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leitmotiv
02-15-2008, 10:21 AM
I want.

http://www.mydreamflyer.com/dreamflyer.html#

leitmotiv
02-15-2008, 10:21 AM
I want.

http://www.mydreamflyer.com/dreamflyer.html#

Lurch1962
02-18-2008, 08:35 PM
When I found out about these over a year ago I too was smitten. Being a DIY kind of guy, I thought of making one. Some thoughts about this neat toy...

- I like the idea of un-powered simplicity! No noisy motors/chains/belts.

- Even though this simple 2 degree-of-freedom motion platform does not incorporate washout, I think the effect of even the fairly small roll and pitch movements would offer a neat mind-bending illusion of maneuvering a plane. In fact, the arguably unrealistic persistence of attitude which is always in step with joystick position would in some way compensate for the lack of extra degrees of freedom of motion. I suspect I'll actually experience some of the sensations I enjoy in my dreams of flying!

- Ease and rapidity of motion requires the smallest stick forces possible. This means the minimization of moments of inertia, and hence the layout must position the body in a semi-reclining posture (FW 'pit, anyone?). The idea is to minimize the placement of mass far from the center of gravity.

- In conformance with the preceding, heavy monitors (CRTs especially) are to be avoided. Moreover, monitor placement should be reasonably close to the roll axis. Most units end up having the monitor down close to the feet. (Hmmmm....)

- Such a rig might necessitate a toning down of ham-fisted stick handling due to the inertia of your body and other stuff attached to the frame. The maker claims a complete figure-8 "swirl" of the stick can be made in two seconds. Do that with your stick while counting out "0 - 1 - 2". You might find it to be a somewhat sedate pace compared with the way you currently yank it in the heat of combat.

- An image projected on a separate screen (or wall) just won't do--the effect the 'flyer is designed to deliver would be destroyed. The display MUST move with the unit.

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Things I'd consider altering or adding on...

- The monitor-down-by-the-feet idea has to go! As y'all know, I'm a wide field aficionado who seeks maximum immersion into the scene. The screen has got to be close to my eyes. Better yet, a reasonably high-resolution, wide field head mounted display would be the cat's meow.

- If no HMD is to be had (or made), ambient distractions should be blocked with a light-weight shroud.

- Head trackers of course must be mounted so as to move with the unit. A potential problem is a "wobbly" view due to the player's head bobbing around somewhat. Of course, one could disable head-shake in the game's difficulty settings and get the "real thing!"

Schwarz.13
02-19-2008, 04:12 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by leitmotiv:
I want.

http://www.mydreamflyer.com/dreamflyer.html# </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hang on Leitmotiv! Someone posted about this a couple of months ago and wasn't it you who said only once it could make you go upside down then you might consider it? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

leitmotiv
02-19-2008, 05:28 AM
Frikking incredible memory! How am I going to lumber into genial senility when you zap me with my half-thought-out posts of months back? I have been fair and squarely undone. I'll be hiding in the brush looking for payback for this!!!! Nice work!!!!

Schwarz.13
02-19-2008, 10:04 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by leitmotiv:
I'll be hiding in the brush looking for payback for this!!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh no! What in God's name have i done? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif