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raaaid
12-19-2007, 04:16 AM
http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/webpictures/tide1.jpg

you are on the beach on high tide and see the new moon in the horizont

whats wrong in the scenary?

raaaid
12-19-2007, 04:16 AM
http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/webpictures/tide1.jpg

you are on the beach on high tide and see the new moon in the horizont

whats wrong in the scenary?

K_Freddie
12-19-2007, 04:34 AM
Are you sure you don't mean FULL MOON (or part of) ?

Do you remember a few years ago when all the planets were aligned with the sun.
Well, it's midday, and all the planets and sun are aligned above you (or on the other side from where you stand), so the gravitational forces is now greater than the Moons G, so it's high tide where you are.
You're not showing the planets in the picture.

BUT, the astronomy and oceanography community would know this in advance, and let everyone know.

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

K_Freddie
12-19-2007, 04:49 AM
Or you could be on the poles, during winter months. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

raaaid
12-19-2007, 05:06 AM
yeah even inside the earth

disney comics talked of a sun inside earth the monn would be the sun disguised

K_Freddie
12-19-2007, 07:34 AM
You must collect Disney comics .. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

R_Target
12-19-2007, 07:51 AM
If you're going in the Hollow Earth, look out for the Nazis (http://paranormal.about.com/od/hollowearth/a/aa022206.htm).

Breeze147
12-19-2007, 08:45 AM
Well, for one thing, the sky has an odd yellow hue.

bmoffa
12-19-2007, 09:25 AM
Just saw that on "The Universe" about a week ago. The Moon actually runs a little behind the tide humps.

DuxCorvan
12-19-2007, 10:05 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by K_Freddie:
You must collect Disney comics .. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yep, he knows Rockerduck and that... I guess he's an old fan of 'Don Miki'; are you, Raaaid? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

LEBillfish
12-19-2007, 10:30 AM
Ok I'll bite (as you've discussed this before)....How does this relate to "The Truman Show" and you?

*wait for it*

raaaid
12-19-2007, 01:33 PM
i love don miki

on the truman show you can see full monn and sun together which is a hint to the sky being false

i couldnt avoid to think of that when i saw the tide high and the new moon in the horizont

BfHeFwMe
12-19-2007, 06:34 PM
The earth has turned into an egg? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

Lurch1962
12-19-2007, 07:34 PM
The only way you can (technically) see the new moon is during a solar eclipse. Now, if you meant a *nearly* new moon, such as a slender crescent, then I get you.

But I must ask, is this "new moon on the horizon during high tide" an event you personally witnessed? If so, where? What time of the day (to place the sun's position in the sky)? In short, give us the DETAILS, man!

Or is this all some vision or dream you just woke up from?

M_Gunz
12-19-2007, 08:04 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by raaaid:
http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/webpictures/tide1.jpg

you are on the beach on high tide and see the new moon in the horizont

whats wrong in the scenary? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What's wrong with the viewer is what's wrong with the scenery. The viewer is on a beach
just where? The enclosed Mediterranean sea perhaps? In a harbor there maybe?

The idealized view you show should give tide height as 6 feet at the equator.

BUT since water takes time to move and since harbors and seas have shapes that modify the
movement we get anomalies in places. Bay of Fundy has 16 ft tide due to channeling of water
by the shape of land in the region far north of the equator. That is not the only place

From Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tide)

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">The changing tide produced at a given location is the result of the changing positions of the Moon and Sun relative to the Earth coupled with the effects of Earth rotation and the local shape of the sea floor.[1] Sea level measured by coastal tide gauges may also be strongly affected by wind. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Read up, it's not so completely simple as the simple lesson to show the simple part looks.

Wasn't life so much simpler when heavier objects fell faster, the earth was at the center
of the universe and questioning any of that on any basis got people locked up or killed?
Really, what's more important? Cars, refrigerators, electric lights, aircraft... or people
not having drop dead simple explanations and living in confusion?

raaaid
12-20-2007, 05:09 AM
yeah i witnessed it my self though it could be a false memory, i remember having levitated as a child

it was almost new moon 20º over the horizont, tide at its highest in a beach on open sea

ivbeen all summer trying to figure out tides by moon position with my moongraph watch but no way

maybe just another lie from oficial science?

LEBillfish
12-20-2007, 06:47 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LEBillfish:
Ok I'll bite (as you've discussed this before)....How does this relate to "The Truman Show" and you?

*wait for it* </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by raaaid:
yeah i witnessed it my self though it could be a false memory, i remember having levitated as a child

it was almost new moon 20º over the horizont, tide at its highest in a beach on open sea

ivbeen all summer trying to figure out tides by moon position with my moongraph watch but no way

maybe just another lie from oficial science? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Almost there......wait for it....

DuxCorvan
12-20-2007, 08:32 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by raaaid:
yeah i witnessed it my self though it could be a false memory, i remember having levitated as a child </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Do you remember an unicorn? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/2/26/275px-BladeRunner_Unicorn1.jpg
http://www.cafardcosmique.com/IMG/jpg/Fiery_Eye.jpg

Breeze147
12-20-2007, 11:13 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DuxCorvan:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by raaaid:
yeah i witnessed it my self though it could be a false memory, i remember having levitated as a child </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Do you remember an unicorn? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/2/26/275px-BladeRunner_Unicorn1.jpg
http://www.cafardcosmique.com/IMG/jpg/Fiery_Eye.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Dux, old bean, I believe you have stumbled upon one of those odd exceptions that pop up in English grammar.

Although "AN" would normally precede a word beginning with a vowel, in this case it produces a rather clumsy flow of words. In this case, it would be preferable to use "A" to precede the "u" vowel in unicorn.

DuxCorvan
12-20-2007, 12:07 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Breeze147:
Dux, old bean, I believe you have stumbled upon one of those odd exceptions that pop up in English grammar.

Although "AN" would normally precede a word beginning with a vowel, in this case it produces a rather clumsy flow of words. In this case, it would be preferable to use "A" to precede the "u" vowel in unicorn. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, it sounded definitively weird to me. I had that doubt all the time. Thank you.

BfHeFwMe
12-20-2007, 09:10 PM
http://www.ionsgarage.com/site/gfx/levitate1.jpg

Behold the pull of the moon.

Copperhead311th
12-20-2007, 09:16 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BfHeFwMe:
http://www.ionsgarage.com/site/gfx/levitate1.jpg

Behold the pull of the moon. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

WTF! Why are all those men squating on invisible boxes?

Kauzio
12-20-2007, 09:18 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DuxCorvan:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by raaaid:
yeah i witnessed it my self though it could be a false memory, i remember having levitated as a child </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Do you remember an unicorn? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/2/26/275px-BladeRunner_Unicorn1.jpg
http://www.cafardcosmique.com/IMG/jpg/Fiery_Eye.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I watched that film (for the first time) in HD earlier this week.

I've already seen quite a few references to it throughout the internets in just a few days. Quite surprising to me.