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Venom079
06-08-2004, 01:47 PM
Having some trouble taking off with Bi's...I can get in the air just fine, but it's a very ugly takeoff...lol I've always flown them in QMB and never on a server, so i've never had to worry about takeoff...I've tried to ease the throttle up to speed and not punch it, but it still doesn't help. It always wants to start tipping over around 30-40KPH from all the torque. Any suggestions?

Thnx
Venom

Venom079
06-08-2004, 01:47 PM
Having some trouble taking off with Bi's...I can get in the air just fine, but it's a very ugly takeoff...lol I've always flown them in QMB and never on a server, so i've never had to worry about takeoff...I've tried to ease the throttle up to speed and not punch it, but it still doesn't help. It always wants to start tipping over around 30-40KPH from all the torque. Any suggestions?

Thnx
Venom

Taylortony
06-08-2004, 02:51 PM
i always creep it up get it rolling at low power and get some speed then feed a bit in, use rudder and aileron and keep it straight, i can only get up to full power at the end of the runway

F19_Ob
06-08-2004, 03:23 PM
Zoom out to maximum view ( even shift+F1), seeing as much of nature as posiible is important to understand U'r planes attitude and how it moves. Biplanes usually need to accellerate slowly and if u yank the tail up to soon its likely to nose over and even more likely if u veer out in the field...even if u take it slow u'll be up in the air faster than monoplanes, so its just a matter of timing. Try to wait a moment longer. U can try to apply elevator (pull stick back) on the critical part of accelleraton to keep the tail down and if u have the view outzoomed u will easier detect any veering to the side. Past this critical phase U shouldnt have to much problems just climb slowly dont yank (U'll flip). http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif

Venom079
06-08-2004, 03:26 PM
Thnx fellas for the suggestions! I'll give it a go...

S!
Venom

OldPepper
06-08-2004, 03:49 PM
I've found the transition in biplanes to be the moment of truth! Transition is when the rear elevators catch and lift. Right before that happens, however, if you are going too fast, or have too much throttle, the plane will start a horrible upward roll-in-stall which will put you in a body-bag.

I've found that right before you reach transition, I very light push-of-the-stick will lift the elevators and point you down the runway. If you miss that moment, again, the plane will lift-stall-roll-crash. 30% throttle is about right in an I-153, which I've been getting wayyyy too much practice in in campaign already! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

FltLt_HardBall
06-08-2004, 09:59 PM
One technique I've found useful in the Cr-42 (where you can't see anything during takeoff) is to hold the brakes while you throttle up, and carefully! push the stick forward to raise the tail, and the prop wash is enough to lift the tail so that the fuselage is horizontal, and you can see over the nose! At that stage there's enough air flow over the tail surfaces to allow full control. It's cool! Takes a little practise, though.

Jetbuff
06-08-2004, 10:41 PM
Two words: "Stick Forward!"... enjoy http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Breeze147
06-09-2004, 06:02 AM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gifI've crashed into everything on the airfield in the I-153. I've traveled hundreds of yards around the airfield and once got airborne while going back in the opposite direction from which I started. And then at other times, I've had a perfect takeoff. You have to take it slow and let it roll out while applying a tiny bit of forward stick, left rudder and left aileron all at the same time. The key is to take it easy. Strange, I never had a bit of trouble landing one.

When I finally got to the IL-2 in the stock campaign, it was like a gift from Uncle Joe.

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Tully__
06-09-2004, 09:48 AM
Stick full forward until the tail raises, then gradually ease the stick back as the speed picks up. Same for the I-16 too. It makes all the difference http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Venom079
06-09-2004, 10:13 AM
Thnx again fellas for all the help and support! I didn't get a chance to give it a go last night but I should have some time tonight to play around with it...Hopefullyhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

S!