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MustangDrivr
02-27-2005, 08:11 AM
Got game as a gift so new to this. Can't find in manual - is there a way to look behind you other than turning the a/c around? By the time I do that and turn back of course the bad guy I was after is gone. So far only tried P-40 Pearl Harbor.

Aero_Shodanjo
02-27-2005, 08:27 AM
For a/c that dont have teardrop shaped/allround view canopy, the answer is obvious: Dont fly straight. Fly a zigzag course.

But in any plane, inside the cockpit, you can turn the view using the mouse. Combine that with zoom out (default: page down button) to get a wider view.

3.JG51_BigBear
02-27-2005, 08:51 AM
Some aircraft, the P-40 being one of them, has the option to toggle off and on a realy effective mirror. You'll need to go into Controls and map a key to the "Toggle Mirror" function (I'm pretty sure that's how it appears). For the mirror to be most effective you'll need to use the "page down" key to zoom out and hit Shift-F1 to get out of the gunsigt view.

Dash_C.
02-27-2005, 08:56 AM
I check my seven or five and use the rudder to kick the tail over to the opposite side. That way I can see a good portion of my six for a second or two.

x6BL_Brando
02-27-2005, 09:03 AM
What??!! Does this mean I don't have to open the canopy and crawl out onto the wing to get a peek behind those big flat things at the back of the aeroplane?? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif Someone has been fooling me! I suppose now someone's gonna say that these pedals don't make the plane go any faster!

Weather_Man
02-27-2005, 11:09 AM
If you have external views on and padlock, hit F6. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

DuxCorvan
02-27-2005, 12:37 PM
If you are brave enough to confess it, press Ctrl+F1 and move the mouse. If you are self-confident, play in cockpit-only servers and die as a man. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

reddevil49
02-27-2005, 01:27 PM
I thought those pedal thingys were the brake and gas. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Waldo.Pepper
02-27-2005, 03:40 PM
The older I get the harder it is becoming.

And Mrs. Pepper (who does the laundry - thank you very much Honey!) is begining to complain that my undies are slowly becoming uncleanable.

Latico
02-27-2005, 03:55 PM
I've noticed that when you use the Shift+F1 gunsite mode you can see a little further behind you from the cockpit. Don't try this in the SBD-3 or Val because you'll get the bomb site.

It appears that when you use the Shift+F1 mode it moves your POV forward in the cockpit. So, if you slew around to look over your shoulder you can see further around behind the plane, past the cockpit frame. You still have to turn the plane some to side to side to see all the area behind you, though.

And BTW, I was told that you ncan stand up in the cockpit to check your six by hitting the Ctrl+E keys. But, everytime I did I fell out.

Can't trust nobody on these forums! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

BP_Zip
02-27-2005, 03:56 PM
Uh, Waldo, they sell skivvies at Walmart. You can get new ones!

han freak solo
02-27-2005, 04:16 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>And BTW, I was told that you ncan stand up in the cockpit to check your six by hitting the Ctrl+E keys. But, everytime I did I fell out.

Can't trust nobody on these forums! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif I can't stop laughin'........

By the way, I check my six by going to the refridgerator. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Cragger
02-27-2005, 04:30 PM
Skid like its been mentioned before. Step on the rudder and feed in counter aileron and elevator to get the tail out of the way.

DuxCorvan
02-27-2005, 04:34 PM
The best way is to approach a friend and ask him:

-Please, check my six! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_6_9.gif

han freak solo
02-27-2005, 04:51 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DuxCorvan:
The best way is to approach a friend and ask him:

-Please, check my six! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_6_9.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm just glad you shaved before showing us that! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

horseback
02-27-2005, 05:11 PM
Now that you funny lads have had your laugh, do you think you could give the guy a straight answer? He clearly is not an experienced simmer and is playing with the keyboard or using a joystick that lacks a POV hat.

Mustangdrivr, first I should advise you that there is a .pdf copy of the manual on one of the game disks. Also, if you check under your Start menu in Windows XP, and find the game under Programs, you'll see the manual listed there, next to Pacific Fighters or FB+AEP+PF (if you went and got the whole magilla).

Now, as for setting up your views, as someone has already pointed out, while you're 'in flight,' you can move your point of view (POV)around using your mouse. Also, most joysticks include what is referred to as a POV hatswitch, an 8-position switch usually controlled with your thumb to 'look around' in the horizontal plane. It's called a hatswitch because it often looks a bit like the conical 'coolie' hats worn in parts of Asia.

If you are using the keyboard (not the best way to play, I assure you), you can use your keypad to control your views, the Default view being straight ahead, 8 being Look Up Ahead, 4 being Look left, 6 being Look Right, with the 1,7, 9 and 3 keys being the views between. 5 is Look straight Up, and 2 is Look straight Down. You can augment this by going into your Controls Menu in the game and assigning directions to look, for instance Look Back Up Left, or up 45 degrees and over 'your' left shoulder. This can be done by combining 5 (Look Up) and 1 (Look Back Left).

Incidentally, if you have a joystick with a POV hat, you can apply this principal by using the Look Up command at the same time as you move your hat around, which will raise your line of sight 45 degrees, very handy in a dogfight.

There is no Look (straight) Back command, so you are limited to to doing an 'S' turn and looking back over your shoulder (keypad 1 or 3), just like the real pilots did.

Good luck, and welcome to the community (we're not always smart@sses, it's just my day off).

cheers

horseback

han freak solo
02-27-2005, 05:29 PM
MustangDrivr, welcome, welcome, welcome. It looked like you had been given answers to your question by the time I laughed at these other guys.

They can be so d@mned funny sometimes!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

This forum can be informative and entertaining!

Waldo.Pepper
02-27-2005, 06:35 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BP_Zip:
Uh, Waldo, they sell skivvies at Walmart. You can get new ones! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Walmart = EVIL!
I boycott Walmart..

and Canadian Tire.
and Future Shop/Best Buy.
and Nike.
and Kraft food products.

I am running out of places to shop and thinks to buy. But I am sitting on a fatter wallet that way.

lkemling
02-27-2005, 07:25 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by reddevil49:
I thought those pedal thingys were the brake and gas. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Youse mean their NOT!!!

F4U_Flyer
02-27-2005, 10:40 PM
Aw geeze! Just map a button to flyby and take a quick look! When your toast its a nice way to watch the action too , since your cockpit view is black ...Arrgh! Of course this wont work in cockpit only servers but until you get the hang it works pretty well. Now where is that flyby from below and above , bailout , again!

Bearcat99
02-28-2005, 06:30 PM
Welcome aboard MustangDrivr..... We need to know more about your setup. Do you have a joystick? What kind? Does it have a hat etc.... Some of the bozos above aside.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif we are including them a pretty welcoming bunch.... Its just that such a question betrays almost no sim experience and some of them probably think you are trolling to get a rise... So.. give us the info we need to help you...... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

mortoma
03-01-2005, 12:21 AM
To check six, I hit the F3 command of course, just like they did in real life!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

TgD Thunderbolt56
03-01-2005, 10:40 AM
I ask my wingman or do a "crazyIvan" which is a sort of zig-zag/juke (not to be confused with our resident heavy-handed, miserable dispositioned moderator of the same name http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif ) to look and see what's back there.

Oh, and I use TrackIR in zoom-out view to see a little better back there too.

TB

DuxCorvan
03-01-2005, 12:33 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TgD Thunderbolt56:
(...) do a "crazyIvan" (...) is a sort of zig-zag/juke (...) not to be confused with our (...) moderator of the same name (...) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Why do you think he chose that nick? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_7_7.gif

MustangDrivr
03-01-2005, 07:30 PM
Thanks for the help everybody. Never thought there would be two pages of answers! Looks like there are a zillion ways to look out behind. Lots of advice and some smiles in between. I am an aviation history buff, especially WWII and buld models for a hobby. Definitely new to sims. Someone went to the trouble to buy Pacific Fighters as a gift so I feel I should give it the old college try. Went out and got a joystick called a Microsoft Sidewinder - it has one of those hat sitches. Will go out there and try it again. Now if I can just get this thing off the ground without running into that *s@$# C-46 again. John Wayne made it look easy.
Thanks again, all.

WOLFMondo
03-02-2005, 03:59 AM
I use view plus with my hatswitch and it works nicely, I use the mirrors allot as well, they help allot.

MajorBloodnok
03-02-2005, 05:16 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by reddevil49:
I thought those pedal thingys were the brake and gas. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Ah, so these aircraft are automatics? I was wondering where the clutch was...and that stick in the middle, it's not really for changing gear, is it...

I'll save you the bother - Shift+E

Hendley
03-02-2005, 10:19 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MustangDrivr:
I am an aviation history buff, especially WWII and buld models for a hobby. Definitely new to sims. Someone went to the trouble to buy Pacific Fighters as a gift so I feel I should give it the old college try. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

There's probably lots of folk on this forum who are in a similar boat, but boy-oh-boy the modelling and simming really feed off each other: A few hours flying a plane in the sim, and darn it I want to model it; build a kit and darn it I want to go and fly it for a while. Some of my best Saturdays are spent walking between the computer and the workbench...

It's a vicious cycle... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Henkie_
03-02-2005, 10:55 AM
Here is how I check six:

.ntrk zipped 6Mb (http://www.europeanaf.org/shared/records/Henkie/Henkie3xJG5_vs_3x_EAF.zip)

dgaggi
03-09-2005, 07:51 AM
Ok,
Being that I'm freguently cannon fodder I found this post interesting. One thing that I can't figure out is the mirror maping. I looked under the control setting and didn't see it anywhere. Can anyone tell me exactly where it is? Is it under views...etc. Thanks!

BanaBob
03-09-2005, 07:59 AM
Check Six (http://www.checksix-fr.com/)

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

dgaggi
03-09-2005, 08:10 AM
Um Bob,
Thanks but I don't read or speak French.

Hoatee
03-09-2005, 08:27 AM
This must definitely be done as I battled with the problem,too :

Assign just two buttons on your joystick in the controls menu - one to look up and the other to look down. Then when you press them in combination with say left on your hat then you will be looking up or down left. Press the buttons with your left hand and the hat with your right.

Remember just assign the two keys - the game should the rest. Picked up the tip in this forum somewhere....

Markku38
03-09-2005, 09:11 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hendley:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MustangDrivr:
I am an aviation history buff, especially WWII and buld models for a hobby. Definitely new to sims. Someone went to the trouble to buy Pacific Fighters as a gift so I feel I should give it the old college try. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

There's probably lots of folk on this forum who are in a similar boat, but boy-oh-boy the modelling and simming really feed off each other: A few hours flying a plane in the sim, and darn it I want to model it; build a kit and darn it I want to go and fly it for a while. Some of my best Saturdays are spent walking between the computer and the workbench...

It's a vicious cycle... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yep - I know that too http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

IL-2m3, P-51D & Thunderbolt waiting...

dgaggi
03-09-2005, 09:22 AM
Thanks Hoat,
I'll give it a shot.