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CAF96th_Sillyak
12-29-2006, 12:03 PM
reperations would have been a bad idea, reperations from WWI were a factor leading to WWII.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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ploughman
12-29-2006, 12:05 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by StG2_Schlachter:
Well, I am glad that Germany doesn't pay any reperations (don't get me wrong, maybe it should). That would be our financial doom. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Reperations were paid to Israel.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Bo_Nidle
12-29-2006, 12:06 PM
Nice to be debt free.the big question now is what will Teflon Tony do with the spare cash in 2007?
He'll have more money than he knows what to do with when you factor in the bribes for peerages he took as well! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">



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Steven190
12-29-2006, 12:24 PM
That's Great

I am just wondering what we did with the money.

It probably went into that Balckhole we call the government.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Xiolablu3
12-29-2006, 12:32 PM
Thanks mates for the good loan http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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OMK_Hand
12-29-2006, 12:50 PM
Shhhhh... Don't say it too loud or they'll want what we still owe from the first war....<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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JG53Harti
12-29-2006, 01:01 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by StG2_Schlachter:
Well, I am glad that Germany doesn't pay any reperations (don't get me wrong, maybe it should). That would be our financial doom. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

doch wurde bezahlt, schau dir mal die ganzen DDR-Sachen an, die nach die UdSSR gingen....<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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MarkSynthesis
12-29-2006, 01:11 PM
While I can't understand what wsa said above, he makes a valid point: the USSR did extract reparations from its occupation zone (in the form of machinery and equipment).

Then again, the Eastern Front was a very different war than faced by the western allies against Germany.

JG53Harti
12-29-2006, 01:36 PM
that`s what i wrote<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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boxmike
12-29-2006, 02:38 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JG53Harti:
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doch wurde bezahlt, schau dir mal die ganzen DDR-Sachen an, die nach die UdSSR gingen.... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Personally, I really could have chosen Patton to enter Berlin first, no guarantee for anything of course but http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

To original post; Great news. I hope people understand the meaning of those loans.

What I hate in new world: It has forgotten it's battles, pun intended. For example there's this small news in telly about something that happened over 60 years ago; next day fellows in coffee break are asking: ya know, there was this war thingy and ya seem to know, ya interested in this war thingy, weren't ya? Tell us...What I tell them? I tell them, Ah, you see, unbeknowst to ya, some nice fellows, also from Germany, saved this country from being invaded by Soviets during 1944. Then we agreed to armistice with Soviets and had to turn our guns against same Germans that were helping us earlier, this country OR Soviets were to do it according the agreement. And then this country paid some debts to Soviets until 1952, when to year 1940 originally planned Olympic Games entered Helsinki. There were some small problems during 1940 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

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JSG72
12-29-2006, 02:39 PM
Just heard the news Today and was left feeling Deja Vu.

Someone posted a thread on this Last year! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Caused a right old political Barney. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif

MB_Avro_UK
12-29-2006, 04:01 PM
Hi all,

We Brits must give credit to US President Roosevelt who gave aid to Britain in 1940.

This was before the US entered WW2 in late 1941 as a result of the Pearl Harbor attack by the Japanese.

Roosevelt faced political opposition at home to aiding Britain. However, US warships helped escort British supply convoys across the Atlantic before the US was officially at war with Germany.

Hundreds of US sailors died as a result of U-Boat attacks.

So, it was not only financial aid.

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

boxmike
12-29-2006, 04:09 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MB_Avro_UK:
Hi all,

We Brits must give credit to US President Roosevelt who gave aid to Britain in 1940.

This was before the US entered WW2 in late 1941 as a result of the Pearl Harbor attack by the Japanese.

Roosevelt faced political opposition at home to aiding Britain. However, US warships helped escort British supply convoys across the Atlantic before the US was officially at war with Germany.

Hundreds of US sailors died as a result of U-Boat attacks.

So, it was not only financial aid.

Best Regards,
MB_Avro. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

USS Reuben James.

Rgds,
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Walter Mitty from Hell.

StG2_Schlachter
12-29-2006, 04:14 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JG53Harti:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by StG2_Schlachter:
Well, I am glad that Germany doesn't pay any reperations (don't get me wrong, maybe it should). That would be our financial doom. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

doch wurde bezahlt, schau dir mal die ganzen DDR-Sachen an, die nach die UdSSR gingen.... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MarkSynthesis:
While I can't understand what wsa said above, he makes a valid point: the USSR did extract reparations from its occupation zone (in the form of machinery and equipment).

Then again, the Eastern Front was a very different war than faced by the western allies against Germany. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, they took it. I meant paying reperations like after WW1. But sorry for kind of hi-jacking this thread.

It's good to be debt free http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Hanglands
12-30-2006, 08:44 AM
Hi,

I know the restored/replica 262s from the 262 Project have been posted here many times, aspecially after one flew at the Berlin Airshow this year.

Ive just been flying the Me-163 single mission, and it reminded me to look up what happened to the 163s that were taken to the UK and USA after the war.

In my search I found this nice little site. (http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Erobdebie/me163.htm)

I found the XCOR Proposal page interesting, and looked them up, THIS (http://xcor.com/me163.html) is what I found.

Sorry if this is old news, but what a great thing it would be to see!

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Hanglands
12-30-2006, 08:44 AM
Hi,

I know the restored/replica 262s from the 262 Project have been posted here many times, aspecially after one flew at the Berlin Airshow this year.

Ive just been flying the Me-163 single mission, and it reminded me to look up what happened to the 163s that were taken to the UK and USA after the war.

In my search I found this nice little site. (http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Erobdebie/me163.htm)

I found the XCOR Proposal page interesting, and looked them up, THIS (http://xcor.com/me163.html) is what I found.

Sorry if this is old news, but what a great thing it would be to see!

Regards.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Rudeljaeger
12-30-2006, 08:55 AM
In Germany at least one Replica is flying...



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Rood-Zwart
12-30-2006, 08:58 AM
great to see it fly, but that red... awful!<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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DarkWingDuck...
12-30-2006, 09:00 AM
Me and three other "lucky" volunteers had to push the me163 from one end of St Athan air base to the other (no ttug coupling available), I heard it was later presented to the germans....not before the painters scribbled a few
"nice messages" whilst still in primer...someones not gonna be too happy when they strip it for a new coat..hehe
p.s., IIRC, at the time it was generaly held as being only surviving example...are the

RocketDog
12-30-2006, 09:29 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Rood-Zwart:
great to see it fly, but that red... awful! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

IIRC, on the first Me-163 combat mission the lead aircraft was painted red. A sort of Richtofen homage?

RD.

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DuxCorvan
12-30-2006, 09:30 AM
Prototype, and first operational use. And yes, a sort of brief Richthofen homage. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Look for 13 may 1944:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~robdebie/me163/production.htm (http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Erobdebie/me163/production.htm)

Haigotron
12-30-2006, 10:06 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">not before the painters scribbled a few
"nice messages" whilst still in primer...someones not gonna be too happy when they strip it for a new coat..hehe </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

well thats not nice...this has severly twisted my gentle mind...

does the red one fly with the same technology as the real one? (of course from nowadays technology) i dont see any exhaust coming out<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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trumper
12-30-2006, 10:10 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gifDunkelgrun did a Komet single player campaign,not sure if it has been updated to play in the newer versions of the game.

DuxCorvan
12-30-2006, 10:13 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Haigotron:
does the red one fly with the same technology as the real one? (of course from nowadays technology) i dont see any exhaust coming out </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It flies with Oleg's AI technology. Hence, it does not need any powerplant to climb and climb. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Rudeljaeger
12-30-2006, 10:24 AM
It just sails, but I at the ILA I heard they want to include a rocket engine, like the one used in some civil rocket planes.

DarkWingDuck...
12-30-2006, 11:31 AM
Haig..dont worry I dont think it was anything too heavy...more a sort of homage to the graffiti that was a part of plane personalisation during service....
... and we were a bit pissed of that we were giving it back http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

QUACK

Viper2005_
12-30-2006, 11:54 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Rudeljaeger:
It just sails, but I at the ILA I heard they want to include a rocket engine, like the one used in some civil rocket planes. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Just a glider eh?

Excellent! At last, a high performance WWII fighter I could legally fly on my GPL! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Platypus_1.JaVA
12-30-2006, 12:13 PM
This plane rooooooxxxxxx http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif

There is one single mission with the komet in Il-2. I once took out no less then 4(!) bombers with it!. Just aim for the wing and squeeze off a few rounds. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

But I must admit that last bomber became the victim of me when I flew my left wing in his left wing. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif

Both the B-17 crew and I bailed out safely. Back on the ground, I immediatly pointed my Luger at them and kept them under arrest until I was relieved by the SS who took them to prison. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Rudeljaeger
12-30-2006, 12:15 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Viper2005_:


Just a glider eh?

Excellent! At last, a high performance WWII fighter I could legally fly on my GPL! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah...Until they include the engine of this plane in the Me163:

http://www.richard-seaman.com/Wallpaper/Aircraft/Civil/RocketPlane.jpg

KG66_Gog
12-30-2006, 03:10 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DarkWingDuck...:
Me and three other "lucky" volunteers had to push the me163 from one end of St Athan air base to the other (no ttug coupling available), I heard it was later presented to the germans....not before the painters scribbled a few
"nice messages" whilst still in primer...someones not gonna be too happy when they strip it for a new coat..hehe
p.s., IIRC, at the time it was generaly held as being only surviving example...are there more? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, there is one in the Australian War Memorial in Canberra. It's in very good condition too! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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p-11.cAce
12-30-2006, 03:19 PM
The USAF museum in Dayton Ohio has a beautiful B model - I have some pics someplace of it but until then here is their link - USAF Komet (http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet_print.asp?fsID=508&page=1)

Ugly_Kid
12-30-2006, 03:29 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KG66_Gog:
Yes, there is one in the Australian War Memorial in Canberra. It's in very good condition too! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well there is one in Deutsches Museum in Munich

http://koti.mbnet.fi/hausberg/HPIM0092.JPG

along with Walter rocket (the beige tail unit with red rocket booster is from Natter):


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