 PM
I just received the LE Edition/US and the CD contains 17 tracks. Almost an hour of music.

Desideriumrex
09-21-2005, 02:56 PM
Well, there's my answer. When I preordered the US Collector's Edition it was when the website erroneously listed the contents of the EU Collector's Edition. It would've been nice if they had sent out an e-mail to everyone who preordered when they learned of the error, because that error was the reason my fiance and I ordered the CE and we learned about the error upon gleefully tearing open our fedex box, tearing open our myst v CE box, and trying to figure where our book was and why it wasn't shown on the box, either. Not happy at all right now. Not happy at all.

larsschermer
09-21-2005, 05:24 PM
that bites http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif . I sympathize I really really do...at least you got the CD soundtrack. what other goodies did you get? I heard something about a frameable lithograph (is it really spelled that way?)

gnorke
09-22-2005, 07:15 AM
Beside the sound track CD, I got the lithograph, a DVD with making of Myst V, and the Prima guide. The only trouble with the Prima guide, it is about a third of the normal size book. The print is small and you almost need a magnifying glass to read it. Other than that I am very happy with it. Been waiting long enough.I am glad it is finally here. Now to play.

LordTulla
09-23-2005, 05:14 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by gnorke: ... The only trouble with the Prima guide, it is about a third of the normal size book. The print is small and you almost need a magnifying glass to read it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Yes, I have to agree that I feel that "guide" is substandard. Nothing it the LE advertising stated, or suggested, that the guide would not be the same as the one sold outside the LE (full-sized). <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">The official strategy guide helps new and old explorers progress through this final adventure.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>Had it been truthfully advertised I would have no gripe. But, I believe any mention of it not being full-sized was an intentional advertising "oversight"... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

AdamJohnso
09-25-2005, 10:06 PM
M http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif y only complaint about the US LE is that the "keep sake art" it a peice of ****. It looks like it had been pulled out of a cow's butt. The art depicted is NOWHERE in the game, it looks like three stained glass windows on a white background http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif . Otherwise, Soundtrack: GREAT, it must be worth about $15 and the guide ~$10 so that make the LE a good deal (Gametap video is ok). However, I conclude the the US LE is not a good offer. Perhaps if they throw in the D'ni Grammer Dictionary and etc, I'll be happy. UBI Soft should think about selling that separately. I would buy it.

LordTulla
09-26-2005, 03:50 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by AdamJohnso:
M http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif y only complaint about the US LE is that the "keep sake art" ... The art depicted is NOWHERE in the game... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Regardless of one's personal opinion on the lithograph's quality, the pictures shown ARE in the game. Look in Laki'ahn inside the trader's hut... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Alahmnat
09-26-2005, 04:17 AM
With regards to the European CE soundtrack incompleteness (something I was equally dismayed about after receiving my copy), the information passed to the Community Managers was apparently incorrect, or misinterpreted, or someone in Europe has a different concept of "complete" than the rest of the world.

The good news, which I will be putting in the FAQ as well, is that Cyan will be selling the complete soundtrack separately at some point in the near future. Once they get their shipment in, they'll be announcing a release date.

MagooChris
09-26-2005, 05:40 AM
I love all this complaining http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Sorry guy's but you are all saying that you want the UK collectors coz it's better...

Here's what I have. I have a nice case with a book like cover, two DVD€s in their own slim cases. The Game has its own instruction book (that is then duplicated in the other book). The second DVD is a DVD movie disk with 7 mp3 tracks in a folder. The Movie disk contains the 22 min making of that the US have, a trailer that can be found on the net and a small making of that trailer. Plus the abilities to listen to the 7 song soundtrack.

A note about the soundtrack. This is using the same engine as Uru. The sound files are in the sfx folder of the install location, all as OGG files. Get them and convert them into your own soundtrack, that's what I did with Uru and I will do the same with EoA!

This book that everyone has been wanting is not attached but a small book of it's own called the "Lost Chapters". it is 152 pages long (if you include the 4 pages of the cover). Page 1 is the index, page 2 an introduction and page 3 a Letter written from Rand in D'ni. The D'ni Language Guide is from pages 6-25 and as I have stated else where the Symbols are flawed. Next we have the Myst Saga Overview, p. 28-43. Each of the 4 titles have half a page of an overview and the rest pictures of from each game (uru not covered). From pages 46-53 we have a page dedicated to each character from the games with their name (eng and D'ni) a picture and a small paragraph. 56-89 we have the gallery of End of Ages pictures. 92-95 is the long awaited Book of Marrim preview. 98 a Warning and visit the website for more. 99-115 the repeated manual, this time in colour. And then the rest of the pages are filled with blank pages for your own notes.

Is that all really worth the complaining?? I had to pay $109AU for this. Really, it's not worth the hassle. The standard edition was $99 anyway, so the book and DVD are worth $10AU!! wow!

AdamJohnso
09-26-2005, 08:32 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Regardless of one's personal opinion on the lithograph's quality, the pictures shown ARE in the game. Look in Laki'ahn inside the trader's hut... Wink2 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Okay, I'll make a trip back to Laki'ahn. But it still looks ugly on the white background :P.

EDIT: I will buy someone's D'ni Booklet!!!!

ivanxuereb
09-27-2005, 12:50 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by AdamJohnso:
EDIT: I will buy someone's D'ni Booklet!!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Well you aren't getting mine http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

AdamJohnso
09-27-2005, 10:02 AM
junk http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

cathyk
09-27-2005, 10:56 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alahmnat:
With regards to the European CE soundtrack incompleteness (something I was equally dismayed about after receiving my copy), the information passed to the Community Managers was apparently incorrect, or misinterpreted, or someone in Europe has a different concept of "complete" than the rest of the world.

The good news, which I will be putting in the FAQ as well, is that Cyan will be selling the complete soundtrack separately at some point in the near future. Once they get their shipment in, they'll be announcing a release date. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Fingers crossed that those of us not in the US or Canada will be able to buy it - unlike the Myst IV soundtrack. Could you please point that out to them, Alahmnat? Thanks!

larsschermer
09-27-2005, 11:38 AM
I can confirm Alahmnat's statement. I got this from Tim Larkin on the 6th september.
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As far as I know, there will be a limieted edition released in Europe with the entire soundtrack. I'm not positive, but I think so. If not, Cyan will be releasing the sountrack independently.
Regards,
Tim
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oh and the book is great, BUT it dosent contain anything new exept the book of Marim preview. no where near ALL the Yeesha glyphs are represented . we still dont know the 3rd person in D'ni is. (i hope you know who i mean. The one some think is Kardish in the UrU glyphs) all the pictures in the book are recycled ones that have been on the web for AGEs http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif D'ni dictionary is good but flawed and very very short. and im not going to get into the soundtrack thing. so all things considred i think the SE's are pretty equal.

themilkybarkid_
09-30-2005, 10:12 PM
Question about availability. Can I purchase the LE at a store such as EB, or is it only available online. I have a friend flying down to L.A. next week and she could save me the shipping and CA taxes.