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Ragmarok99
04-06-2011, 02:07 PM
First of all thanks ubisoft for this awesome multiplayer in everything except for this:
-The need to unlock ports to find games(altough it worked for me it doesnt for some other people i know)
-No option to vote kick or nothing to see the ping
-No other chat option except for a voice chat that anybody can hear... wich is awesome for team modes in public matches since my oponent will never hear me right?
-And the stupid matchmaking system that might work fine on consoles but you still didn't manage to find out it sucks in the PC

Now here is the main problem, alot of you guys problably already experiencied it and its called lag... wich in this game is benefitial for the lagger, i was in a match were half of the people were lagging me and other 2 were playing smoothly but still the laggers just "teleport" all over the place and i got killed a few times trying to stun a pursuer in a smoke bomb that was actualy behind me instead of in front of me where he was suposed to be when i "stunned" him. Another case is when you are near your target and he just teleports from your front to a few meters forward and again and again with a running annimation frozen.

Alot of people say this: matchmaking systems SUCK for the PC, Call of Duty Noob Warfare 2 proved it, not only because of the lag, but because of the lack of admins wich in this case would be needed to remove those laggy bastards that are almost impossible to catch from the game.

Ragmarok99
04-06-2011, 02:33 PM
i also forgot this:
-4 vs 2 games because "balanced" teams are cool
edit: dedicated servers = admins to balance them or auto balance teams...(except if the team with 4 guys is an entire party)

PS: if you vote No please be kind to show your point of view because i think there is almost no reason for the actual system to be what it is needed

DragynfyreX
04-06-2011, 06:43 PM
For this game I don't believe it's necessary because of the low player count in each game.

A couple of your gripes with the matchmaking system can be fixed without having to go to dedicated servers. They could make it so we can see ping in game pretty easily (if you can see those bars in CoD how hard could it be to turn those bars into actual numbers?)

Chat options can also be implemented with matchmaking.

Also the slow matchmaking process is likely just due to the smaller PC community.

monkeyuncle8
04-06-2011, 07:41 PM
Originally posted by Ragmarok99:
i also forgot this:
-4 vs 2 games because "balanced" teams are cool
edit: dedicated servers = admins to balance them or auto balance teams...(except if the team with 4 guys is an entire party)
is needed
the 4 vs 2 is becuase of players choice, it has nothing to do with lag

also some of the reason that causes lag is that other people's internet suck, and ubisoft cant fix that, but we need dedicated servers, I hate it when the host quites

DragynfyreX
04-06-2011, 09:19 PM
Originally posted by monkeyuncle8:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ragmarok99:
i also forgot this:
-4 vs 2 games because "balanced" teams are cool
edit: dedicated servers = admins to balance them or auto balance teams...(except if the team with 4 guys is an entire party)
is needed
the 4 vs 2 is becuase of players choice, it has nothing to do with lag

also some of the reason that causes lag is that other people's internet suck, and ubisoft cant fix that, but we need dedicated servers, I hate it when the host quites </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Do you really think with the community for this game that there would be people who would actually rent dedicated servers for this game?

lIkameleonIl
04-07-2011, 12:41 AM
Strange question.

Do we think it worth having a more stable game, or a less stable game?

What do you think we want?

KlaymenDel
04-07-2011, 05:17 AM
We need some sort of a petition

Ragmarok99
04-07-2011, 11:36 AM
Originally posted by Dragynfyre0:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by monkeyuncle8:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ragmarok99:
i also forgot this:
-4 vs 2 games because "balanced" teams are cool
edit: dedicated servers = admins to balance them or auto balance teams...(except if the team with 4 guys is an entire party)
is needed
the 4 vs 2 is becuase of players choice, it has nothing to do with lag

also some of the reason that causes lag is that other people's internet suck, and ubisoft cant fix that, but we need dedicated servers, I hate it when the host quites </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Do you really think with the community for this game that there would be people who would actually rent dedicated servers for this game? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

well servers are expensive aren't they? my multigaming clan pays 8 euros for a 10 slots dedicated server like it is a huge waste of money since we pay a part of it each one

also i know games were communities aren't bigger than 100 people and there are quite a few dedicated servers for them

Ragmarok99
04-07-2011, 11:37 AM
Originally posted by monkeyuncle8:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ragmarok99:
i also forgot this:
-4 vs 2 games because "balanced" teams are cool
edit: dedicated servers = admins to balance them or auto balance teams...(except if the team with 4 guys is an entire party)
is needed
the 4 vs 2 is becuase of players choice, it has nothing to do with lag

also some of the reason that causes lag is that other people's internet suck, and ubisoft cant fix that, but we need dedicated servers, I hate it when the host quites </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

specialy because when the host is gone its game over it totaly sucks

also:

Originally posted by Ragmarok99:
i also forgot this:
-4 vs 2 games because "balanced" teams are cool
edit: dedicated servers = admins to balance them or auto balance teams...(except if the team with 4 guys is an entire party)
is needed

when i posted this it was pointing to the part of some things i didn't like in this game specialy no auto team balance(wich admins in a dedicated server can force)

kylebisme
04-08-2011, 01:26 AM
Originally posted by Dragynfyre0:
Do you really think with the community for this game that there would be people who would actually rent dedicated servers for this game?
Beyond the fact that server rental is cheap, a lot of people who work in internet and even some hobbyists just have the spare resources laying around to put up a server without really costing them anything more than what little power it draws.

Ragmarok99
04-08-2011, 10:23 AM
well im actualy quite surprised that anyone didn't voted no and mentioned the gametypes, wich would suck all for dedicated servers due to some of them needing at least 4 players to be playable, well we already have games modes for 2 players and even 3
2 players - assassination
3- players - alliance with 1 player minimum on each team
4 players - 2 players(minimum) vs 2 players(minimum) manhunts
6- players - wanted, escort and chest capture(the last 2 could have 2 vs 2 minimum but... then a "tatic" would be hard(like 1 in each vip or screw 1 vip and defending only the other)

Black_Widow9
04-08-2011, 01:39 PM
Please post this here-
Dedicated Servers (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5031067519/m/7191093719?r=8201026719#8201026719)
Thanks http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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