View Full Version : Complex Engine Management a staple?

03-03-2005, 08:25 AM
After two years of shying away from CEM I recently decided to take the plunge and start flying with it on. I got a hold of the CEM guide at airwarfare and it explained the concept very well.
In flight testing and aerobatics I manage to stay on top of proppitch for the constant speed prop planes i.e. p40. For the LW planes I set autoprop.
But when I try to fight with CEM enabled in my p40 I always end up eating dirt fast! I never burn out the motor, it just that the extra workload gives me tunnel vision where I become obsessed with keeping the RPM's in the power band. Also in the likes of the LA7 the rev counter is hidden behind the flight stick http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

So I'd like to know if most pilots out there are using CEM or do the majority of people just use the more simplfied engine model.

I think I'll keep trying to fly and fight with CEM but I just wondered if I'm putting myself under to much pressure, I feel like a bit of a wimp going back you see http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif

03-03-2005, 08:35 AM
you care to much !
run the propeller setting (actual the rpm setting http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif ) at max , 100% - nothing will happen.
just if you want land, reducethe propeller to loose better the speed.

just manage the throttle and cooler (i leave it open most times till in an emergency when im needing every km/h http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif ).

you havent to care about charger (only one gear) and mixture (not possible in game at P-40., IIRC )

03-03-2005, 08:45 AM
One of my professors in college taught us - KISS (Keep it simple stupid). Great advice!

Welcome to the world of CEM (and shame on you for not always enabling this game feature http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif).

Context is important with CEM. Firstly, is it a short flight distance in an intense dogfigt server, or is it a much longer ride in a campaign (or scripted df server).

In many situations leaving prop pitch at 100% for auto prop planes (i.e., most Allied planes) and opening up your rads works just fine.

In a campaign with a longer flight I would usually throttle back and often prop pitch down a little (with rads wide open).

In a German plane manual control of the prop pitch is much more important, and yet even then you are only adjusting when the need arises - climb, cruise, boom, zoom.

With regards to rads, I personally keep them open all the time unless I need the additional speed (drag is different depending on the aircraft, speed and altitude).

Anyway, enjoy CEM just remember it doesn't result in kills, but if you have all the other important aspects down it will certainly give you that slight edge over your bandit.


03-03-2005, 08:50 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TacticalYak3:
..................In a German plane manual control of the prop pitch is much more important, and yet even then you are only adjusting when the need arises - climb, cruise, boom, zoom.

.................. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

as it not should be http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
but thats an already very dead horse http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

btw, handling ConstantSpeedPropeller equipted planes :
while cruising , it set the propeller 10% higher than the throttle. just a personal rule. in combat , propeller always 100% - never touch it than

and the few palnes that overrev in game , will overrev if you set your proppler down ore not - speed difference is small.
for example both FIATS

03-03-2005, 08:56 AM
Like you, I recently started using CEM after an initial six months flying without. (I should mention that I fly RAF/USAAF planes most of the time - VVS once in awhile.) You'll find that it will become second nature before too long, and I have found that there is less to it than I expected - pretty much as Frankyboy said.

I do however reduce RPMs while cruising to keep my engine cooler. To my ears running at 90-95% pitch/RPM setting makes the engine sound a lot more pleasant, too.

Overall CEM has made the flying experience more enjoyable for me because I feel like I'm really in control of all the aspects my a/c - i.e. more immersion. CEM has also given me an appreciation for the fully automatic a/c like late model Spitfires. I can only imagine how the pilots felt.

03-03-2005, 11:14 AM
the most "complikiatet " planes are the soviet ones.
you have to look about supercharger gear and mixture settings.

03-03-2005, 11:26 AM
Keep it simple. Leave your Radiator flaps open and let the engine breath until you need the extra acceleration in a dive or zoom climb. At that point I'll close them or drop to 2-4 on the rad flaps. Superchargers and mix will depend on the plane type ans specs.

03-03-2005, 11:28 AM
this stuff is a no brainer guys cmon.

03-03-2005, 05:47 PM
Thanks for the suggestions everyone. I think the most helpfull thing was realising i didn't have to worry over the prop-pitch every second i was in the air.
I decided to take the p40 out to New Guinea and managed to score 3 kills (one of the kills was a super-jammy shot from 600m)and a smoker! I think the Japanese pilots must have been a little more inexperienced than the German pilots i'd previously encountered/been killed by.

03-03-2005, 08:32 PM
LOL, I remember transitioning from il2 to fb. I actually had a hard time staying slow enough to keep in formation with the other lagg's http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif.