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SkyChimp
11-07-2005, 07:12 PM
Or just a snazzy dresser?

SkyChimp
11-07-2005, 07:12 PM
Or just a snazzy dresser?

georgeo76
11-07-2005, 07:17 PM
He wasn't god, god just spoke to him directly with instructions on how to best run the country.

no, wait, I'm thinking of someone else.

SkyChimp
11-07-2005, 07:19 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by georgeo76:
He wasn't god, god just spoke to him directly with instructions on how to best run the country.

no, wait, I'm thinking of someone else. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

But who gave him fashion advice? And where did he learn to dance like that?

MLudner
11-07-2005, 07:20 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SkyChimp:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by georgeo76:
He wasn't god, god just spoke to him directly with instructions on how to best run the country.

no, wait, I'm thinking of someone else. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

But who gave him fashion advice? And where did he learn to dance like that? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Taco.

SkyChimp
11-07-2005, 07:22 PM
That's nice, but it doesn't explain that *****in' tatoo

MLudner
11-07-2005, 07:33 PM
Eminem and Puff Daddy.

horseback
11-07-2005, 07:35 PM
Au contraire. You're all terribly wrong.It was all those Fred Astaire movies.

cheers

horseback

Feathered_IV
11-07-2005, 07:43 PM
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MLudner
11-07-2005, 07:44 PM
Fred Astaire?! Fred Astaire!?
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THAT is soooo gouche!

Gene Kelly would be the only one for Emperor Hirohito, since he was Singin' In The Rain .... of iron bombs.

SkyChimp
11-07-2005, 07:45 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Feathered_IV:
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Daiichidoku
11-07-2005, 07:48 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SkyChimp:
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MLudner
11-07-2005, 07:53 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Daiichidoku:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SkyChimp:
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horseback
11-07-2005, 07:59 PM
This is starting to look disturbingly like an old Monty Python bit...

cheers

horseback

SkyChimp
11-07-2005, 07:59 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MLudner:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Daiichidoku:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SkyChimp:
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MLudner
11-07-2005, 08:01 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SkyChimp:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MLudner:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Daiichidoku:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SkyChimp:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Feathered_IV:
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horseback
11-07-2005, 08:12 PM
Eggs

cheers

horseback

LEBillfish
11-07-2005, 08:26 PM
Divine?......Not even Dreamy.....

However when I used to play Mystery Date I never got the Frat boy or even the dud....Would have almost been glad for a Hirohito as I always got stuck with Adolf http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

MLudner
11-07-2005, 08:27 PM
A box without hinges key or lid, yet inside golden treasure is hid.

ImpStarDuece
11-07-2005, 08:29 PM
Honestly, this thread is
A) entirely stupid, and
B) entirely disrespectful of another cultures beliefs


The Japanese, much like many other ancient and feudal cultures, based the rule of their soverign off a divine right. The Germanic and Gallic and Anglo-Saxons all based the right of the king and royal line to rule around the "divine right of kings". The Chinese had the "madate of heaven", whereby the moral authority to rule was bestowed upon the Emperor by an all-pervasive power. The Egyptians believed in similar a divinity of their rulers as did the Romans.

In the case of Japan, it was the belief that the first Japanese emperor was a descendant of the sun goddess Ameratsu Omikami. All of his line were therefore considered descendants of a heavenly being. They were considered to be contacted and inspired by the gods. However, despite the popular myth that arose in the 1930's, the Meiji Restoration did not name the Emperor as kami (god), nor give him any status as a divine being.

In actuality, the Emperor, nor the institution of the Imperial Household, never claimed divinity. Hirohito, like all Japanese emperors, was only worshiped 'like' a god, not 'as' a god. There were ultra nationalist elements in Japan who siezed on the nihonjinron and Yamatojin myths and taught that the Emperor was akitsu mikami, or a manifested spirit whose actions were a direct link to the kami. However, the Emperor was never though of as a god, just descended from Ameretsu and accorded the status appropriate to that.

Hawgdog
11-07-2005, 08:34 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MLudner:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SkyChimp:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MLudner:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Daiichidoku:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SkyChimp:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Feathered_IV:
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now i aint saying she a gold digger, but she aint messing with no broke rear gunner
get down girl down go 'head, get down girl

Badsight.
11-07-2005, 09:17 PM
i dont know about Devine

but if he didnt go to the loo he would have been full of . . . . .

Daiichidoku
11-08-2005, 01:10 AM
Was Hirohito really Divine?

I dunno....you be the judge

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/Daiichidoku/180px-Hiro2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/Daiichidoku/divinedogs.jpg


take away those glasses, and medals, add a couple of dogs...safe to say the myth is confirmed



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partic_3
11-08-2005, 01:20 AM
Spewin', Daiichidoku, you beat me to it!
But it is funny and sad the way just about every troop of apes thinks they're the special, "chosen" apes.
One thing is for sure, God has a stunning sense of irony!

chchfool
11-08-2005, 03:34 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SkyChimp:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by georgeo76:
He wasn't god, god just spoke to him directly with instructions on how to best run the country.

no, wait, I'm thinking of someone else. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

But who gave him fashion advice? And where did he learn to dance like that? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

This question has a simple answer. The day to day life of the imperial family and provision of services such as the selection of clothes and scheduling of dance lessons is the responsibility of the imperial agency, a section of the japanese government under the direct authority of the prime minister.

Regarding the emperors divine origin, that would depend on who you ask. Yoshinori Kobayashi or the staff of Yasukuni shrine would definately say yes.

chchfool
11-08-2005, 04:01 AM
on a more serious note....

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ImpStarDuece:
Honestly, this thread is
A) entirely stupid, and
B) entirely disrespectful of another cultures beliefs


The Japanese, much like many other ancient and feudal cultures, based the rule of their soverign off a divine right. The Germanic and Gallic and Anglo-Saxons all based the right of the king and royal line to rule around the "divine right of kings". The Chinese had the "madate of heaven", whereby the moral authority to rule was bestowed upon the Emperor by an all-pervasive power. The Egyptians believed in similar a divinity of their rulers as did the Romans.

In the case of Japan, it was the belief that the first Japanese emperor was a descendant of the sun goddess Ameratsu Omikami. All of his line were therefore considered descendants of a heavenly being. They were considered to be contacted and inspired by the gods. However, despite the popular myth that arose in the 1930's, the Meiji Restoration did not name the Emperor as kami (god), nor give him any status as a divine being.

In actuality, the Emperor, nor the institution of the Imperial Household, never claimed divinity. Hirohito, like all Japanese emperors, was only worshiped 'like' a god, not 'as' a god. There were ultra nationalist elements in Japan who siezed on the nihonjinron and Yamatojin myths and taught that the Emperor was akitsu mikami, or a manifested spirit whose actions were a direct link to the kami. However, the Emperor was never though of as a god, just descended from Ameretsu and accorded the status appropriate to that. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

your post is a very reasonable summary of the position of the emperor in Japanese society but I think you obscure the imperial family and esp. the emperor's role in japanese in japanese society. The emperor still seems to be a potent and central figure with regards to Japanese nationalism and the perpetuation of the existing power structure in Japan.

Anyway, I think this could be an interesting topic for discussion on another board...


----edited for spelling

ViktorViktor
11-08-2005, 04:34 AM
Of course He must have been divine, or else MacArthur would have been able to execute him for war crimes, like all those Japanese military honchos!

But he didn't look like no god.

Feathered_IV
11-08-2005, 06:12 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">But who gave him fashion advice? And where did he learn to dance like that? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


I much prefer your Sit 'n Spin President Roosevelt myself. If only you'd had two. You could have raced them.

neural_dream
11-08-2005, 06:27 AM
http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/british/images/fdrchurchill.jpg

Alright Ike,

but only one

Ankanor
11-08-2005, 06:30 AM
If McArthur had tried to execute the Emperor, the whole of Japan would rise against him. Especially when you take into account that accusing the emperor for the japanese army's atrocities is extremely short-sighted and a fine example of, sorry to say it, redneck-ness.

arjisme
11-08-2005, 06:56 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ImpStarDuece:
Honestly, this thread is
A) entirely stupid, and
B) entirely disrespectful of another cultures beliefs


The Japanese, much like many other ancient and feudal cultures, based the rule of their soverign off a divine right. The Germanic and Gallic and Anglo-Saxons all based the right of the king and royal line to rule around the "divine right of kings". The Chinese had the "madate of heaven", whereby the moral authority to rule was bestowed upon the Emperor by an all-pervasive power. The Egyptians believed in similar a divinity of their rulers as did the Romans. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>OK, let's lump them together then:

The
- Japanese
- Germans
- Gauls
- Anglo-Saxons
- Chinese
- Egyptians
- Romans
- Americans (i.e. Bush)
(not an exclusive list)
were/are all moronic for thinking their rulers were divine or directly connected to divinity.

Better now?

neural_dream
11-08-2005, 07:21 AM
http://www.tribute.ca/tribute_objects/images/movies/bedazzled/bedazzled3.jpg

I don't know about Hirohito,
but Liz Hurley is divine

LEBillfish
11-08-2005, 07:40 AM
uh oh......I just noticed that sudden rash of "That Guys".... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

BSS_Goat
11-08-2005, 07:54 AM
I thought it was "those guys"?

waffen-79
11-08-2005, 07:58 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by neural_dream:
http://www.tribute.ca/tribute_objects/images/movies/bedazzled/bedazzled3.jpg

I don't know about Hirohito,
but Liz Hurley is divine </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Now! we're talking... ND

leadbaloon
11-08-2005, 10:13 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by neural_dream:
http://www.tribute.ca/tribute_objects/images/movies/bedazzled/bedazzled3.jpg

I don't know about Hirohito,
but Liz Hurley is divine </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



I think Hugh Grant would disagree...

MLudner
11-08-2005, 10:40 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ImpStarDuece:
Honestly, this thread is
A) entirely stupid, and
B) entirely disrespectful of another cultures beliefs


The Japanese, much like many other ancient and feudal cultures, based the rule of their soverign off a divine right. The Germanic and Gallic and Anglo-Saxons all based the right of the king and royal line to rule around the "divine right of kings". The Chinese had the "madate of heaven", whereby the moral authority to rule was bestowed upon the Emperor by an all-pervasive power. The Egyptians believed in similar a divinity of their rulers as did the Romans.

In the case of Japan, it was the belief that the first Japanese emperor was a descendant of the sun goddess Ameratsu Omikami. All of his line were therefore considered descendants of a heavenly being. They were considered to be contacted and inspired by the gods. However, despite the popular myth that arose in the 1930's, the Meiji Restoration did not name the Emperor as kami (god), nor give him any status as a divine being.

In actuality, the Emperor, nor the institution of the Imperial Household, never claimed divinity. Hirohito, like all Japanese emperors, was only worshiped 'like' a god, not 'as' a god. There were ultra nationalist elements in Japan who siezed on the nihonjinron and Yamatojin myths and taught that the Emperor was akitsu mikami, or a manifested spirit whose actions were a direct link to the kami. However, the Emperor was never though of as a god, just descended from Ameretsu and accorded the status appropriate to that. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You know, with all due regard and respect, Imperial Star Deuce, but that is just pure, unadulterated, excruciating PC Barbra Streisand.

If this thread had been poking even serious fun or full-blown insults at Adolf Hitler, Joseph Goebbels, Hermann Goering, Heinrich Himmler, and / or Benito Mussolini you would not have come here saying we were insulting German, Austrian and Italian culture, would you have?
No. In other posts - some of them mine - they have been ridiculed and you had squat to say about it; nary even a whisper of an objection. Where's your sensitivity to their, poor beleagered cultures?
Oh, yeah, they're not on the PC sympathy list. Wrong race.

NO ONE here was poking fun at the Japanese, nor were we even making any serious fun of Hirohito. In fact, there was no mention of the Japanese themselves until you came along. It was an entirely frivolous ribbing, and nothing more. Hirohito never would have borne a tatoo, for example, the whole idea was in and of itself just silly. That was the entire point.

Your post is very informative about Japanese culture, thank you for that. However, the Romans can only be marginally included, for they did not hold the First Citizen (PRINCEPS) as divine until after he had died. Only at the end of their Pantheistic ( http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif to Neural_Dream) era did they start treating their PRINCEPS as divine while he lived.

I mean no offense, but your post ruffled about every feather I have. So, if you have taken any I apologize.

Fliegeroffizier
11-08-2005, 11:06 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ar****e:
OK, let's lump them together then:

The
- Japanese
- Germans
- Gauls
- Anglo-Saxons
- Chinese
- Egyptians
- Romans
- Americans (i.e. Bush)
(not an exclusive list)
were/are all moronic for thinking their rulers were divine or directly connected to divinity.

Better now? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

How about a very small religious/political sect in Judea about 2000 years ago and their political leader?....Just an observation.

arjisme
11-08-2005, 12:36 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Fliegeroffizier:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ar****e:
OK, let's lump them together then:

The
- Japanese
- Germans
- Gauls
- Anglo-Saxons
- Chinese
- Egyptians
- Romans
- Americans (i.e. Bush)
(not an exclusive list)
were/are all moronic for thinking their rulers were divine or directly connected to divinity.

Better now? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

How about a very small religious/political sect in Judea about 2000 years ago and their political leader?....Just an observation. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Add it to the list. That's why I included the caveat "(not an exclusive list)". And, the inclusion of Bush kindof covers that too.

Monson74
11-08-2005, 01:04 PM
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LStarosta
11-08-2005, 01:26 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hawgdog:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MLudner:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SkyChimp:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MLudner:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Daiichidoku:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SkyChimp:
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now i aint saying she a gold digger, but she aint messing with no broke rear gunner
get down girl down go 'head, get down girl </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

LMFAO

blazer-glory
11-08-2005, 03:50 PM
Apparently his mum thought so.

p1ngu666
11-08-2005, 04:37 PM
iirec he wasnt involved in the wartime stuff to any great amount, hardly at all. japan had quite a few prime ministers thru the war