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luftluuver
09-22-2005, 05:18 AM
Soon to be released.
http://www.japo-publishing.cz/uvod_gb.html

Focke-Wulf Fw 190D camouflage & markings €" Part I
The Focke-Wulf Fw 190D was one of the most elegant and powerful birds of prey in the European skies at the end of WW II. Similar in conception to €œMesserschmitt Bf 109K, camouflage & marking€, this new work provides a thorough insight in the aircraft€s camouflage and marking schemes.
Part I explains the common rules used for camouflaging and marking of the type, and describes in great detail the various colour patterns applied to the different Focke-Wulf built Fw 190D-9 and D-11 production batches.
The book is fully documented with extracts from original documents, black & white, and colour photographs, as well as colour schemes and colour profiles. It is completed with a comprehensive loss list of the entire Focke-Wulf production.
Highly recommended for all students of WW II aerial warfare, Fw 190 fans, and modellers.
Hardback, 208 pages, approx. 240 photographs, numerous colour schemes, and camouflage profiles of 32 aircraft. English text.

by Eric Lager:

Now just very few weeks to wait. I can say nothing regarding the time spent on the project with Marc and Tomas.

As you mentionned in your post, the project initially planned for one book was split in 2 complementary issues. One of the main reason was the fact that we were able to get much more material than thought at the early stages of this projet which was also a human and friendship adventure.

New material , means , extra text, extra photo captions, extra drawings and we did not want to sacrifice the main purpose of this study , to propose earlier, unpublished material.

As said on JaPo site, this first issue will cover general information on Fw 190D-9 concerning the markings and the camouflage schemes, and will review in detail the markings and camouflages, of Focke Wulf built Fw 190Ds (Fw 190D-9 & Fw 190D-11).

The subject of the second volume is easy to guess !

We include, as announced, a loss list of the identified Focke Wulf built Dora-9s .

This forthcoming book, if the first half of a common work initiate 11 years ago with Marc and filled a large part of our free time since then, and even more when elaborating the books themselves !

luftluuver
09-22-2005, 05:18 AM
Soon to be released.
http://www.japo-publishing.cz/uvod_gb.html

Focke-Wulf Fw 190D camouflage & markings €" Part I
The Focke-Wulf Fw 190D was one of the most elegant and powerful birds of prey in the European skies at the end of WW II. Similar in conception to €œMesserschmitt Bf 109K, camouflage & marking€, this new work provides a thorough insight in the aircraft€s camouflage and marking schemes.
Part I explains the common rules used for camouflaging and marking of the type, and describes in great detail the various colour patterns applied to the different Focke-Wulf built Fw 190D-9 and D-11 production batches.
The book is fully documented with extracts from original documents, black & white, and colour photographs, as well as colour schemes and colour profiles. It is completed with a comprehensive loss list of the entire Focke-Wulf production.
Highly recommended for all students of WW II aerial warfare, Fw 190 fans, and modellers.
Hardback, 208 pages, approx. 240 photographs, numerous colour schemes, and camouflage profiles of 32 aircraft. English text.

by Eric Lager:

Now just very few weeks to wait. I can say nothing regarding the time spent on the project with Marc and Tomas.

As you mentionned in your post, the project initially planned for one book was split in 2 complementary issues. One of the main reason was the fact that we were able to get much more material than thought at the early stages of this projet which was also a human and friendship adventure.

New material , means , extra text, extra photo captions, extra drawings and we did not want to sacrifice the main purpose of this study , to propose earlier, unpublished material.

As said on JaPo site, this first issue will cover general information on Fw 190D-9 concerning the markings and the camouflage schemes, and will review in detail the markings and camouflages, of Focke Wulf built Fw 190Ds (Fw 190D-9 & Fw 190D-11).

The subject of the second volume is easy to guess !

We include, as announced, a loss list of the identified Focke Wulf built Dora-9s .

This forthcoming book, if the first half of a common work initiate 11 years ago with Marc and filled a large part of our free time since then, and even more when elaborating the books themselves !

LeadSpitter_
09-22-2005, 10:20 AM
japo publishing makes squadron signal seem accurate, i never read such bias books before im sure the community here will enjoy and agree with them.

luftluuver
09-22-2005, 10:53 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LeadSpitter_:
japo publishing makes squadron signal seem accurate, i never read such bias books before im sure the community here will enjoy and agree with them. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Now that is painting with a very wide brush. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif Not having any of the JaPo books, could you elaberate on this, IYO, bias.

faustnik
09-22-2005, 11:34 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LeadSpitter_:
japo publishing makes squadron signal seem accurate, i never read such bias books before im sure the community here will enjoy and agree with them. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm sure JaPo books are responsible for much of the clearly overmodeled Luftwaffe camouflage and markings in PF. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

Steven190
09-22-2005, 12:44 PM
I have two of their books. Bf109K-4's

Both are well done and agree with others as to camo, specs. and markings.

JG5_UnKle
09-22-2005, 05:11 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by faustnik:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LeadSpitter_:
japo publishing makes squadron signal seem accurate, i never read such bias books before im sure the community here will enjoy and agree with them. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm sure JaPo books are responsible for much of the clearly overmodeled Luftwaffe camouflage and markings in PF. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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RafiGer
09-22-2005, 11:01 PM
@ Leadsplitter

I also really think that you don't have to worry about the quality of JaPo Publishing Books.

Their attemps in recontructing and documenting the Fighterplanes of the Luftwaffe and their operational history during the ocupation of the Czech Territory are truly based on outstanding photografic and documentary resources.

Owning six of their books I would recommend them witout any doubt http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

@ faustnik -&gt; Great reply http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

LeadSpitter_
09-23-2005, 06:49 AM
Being czech I have to tell you theres alot of wrong information, mainly due to translation and alot of ficticious data and undocumented stories.

Many wrong profiles also and markings. Its no shock many want to believe some of the propaganda about thier favorite squadrons planes and performances.

But then again almost every book has many things wrong with them.

osprey
japo
aj press
squadron signal
kagero
monogram
militaria
schiffer
SAM
mushroom
mcgraw hill
burnin do
and many others.


Out of the thousands of books i've read from many nations the most indepth and documented to military historical records performances interviews has to be the red star black cross series.

I been hoping gunther ralls biography gets translated to english soon too.


@badsight, actually I blame the majority of clueless blue only pilots who been crying since il2 demo that the 109 should have no compressibility and online gain a 300 to 1 ratio. Dont get me wrong back then in stumo the 190 was a flying c47 filled with concrete plane, then the k4 was like a b1, the hurricanes fm was way overmodeled same with i16 and i153 climb manuverability highspeed dms etc then 3.04s spit was silly with its zero energy climb, but 4.01 is ridiculous with the 109 stalls highspeed manueverability, pp climb exploit and 190a E retention compaired to 51 and 47 and 190ds ufoness, 109 190d are much faker then the 3.04 spitfire fm this patch and no one will admit it. it has the same advantages but much better highspeed handling no compressibility, supertrim which ruined this game, at least the 3.04 spitfire suffered from 640kmh full compressibility so do the russian ac.

This game has the potential to have every advantage and disadvantage each ac had. So modeling just disadvantages without correct dive and accelaration, zoomclimb, high speed manueverability, wrong stall speeds, wrong dms and ballistics makes the hugest bias difference.
Im afraid it never will be realistic but we get our moneys worth in the ammount of content included.

The only way to get things close to reality as rounding off all nations testing performances data trails etc rather then using 1 best chart vs 1 worst chart. Ac are like cars off the assembly lines each perform differently with the occasional lemons not to mention almost every ac of wwii was field modded.

Oleg cators to blue becuase thats the majority of his customers, it dont matter where they are from many from britian america germany finland australia who fly blue only. I dont blame him at all catoring the the majority of his customers, its a business after all.

Hawgdog
09-23-2005, 07:35 AM
I cant believe no one has complained about the word Japo yet! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

LeadSpitter_
09-23-2005, 07:40 AM
heres one on the left I hijacked from your image gallery hawg

http://www.miaslapper.orcon.net.nz/poundmiadrag2004_09.jpg

faustnik
09-23-2005, 10:00 AM
Leadspitter,

I agree that there are errors in every publishers books, some are very obvious like mislabeled pictures, but, most of them are written in good faith. The Kagero and Mushroom series are excellent attempts by small publishers to provide a quality product. Kagero does very well with color profiles on high quality stock with UV coated covers and interesting foldouts. Schiffer books are expensive but, they always use quality papers and printing quality and binding are good.

***********************

I'll give you a serious reply on your FM complaints this time http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif:

As far as 4.01, there were some major changes in the global FM, problems with individual a/c are to be expected. Look for 4.02 to correct them.

The Fw190A energy retention in 4.01 is very good but, it is offset by very poor acceleration. I spend most of my online time in the A4, and its acceleration is just awful. As you mentioned, once it gets going it retains energy very well, it's getting it a state of energy advantage that is the problem. Fw190 DM is fixed in 4.02 (Hopefully not over-fixed). Mg151/20 now have proper power in 4.01, that's a big plus.

The P-51 and P-47 also retain energy very well, I do not agree with you there. I would like to see improved dive and zoom climb with both. The P-51 seems too "slippery" to me for lack of a better term. It turns like cr4p and requires even more discipline than the Fw190As. If you stick to proper tactics, you can beat the 109s (we've done this against experienced 109s squads) but, it seems too difficult to me. The P-51 wasn't known for being that squirley from what I've read about it. .50s do plenty of damage, it's keeping them on target that is rough. P-47 DM, well, I've expressed my opinion on that in ORR already.

All my FM comments must be weighed against my limited combat time in Fw190s, P-51s and P-47s. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

RafiGer
09-24-2005, 02:28 AM
@ Leadsplitter

Yes, you're right about errors and misinformation's, this is an issue related to all publishers due to the fact that they have to rely on their choosen sources http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

But for example the colour schemes and Markings of Bf-109 & Fw-190 profiles refering to historical photographs of the Luftwaffe over Czech Territories 1945 are quite correct and suits sources from Units History data's and documents that I compared with other sources, e.g. US-Armee and USAAF reports of for example the airfield and scrap yards of Neubiburg in May 1945 and Kenneth Merrik's (old & new), Hikoki together with Ullmann.

Because I'm very interested in achiving as much autheticity as possible could help me and give an or samoe example?

Thank you very much in adavance http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

LeadSpitter_
09-24-2005, 11:20 AM
np rafiger, im a fan of your skins and website. And they are very accurate. If you would like i can scan many of the profiles i have in my books for you.

larger_d9
09-25-2005, 12:32 AM
Hello , here is Eric Larger one of authors of the book you criticize .

You said being czech and you pretend to tell everybody informations and announcing that there were wrong translations and wrong profiles in Japo's publications .
..
I take time to write you , but it is wasting much more time than anybody would take to answer to such rubish post. Who are you to say so ?

First be aware that there was no translation for this book , we wrote in english , even if we are not english . Sorry Dear "Monsieur" .

You said there was wrong data in JaPo's books , One question do you have all Luftwaffe documents from 1939 to 1945 , plus all interviews of pilots and all photos taken during this period to be able to write so ?

The book is a 15 years research result , it is sure that someone will find that one information we share in the book is wrong , because he has the formal proof of it . Ok we announce it in the foreword and US WE are concious of it .

You said some other publications were better , for exemple squadron signals Fw 190D walkaround , or Eagles publication eaglefiles #1 and #2 , or model art no 336 . All have completelly or partialy wrong informations , because some documents were not available at the time they where published or some new photos come out in the meantime .

Criticizing is easy , aguing with the real proofs is much more complex ....

Be aware that the profiles at 80% are based on several photos of the same machine , to evaluate all aspects . It tooks several months for them to be finished , and , nobody ,have seen such accurate drawings for Fw 190D-9 . It is not my opinion, but the one of several historians , known around the word , you should have the books of in your library

Do you pretend to know history better than us when being a IL2 player or moderator or what so ever .... I like this game I have it too , here also there is some mistakes regarding the reality , but we stil play it .

What is culture ???

Is it to have hundred of books to say that you have the largest collection of the world , do you really know what is writing a book first ?

For someones, is it like marmelade , the less you have the most you have to spread it .

So ONE MORE TIME , took time to see the real documents before giving such an opinion .

On person on 12 OCH has seen the draft before being sent to printer . I may invite you to read it .


Regards

Eric Larger

Interminate
09-25-2005, 11:54 AM
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Mysha76
09-25-2005, 04:01 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LeadSpitter_:
Being czech ... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Tak ty jseš Œech? No to by m" nikdy nenapadlo, že proslavená "ervená plaka" je z našich koninhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif)

dadada1
09-26-2005, 06:12 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LeadSpitter_:
japo publishing makes squadron signal seem accurate, i never read such bias books before im sure the community here will enjoy and agree with them. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

As far as the question of bias is concerned you are probably better qualified than most of us.

LeadSpitter_
09-26-2005, 08:34 AM
Its ok, you make many errors just like everyone else.

I will still buy becuase Im interested in aviation.

Im wondering what do you think of your series of books compaired to the red star black cross's content and sources really if you have read them. Honestly.

Me bias never, I do read alot and use data from all contries in which it all varies greatly, so there really is no accurate one chart showing data specifications as japo does for an entire plane series. Being a publisher with many titles I thought they should be aware of that. Also thier layout and design needs works as well as cover art.

Many of this community can simply go to the library and write a book of equal quality and sell it. They are just soar I spoke the truth. But hey many of thier stock are sold out so whats it matter right or is that just a cheesy sales gimmick many use http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I been reasearching since the early 80s my friend just becuase I enjoy this game dont get the false idea im some kid just playing a game.
I think your books the 5 I have are mainly picture and profile books, more pictures then text on pages, your profile artists do great work. But then again that just shows japos fine assumptions of things straight from some of the "historians" fingers.

15 years of research on the dora book? How do you manage to add that up being theres only about a few thousand documents reading time worth information from all documentations government documentations, squadron reports, pilot memoirs, ground crew interviews, facatory data tests from many nations?

I hope you were not getting paid for researching one plane for 15 years.

Put it this way what does your book offer over the other publishers I mentioned above? Why do you think yours is more accurate then everyone elses they use the same daimler benz aktiengesellschaft zentrale suttgart-unterturkheim sektor: entwicklung and fleugzwerks data anyone can purchase.

Jaws2002
09-26-2005, 08:50 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LeadSpitter_:
Me bias never... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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This is the best laugh I had today . http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

LeadSpitter_
09-26-2005, 09:03 AM
And what am I bias about i would like to hear this jaws?

Btw name one aircraft in game that comes close to its performances it

SL-10000m speed
sustained combat turn
dive accelaration
climb
roll at varied speed
take off lenght
glide slope
stall speed
cem
elevator compressibility
torque

not one.

after all japo is just here to make some $$$ is the name veverka familiar to any of you?

dadada1
09-26-2005, 10:11 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LeadSpitter_:
And what am I bias about i would like to hear this jaws?

Btw name one aircraft in game that comes close to its performances it

SL-10000m speed
sustained combat turn
dive accelaration
climb
roll at varied speed
take off lenght
glide slope
stall speed
cem
elevator compressibility
torque

not one.

after all japo is just here to make some $$$ is the name veverka familiar to any of you? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

If you don't know its pretty pointless telling you.

faustnik
09-26-2005, 10:26 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LeadSpitter_:

Btw name one aircraft in game that comes close to its performances it.... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The Fw190A model comes pretty close to stats in all areas.

P-39 models have been brought close to stats in recent patches too.

I'm sure there are many others.

4.02 should bring everything closer to historical stats. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

LeadSpitter_
09-26-2005, 11:35 AM
care to prove it fraust with device link plots and manufacturor data, not one ac comes close unfortunatly in game.

and dadada1 yes I know you cannot say a thing, only one has caught me being wrong and was tagert about something not even modeled in game.

faustnik
09-26-2005, 02:01 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LeadSpitter_:
care to prove it fraust with device link plots and manufacturor data, not one ac comes close unfortunatly in game.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Why would I need to "prove it" Lwadspitter? You are the one constantly whining about things being incorrect without any evidence to support your exaggerations or outright fabrications. Why don't you show us how every a/c in PF is so wrong?

bolillo_loco
09-26-2005, 02:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jaws2002:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LeadSpitter_:
Me bias never... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

This is the best laugh I had today . http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

you won't be laughing for long Jaws!

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MikeCK
09-26-2005, 02:14 PM
Originally posted by LeadSpitter_:

Btw name one aircraft in game that comes close to its performances it

SL-10000m speed
sustained combat turn
dive accelaration
climb
roll at varied speed
take off lenght
glide slope
stall speed
cem
elevator compressibility
torque

not one.

And this is related to Fw 190D camouflage and markings in wich way??!??

And what kind of "manufacture data" do you have on usstained turns for airplanes like P-51 or P-47?. I'll tell you: NADA.

Kurfurst__
09-26-2005, 03:01 PM
Fun thing that Milo Morai and his many nicknames ever since he was banned from the community had renewed an old custom of his, runnig two nicks and participating with both, occasially kissing his own butt with the other nick.

For starters, luftluuver and dadada are the same person, and you are participating in the newest flamethread of that poor thing who has nothing better to do with his life.

His real name is Shaun Innes, just in case you have a neighbour in Canada with that name, now you know he is a real freak. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Leadspitter, you czech? Yep, then I am half Zulu, half Eskimo.

As for the JaPo books, I have seen the two recent books on the 109K, they are excellent pieces beating many 'expert' books on the subject with a wealth of information and very good pictures. The G-10/U4 book is said to be equally good, and highly recommended by anyone I heard so far. LS probably haven`t even seen the book.

Jaws2002
09-26-2005, 04:50 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by bolillo_loco:

you won't be laughing for long Jaws!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/bolillo_quemado/jaws.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif moooommmmyyy!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Jaws2002
09-26-2005, 05:08 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Kurfurst__:
Fun thing that Milo Morai and his many nicknames ever since he was banned from the community had renewed an old custom of his, runnig two nicks and participating with both, occasially kissing his own butt with the other nick.

For starters, luftluuver and dadada are the same person, and you are participating in the newest flamethread of that poor thing who has nothing better to do with his life.

His real name is Shaun Innes, just in case you have a neighbour in Canada with that name, now you know he is a real freak. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Leadspitter, you czech? Yep, then I am half Zulu, half Eskimo.

As for the JaPo books, I have seen the two recent books on the 109K, they are excellent pieces beating many 'expert' books on the subject with a wealth of information and very good pictures. The G-10/U4 book is said to be equally good, and highly recommended by anyone I heard so far. LS probably haven`t even seen the book. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Listen Kurfust and Milo. Why don't you get a room. You guys are barking at each other in all the forums you can get in, turning some interesting discussion in your private war. Don't you think it's getting old and we are all tired of it?

LeadSpitter_
09-26-2005, 05:39 PM
yes im full czech and have a couple moles to prove it.

I don't speak it but just know certain words from growing up bubbi for one and others but never was taught the language.

Max.Power
09-26-2005, 05:59 PM
I think that a lot of people are so torn about other issues and inaccuracies in the videogame that they find it difficult to stay on topic.

"I like this book, it has a lot of cool pictures and paint schemes in it."

"Your book is **** because stuff is mislabelled and there are wishful performance statistics in it."

Well, I don't think that that constitutes a crappy book. I, personally, don't think that the original poster was thinking of programming his own flight simulator based solely on the book. Perhaps a simple warning about the inadequacies of the book would have been sufficient?

luftluuver
09-26-2005, 06:42 PM
Jaws2002, I don't know who this Milo is that Kurfurst says I am? I have made two posts in this thread so far, one to start the tread to tell about a new JaPo book and the other to ask about the claimed bias. Kurfurst must be emotionally and mentally unbalanced to see any flaming in those two posts. This is the ONE AND ONLY name I have on this board.

The only one who is flaming, is Kurfurst. If he continues with these uncalled for attacks, a complaint will be lodged with the Moderators, not that it will do any good, as Kurfurst appears to get away with what others cannot. I saw a reference that he is a lawyer. Is it possible he threatened Ubi with some sort of legal action if he is banned?

Jaws2002, do you have links to other boards so that I can see why Kurfurst has this zealoted hatred of this Milo? What name do you go by on them?

Mysha76
09-27-2005, 02:29 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LeadSpitter_:
Being czech I have to tell you theres alot of wrong information, mainly due to translation and alot of ficticious data and undocumented stories. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

so, you know Czech language very good.

But wait:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">yes im full czech and have a couple moles to prove it.I don't speak it but just know certain words from growing up bubbi for one and others but never was taught the language. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

well, you -maybe- know some words. But you arent expert for translation issues. And you know it.
You are liar, person without credibility.

Radši se nau pořádn" l*tat, troubo http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

dadada1
09-27-2005, 05:35 AM
Wow, now I'm really confused about who I am, Milo Morai, luftluuver, dadada1. So who's the guy in the mirror ?

larger_d9
09-27-2005, 06:56 AM
Hello

For having worked with friends on several publications since many years , I honestly think that JaPo collection is probably one of the top 5 .

Not because it is my publisher , but because of the quality they achieve , photos , drawings , profiles, paper quality ... And a lot of my friends , well known historians or researchers all around the world have also the same opinion . We should have been crazy to publish something with a publisher, we dislike the way it works or the products it issues . We had the choice . Do you think that if we were not serious in our historical work we would have retrain their attention ?

They are not only publisher but also very involved in the publication itself . I know several more publishers . JaPo members are real historians. Look at the publications on JG52 or Bf 109G10/U4 .

I can let you know that it tooks us a long time to finalize the profiles for example , to try to represent with the best manner how the aircrafts could have look like 60 years ago . Just because it is the sole way to have a colour representation of them (excluding scale model).We would issue something as accurate as posible in all ways you are expecting to follow reading a book . Iconigraphy, profiles , historical point of view , this not just a photo album . We are not only researches but also modellers and reafders of books too , so we know as readers what we would like to have .

WE are not doing this publication to earn money . Researching is our hobby , and we do it on our free times . The major and sole purpose to publish the book is to exchange our conclusions and analyse of the camouflage and markings . So in the absolute it does not matter it was published at that time or this time , if it took one month more to incoporate new information , it is not true as the publisher has alos its opinion to give .

Yes, we get through official documents, interviews , log books , but also hundreds of photos . And since our initial researches and now , we spend 15 years on the project on our side and few years with Japo to ellaborate this book the way we want it to be .

To sum up , this book is really the result of huge efforts and a lot of time spent (and money too) on several years and even more since few year we are preparing it (it is a second job after working time), so please before saying anything on a publication you do not read , be concious that someones put all their efforts and free time to do it .

There will have perhaps some errors , but up to now and regarding our sources and time spent , the conclusions we achieve are valid and logical. But it is true that if some documents come up in the near future, they can modify our thoughts , but is it the big wheel of historical researches .

Everybody enjoyed the Monogram close up on FW 190D-9 several years ago , now , the informations it contains are not fully accurate because we have other evidences . But at the time it was issued it was good .

All the Best

Eric Larger