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Celeon999
07-09-2005, 06:42 AM
Ive just compared the Directors Cut of "Das Boot" with the original 5 hours Mini Series DVD.

And from my point of view : ....the winner is .....

The Mini Series DVD ! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Although it hasnt got the great 5.1 sound with the new made sound effects and isnt digital remastered it is in all other ways better.

Its unbelievable how many scenes were cut in this so called "Directors cut" to fit it into cinema movie length. And some really! good ones i can tell ya ! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

The bad thing is that both Versions have the same english dubbing which is really bad. Nearly 50 % of all dialogues have been changed.

Dont ask me why !

Ok , many things are impossible to translate but even things which can be easily 100 % translated have been changed to free them of explicit language, sexual stuff and even to make them "political correct". http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

They even erased the farting sounds in the english dubbing ! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

The english subtitles from the Mini Series DVD are by faaaaaar better than those from the Directors Cut. The translators did a really good job there and managed to translate the most things very accurate.

What do you think ?

Celeon999
07-09-2005, 06:42 AM
Ive just compared the Directors Cut of "Das Boot" with the original 5 hours Mini Series DVD.

And from my point of view : ....the winner is .....

The Mini Series DVD ! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Although it hasnt got the great 5.1 sound with the new made sound effects and isnt digital remastered it is in all other ways better.

Its unbelievable how many scenes were cut in this so called "Directors cut" to fit it into cinema movie length. And some really! good ones i can tell ya ! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

The bad thing is that both Versions have the same english dubbing which is really bad. Nearly 50 % of all dialogues have been changed.

Dont ask me why !

Ok , many things are impossible to translate but even things which can be easily 100 % translated have been changed to free them of explicit language, sexual stuff and even to make them "political correct". http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

They even erased the farting sounds in the english dubbing ! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

The english subtitles from the Mini Series DVD are by faaaaaar better than those from the Directors Cut. The translators did a really good job there and managed to translate the most things very accurate.

What do you think ?

Ackwell
07-09-2005, 06:58 AM
Well, I have the mini series DVD you can buy from Europe that is called "Das Boot - The original uncut version". Length 5 hours with original German 5.1 soundtrack digitally remastered (English one included, but hey... get real!). I don't know what scheisse they sell where you live but that version really rocks. You should buy your movies from Europe! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

stinkhammer6
07-09-2005, 07:24 AM
Regardless of any verson of Das DUD, it still is boring and dull, if you find it entertaining and can somehow magically improve your scores on SH3 by watching the flick then I have an island off the coast of SF California Ill sell you, over 1000 rooms, full kitchen and a yard, totally beach front property.

Ackwell
07-09-2005, 07:42 AM
It's "based on a true story" and u-boat war was actually very boring and dull. What are you waiting to see? A movie full of Hollywood type action like on U-571? There is difference between historically accurate movies and most Hollywood movies http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Olebass
07-09-2005, 07:59 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stinkhammer6:
Regardless of any verson of Das DUD, it still is boring and dull, if you find it entertaining and can somehow magically improve your scores on SH3 by watching the flick then I have an island off the coast of SF California Ill sell you, over 1000 rooms, full kitchen and a yard, totally beach front property. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Still at it I see...

Celeon999
07-09-2005, 08:04 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">You should buy your movies from Europe! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ive buyed it from Amazon.de here in Germany. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Its the same one you have. (have both Versions) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

jooo9
07-09-2005, 09:44 AM
Stink, why do you always have to be in a rotty mood?

GT182
07-09-2005, 10:31 AM
Yeah Stink, you certainly do know how to p** off people. Get a life and cut the sarcasm will ya. I can be nasty and delete your cr*p if you want it that way. Notice I haven't yet but can.

legodragonxp
07-09-2005, 10:51 AM
Just curious, I rented the 'Directors cut' and it was well over five hours long. How much more is there in the 5-part mini-series?

Celeon999
07-09-2005, 11:03 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Just curious, I rented the 'Directors cut' and it was well over five hours long. How much more is there in the 5-part mini-series? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Can you post a picture of your DVD here ?

I just want to see if there is another Version around which i dont know yet.

My Directors Cut is only 3 1/2 half hours

blue_76
07-09-2005, 12:20 PM
indeed the 5 hr version has more scenes, but in terms of theatrical realism, the director's cut is a superb piece of work. opinion will greatly vary depending on the type of setup. if you have a nice 5.1 setup at home, you'll appreciate those features more. i'd recommend the director's cut to anyone who has a good setup and is looking for more action sequences.. the 5 hr version is for true fans who want to know every detail of the story or for those who have ordinary tv.

Ackwell
07-09-2005, 01:32 PM
Yeah, the sonar and depth charge effect is unbelievable with 5.1! And the sub(woofer) really kicks the diesel sounds in! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

CannonFodda_99
07-09-2005, 07:17 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stinkhammer6:
Regardless of any verson of Das DUD, it still is boring and dull, if you find it entertaining and can somehow magically improve your scores on SH3 by watching the flick then I have an island off the coast of SF California Ill sell you, over 1000 rooms, full kitchen and a yard, totally beach front property. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Definitly a first person shooter player... Hey i can take 5 bullets and still run like nothings happened!!!

Dude, thats what sub warfare was like. I remember someone saying about war "hours of boredom and a few seconds of terror" or similar.

Enough contiversial comments, back on topic, all das boot versions are good, although ive only seen it on TV once http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif cant beat it.
Cannon

legodragonxp
07-09-2005, 08:36 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Celeon999:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Just curious, I rented the 'Directors cut' and it was well over five hours long. How much more is there in the 5-part mini-series? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Can you post a picture of your DVD here ?

I just want to see if there is another Version around which i dont know yet.

My Directors Cut is only 3 1/2 half hours </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I've returned it, but the box was the same cover as the 'directors cut' box you'd see on Amazon.com. The DVD was double-sided on a single disc. I had started watching it at 7:30 one night, skipped the majority of the bar scene (thomson was throwing up on himself), and had to turn it off at midnight partway through the air-raid (bomb hit just aft of the conning tower). Had it been the 209 minute version I should have been done with the whole movie by 11:00 easy.

This is odd, I want to order my own copy, but I want the full five hours. Maybe I can confirm something. Can you name a scen in the five hour version that wouldn't be in the 3.5 hour version?

-Lego

Teabagga7
07-09-2005, 09:24 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Regardless of any verson of Das DUD, it still is boring and dull, </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


yeah, they probably should have included more 'dodge the American archeologist tied to the periscope' scenes.

quillan
07-09-2005, 10:53 PM
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0001XAOLQ.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

This is the version I have, which I bought from Amazon.com. It has German and English audio tracks, both with the original stereo remastered and with a new 5.1 version created from the original tracks, and English/French subtitles. I cannot tell you specifically what the differences are between this version and the other long versions, though.

Celeon999
07-10-2005, 02:41 AM
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/8558/b00067r3fc03lzzzzzzz1ua.jpg

This is the Mini Series DVD i have.

2 discs instead of a double sided one.
282 minutes

It reads that it is digitally remastered but the screen quality is exactly the same like the TV Version is saw as a kid. (That means good quality)

The sound effects are the original ones from TV not that from the Directors Cut! (depth charges, hull creaking)

They are not sooo good but quite ok. The most budget of the movie was used for creating the sub model so there was not much left for making great sound effects.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> This is odd, I want to order my own copy, but I want the full five hours. Maybe I can confirm something. Can you name a scen in the five hour version that wouldn't be in the 3.5 hour version? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes here are some scenes that are missing in my Director Cut :

1. The first time U96 got attacked by an airplane shortly after leaving La Rochelle is completely missing.

2. Several dialogue scenes between the crew were cut. One of these is the scene in which the captian goes into the machine room to speak with Johann about the U-boat Aces and heroism.

3. All monologues of Leutnant Werner throughout the entire movie were cut !

4. The scene in which you can see the radio men growing a plant in the radio room is missing.

5. The scene in which the watch crew gets prepared for their shift in the morning is missing. They make fun out of the captian and his nazi girlfriend he has back home.

6. Some scene on the ship in La Spezia have been cut. Like the one in which the Number 2 describes the men from the ship what it is like to be waterbombed.

7. The scene in which Werner talks privatly with the Nazi Number One is missing.
The Number One tells him that he recieved word that most of his family has been killed in allied bombing raids.

These are only some of the missing scenes. There are some more which i dont remember.

DiveDevil
07-10-2005, 07:40 AM
I thought the five hour uncut version was more involving with the characters and I liked that. After watching the five hour version the directors cuts seems to lack the depth and I feel like I'm missing something;although I still watch it cause it kicks butt. Seriously how could any fan of this SHIII not love Das Boot, the game was clearly modeled after the movie in alot of ways. I rented the 5 hour version once and then rushed out to buy what I thought was "that" directors cut but got the theater length instead http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif I watch this movie at least twice a week, my girlfriend hate it but whatever, I have to watch her drivel all the time.

TooFastForLove.
07-10-2005, 11:19 AM
I'm planning on purchasing my own copy soon. So let me first see if I understand correctly.

The full length uncut version is the longest and most complete version but lacks the remastered sound effects?

Directors cut (which I've seen before) is somewhat shortened but is digitally remasterd?

If thats the case I think I would have to go for number 2.

Celeon999
07-10-2005, 11:24 AM
Im not sure at this point.

Maybe there is also an 5 hour version around that HAS the new sound effects.

The green mini series DVD you see above. Has also 5.1 but its not nearly so good as the 5.1 the directors cut uses.

The screen quality is in both version very good. Maybe its a bit cleaner in the Directors Cut. Not sure

stinkhammer6
07-10-2005, 12:39 PM
If you like the flick then fine, thats up to you, but dont make a flick out to be more than what it is. The only sub flick that dont have crappy dialog is red october, modern yes, but still a sub flick. And surely the regs in here know I cant stand das boot, not in any way shape or form, regardless of how old it is and spectacular as some said for its time. I can go on and on about the film, as well as others would go on about other sub films I could mention but it would only be in retaliation for my statements, and thats a fact. If you own das boot, you own red october, u571, etc etc just because they are sub films. And this whole "if you are a true sub fan" thing goes, you own them all regardless if you talk smack about them and you know it, a true "sub fan" would. I own about 25 ww2 movies not including sub flicks, about 4 nam flicks, and 2 ww1 flicks. A fan of war I am, dont like my opinion, oh well, freedom of speech. Oh and you are being moderated, and you know who you are http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

Baletzan
07-11-2005, 03:16 AM
Stink strikes again http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif
There's nothing wrong with you not liking the film. It's just the way you say it, erm type it, whatever.
You have stated many times before that you don't like Das Boot, and that's fine. But this is a friendly thread and you don't need to come here and flame the others for liking the film, I agree about the "true sub fan" thing since it's a bit over the top, to each with his own. You don't seem to understand that people feel offended because you burst in and say that the movie sucks, besides in every post you make you seem to be on a very bad mood. Overall cheer up man.

Back to topic, I haven't noticed any difference regarding sound between the directors cut and the 5 hour version I have (the same as quillan)
And Celeon, I think of 1 scene that is missing from your version, the one with the captain on the conning tower spinning on the periscope and humming, one of the funniest scenes of the film.

Celeon999
07-11-2005, 05:38 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">And Celeon, I think of 1 scene that is missing from your version, the one with the captain on the conning tower spinning on the periscope and humming, one of the funniest scenes of the film. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh its actually in it.
I just remembered it. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Hes humming some song http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

mbabbs
07-11-2005, 05:42 AM
Das Boot is a work of art.

The script, acting, directing, set, casting and attention to detail are astounding. You really do gain an appreciation for life onboard a U-Boat during the war which is what the film aims to achieve.

It admirably strives for realism as its goal and seeks to provide the viewer with a taste of life onboard a U-Boat rather than reaping the greater revenue by dumbing down to provide a glamour fest for the action junkies.

The longer version adds to the appreciation as it fleshes out the characters and gives further insights into life onboard a coffin.

legodragonxp
07-11-2005, 07:07 AM
Given the scenes mentioned above, I guess I didn't see the 'full thing' as the only aircraft attacks were at Gibralter and the end.

I guess I know what to put on my christmas wishlist this year.

stinkhammer6
07-11-2005, 02:56 PM
The last post had nothing remotely close to a flame what so ever, I came in at a different angle, something that would be more suitable since alot are sensitive about this movie for what ever reason. Ive read some prefer saving private ryan as a great war movie, I prefer Stalingrad or The Cross of Iron over the latter. I can say I like the original star wars over the others and people would blow up, then the trekkies would pour in and compare the both and it would be ww3 in here lol. I just have a tendency to give it to you between the eyes, if you ask if you look fat in those pants, surely you wont expect nor like my honest response. Enjoy your movie, what ever favorite it might be.