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St0rm_5had0w
10-04-2007, 04:57 AM
I've been watching gameplay videos and everyone Altair looks out turns bright white to show that thats who your targeting. I really hope thats not the way the final build will be. It looks so lame to me. If they do leave it that way I hope they at least give you the option to turn it off.

Any thoughts on what a better option for targeting would be?

St0rm_5had0w
10-04-2007, 04:57 AM
I've been watching gameplay videos and everyone Altair looks out turns bright white to show that thats who your targeting. I really hope thats not the way the final build will be. It looks so lame to me. If they do leave it that way I hope they at least give you the option to turn it off.

Any thoughts on what a better option for targeting would be?

avsrule247
10-04-2007, 05:20 AM
Would you rather have a red arrow on top of your target? This new targeting is new and you don't even know how it works. How about you rate the targeting after the game comes out?

rogue_tom
10-04-2007, 06:23 AM
Why would we have to play the game when we've seen it in alot of videos already?

I don't like it. They've created this wonderful, realistic game and it seems messed up with the targeting to me. It think a better way would be to have him look at the person he targts or have a very slight change in tint of the target. The targeting we have now is too much.

seasamstraat
10-04-2007, 06:47 AM
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i prefer nothing because you can see youre target without an blue thing. In real life people dont see something around or above an person so they know what their target is. It makes it less realistic. I hope you can turn it off. I hope it will be like in the xo6 demo. And if you will be able to choose between that blue thing and an red arrow i would chose the red arrow because you dont see it so good

ScytheOfGrim
10-04-2007, 06:56 AM
to answer your first question, yes, that is the targetting system and it will be like that in the final build.

now, to those that think it looks "lame" because it "pulls you out of the crusader era", (nobody here said it yet, but someone will...) well too bad.

deal with it.

i incredibly highly doubt that the devs are even going to take changing it into consideration.

we don't know exactly how the counters and battle system will work, and because of this, we can't decide if it is good or not. thre might be something really important about timing and what not, and if Altair is looking at one guy, and not the other, it might make a huge de=ifferene in the outcome if you know who is being targetted and who isn't.

you may think it is ugly, i may think it is amazingly beautiful.
just a bunch of opinions, really.

why should the devs listen to the fact that you don't like it and not to the fact that i love it?

seasamstraat
10-04-2007, 07:11 AM
Ok maby there has to be somehting so you can see who youre target is but why so much. Couldnt they just do an little blue point above youre targets head. Or how it now is but without those sings around the target. But I still like this game though only i think that they overreacted about the future element.

ScytheOfGrim
10-04-2007, 07:16 AM
oh, well... that's the way they designed it, so that's the way we'll play it! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

just imagine that Altair halucinates, and therefore, the game being from his perspective, you see all the crazy things he sees! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Freefall69
10-04-2007, 07:45 AM
Some will have read about the 'matrix style' back story that has been rumoured to play a big part in the story. That you are apparently playing as though acting out the memories found from the genes of the assassin. Basically in the future, they have the technology to look at some1's genes and find memories and see them on screen or through some1 else mind. this hasnt been confirmed but i think its the most likely. It would explain the pause screen that occured at the end of the e3 demo and also the background behind jade in another interview. i am not saying this is the case. If so, i think it makes the lock very fitting, its a good mix of the crusade fitting with a mix of futuristic technology. as though the computer generates info on the person altair was concentrating on. On a previous post some said he may have been hilucinating, this could be the case as assassins were oringaly known as Hashshashins because they took hashish before carrying out the act with is a kinda like todays canabis. Hence they hollucination...I think it looks kewl, i guess they could make it less obvious looking though

AirRon_2K7
10-04-2007, 08:31 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rogue_tom:
Why would we have to play the game when we've seen it in alot of videos already?

I don't like it. They've created this wonderful, realistic game and it seems messed up with the targeting to me. It think a better way would be to have him look at the person he targts or have a very slight change in tint of the target. The targeting we have now is too much. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>0

shh, I agree with Scythe on this one. This isn't meant to simply be a game set in the crusades, the targeting system isn't pointless and besides its only there for a second or two. Its got alot to do with the actual game, so stop moaning, I seriously doubt you'll be able to turn it off, if it bothers you so much, let me introduce you to the X button at the top right of your screen.

ScytheOfGrim
10-04-2007, 08:43 AM
haha! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

@anthony:
what i said about the halucination was a joke, it was sarcasm. the Hashashins never took hash. that is only a myth.
P.S. better hear it nicely from me than have that lion (moqqy) actually (and i mean actually) eat you apart! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

haha! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif
hey Air... what happens if i click on that lovely little "X"? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Robbinho1992
10-04-2007, 08:43 AM
In a recent Interview, Jad Raymond said her self that the targeting is here to stay. It isnt to much, and are you lot forgetting that it still is a game, and the futuristic HUd was what they were going for, as the game maybe set in the 3rd crusade, but the Whole Trilliogy/Saga is going trhoug a computer or whatever.. Just stop moaning.

the maxz
10-04-2007, 08:53 AM
but in this interview patrice said that now its only a small arrow
http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=3750067556517963...ype=search&plindex=0 (http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=3750067556517963801&q=assassin%27s+creed+interview+28+september&total=4&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0)

he says it at 2.22 minutes

ScytheOfGrim
10-04-2007, 09:02 AM
haha! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

no he didn't!
he said that they added a small arrow, including the highlighting! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Thumper1980
10-04-2007, 09:24 AM
dkdfkjkjkjkdek;


Sorry, that was my head hitting the keyboard.

the maxz
10-04-2007, 09:26 AM
ow sorry. than I understude it wrong

but when u look at the footage you can see that you can turn off the locking system

saros.exe
10-04-2007, 09:42 AM
I really dig these sci-fi things. It makes this game special in that way. And also if the sequel will be in present time this would make sense and unite the two games.

St0rm_5had0w
10-04-2007, 09:47 AM
To avsrul247:

1. Red arrow instead. Yes please.

2. I do know how it works. Hit youtube and you will too.

3. Rating the targeting after the game comes out will be pointless. I've been buying Ubi games for a while now, and I know that once they have our money they don't care about what we think.
(Not that they really care all that much to begin with)

To ScytheOfGrim:
1. I don't care that it "pulls you out of the crusades era" I'd just like to be able to admire the great detail they put into the models and texture work on the charcters without the eye-wrenching glowing, and I don't want to have to be out of combat to do so.

2. The devs should listen to us both and make it optional. Why? Because they want both our respective moneys.

I never said do away with the targeting system, but as anthony687uk said, they could make it less obvious and less pervasive.

A.B.O.Y
10-04-2007, 10:14 AM
In the latest vids they have toned the targeting system down which I think looks ok.

AirRon_2K7
10-04-2007, 10:25 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ScytheOfGrim:
haha! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif
hey Air... what happens if i click on that lovely little "X"? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It kills Jade and Patrice, and it turns off the targeting system, but only temporarily, if you want it permanently, you need to download a trojan with you anti-virus software off.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

seasamstraat
10-04-2007, 10:47 AM
I really agree with storm

maulsl
10-04-2007, 10:50 AM
well I have an Idea for a targeting system all opinions welcome.

Depending on who is priority in a fight, all those surrounding Altair including the surroundings become blurred.
Whoever your focus is on is crisp and clear. This would represent the awareness your character has on any impending attack and would allow you, the player to "intuitively" know who the focus is currently on or who is currently attacking.

As other soldiers begin to attack you become aware of that NPC as well which brings that character into focus allowing you to counter him. This would play on and off depending on who is still alive, and who is currently attacking.

Just an idea... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/typing.gif

Karl_93
10-04-2007, 10:53 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> dkdfkjkjkjkdek;


Sorry, that was my head hitting the keyboard. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

@ thumper. wow i never new you could type, "dkdfkjkjkdek; with your head... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif the keys seem pretty far apart

membernametaken
10-04-2007, 10:56 AM
You have no idea how the game plays, at all. All you know is what you've read and what you've watched. You have no idea if the game would be complete **** if the targeting system was not like that.

There's a fine line that Ubi has to tread when making things realistic AND playable, at the same time.

Think about it...

Switchb1ade
10-04-2007, 01:47 PM
Personally, I kinda like the targeting system....I mean, its not perfect, but it's nice. Plus there's no perfect way to simluate a mind calculating options or focus on a certain person....

AirRon_2K7
10-04-2007, 02:00 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by St0rm_5had0w:
To avsrul247:

1. Red arrow instead. Yes please.

2. I do know how it works. Hit youtube and you will too.

3. Rating the targeting after the game comes out will be pointless. I've been buying Ubi games for a while now, and I know that once they have our money they don't care about what we think.
(Not that they really care all that much to begin with)

To ScytheOfGrim:
1. I don't care that it "pulls you out of the crusades era" I'd just like to be able to admire the great detail they put into the models and texture work on the charcters without the eye-wrenching glowing, and I don't want to have to be out of combat to do so.

2. The devs should listen to us both and make it optional. Why? Because they want both our respective moneys.

I never said do away with the targeting system, but as anthony687uk said, they could make it less obvious and less pervasive. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes they do want 'out respective money' but are you seriously telling me you won't get the game because of the targeting system? if you are, then you're cracked. A red arrow would be even more cra p. Everyone's cussing it as if the glow is ALWAYS there, its not it flashes temporarily to let you know who you're looking at. Reviewing the system after the game is out is NOT pointless, because it could bloody well have something to do with the story, and don't say it doesn't, unless you prove to us that you are Patrice. They did what THEY thought was best, or maybe even just what THEY wanted, its their bloody game and as you can see, the oppinion is pretty well divided between 'screw it' and 'keep it', they can't cater for everyone's needs. Even if it does become optional (which will help the moaners) there will be other things that bug you, like the other glyphs and glitches, or possibly the eagle vision will piss you off to...

saros.exe
10-04-2007, 02:25 PM
And besides, there are so many aspects that people want to be optional so they could enjoy a game just like they want it to be.
Optional map, optional hud, optional health system, optional blood and gore and optinal red vs white arrow, and optinal sci-fi glitches, and optional energy wall dividers between areas, and optional modern menu or crusade style menu.... Wow, the options list would be like 20 screens long.
And if you dislike AC ONLY cuz it has these sci-fi glitches when targeting and white arrow above ur targets head instead of a red one, but you do admire the total awesomness of the game, and if you let this little aspect of the gameplay affect your decision on buying the game, then you are cracked indeed

AirRon_2K7
10-04-2007, 02:36 PM
Haha, "you are cracked indeed" :P

Zain0
10-04-2007, 08:16 PM
I would agree with you that the targeting system looks really really crappy if you were talking about the E3 2007 video, if you look in the newest vids, its barely even noticeable, it really does not look that bad anymore, it looks fine.

mefninja
10-04-2007, 08:43 PM
personally.. id like this game minus the sci fi setting.. but at the same time i dont kno hwo the sci fi plays in.. i may love it.. personally in the end i still love this game to death with the knowledge of the sci fi effects

moonsongv1
10-05-2007, 08:35 AM
Bottom line is the game has to be playable. Sometimes to make a game playable you need to add an effect. If the game has alot of people on the screen I want to know who the mark is. It's a video game after all. You can add all the realism in the world but after all is said and done it's a game and needs to be playable. If this is what the devs decided on to make the game as smooth as possible then so be it. I don't want a game to be frustrating unlike some of you sadomasachist gamers out there.

zeldapsychology
10-05-2007, 08:24 PM
I agree it kind of takes away from the historic aspect but you must remember this also has sci-fi elements which seems like a cool movie effect.

cowboyonacid
10-05-2007, 09:29 PM
How about birds **** on the targets? That way it keeps the immersion. Oh please, it's a video game.

Faylinks
10-05-2007, 10:13 PM
i must say, i thought it was just for the trailer effect.. i dont like how it interfiers with the time eara.. the white around it.. ew

seasamstraat
10-06-2007, 01:34 AM
yeah it looks ugly http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Jade_Samurai
10-06-2007, 06:16 PM
The targeting system is fine, this may be an 'of the era' game but with the 'futuristic twist' to tie 9it in with the game play and not just the story line is great.
and anyway, with the super long range attacks, ie. assassins blade with jump n' stab and the throwing knifes you need an obvious targeting system or your going to kill the wrong person, and i dont think that this is a game where doing something by mistake is going to be a good thing!

MoveMeant
10-06-2007, 07:00 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jade_Samurai:
The targeting system is fine, this may be an 'of the era' game but with the 'futuristic twist' to tie 9it in with the game play and not just the story line is great.
and anyway, with the super long range attacks, ie. assassins blade with jump n' stab and the throwing knifes you need an obvious targeting system or your going to kill the wrong person, and i dont think that this is a game where doing something by mistake is going to be a good thing! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That would be an off the era notof the era.. but yeah there should be a target system.. but it shouldnt be that noticable, just lighting people that are targeted up a little bit. That would do it totally.
drop all that messy text around people..!

knife_X
10-06-2007, 07:17 PM
Who cares about the targeting system if it works good... god damn nerds on this forum. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

zgubilici
10-06-2007, 10:52 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif There is no need for such comments.
Keep the discussions clean in here, or the thread will be locked.

seasamstraat
10-07-2007, 02:27 AM
knife_x these forums are there to talk about assassins creed and it dont have to be positive things. so if people dont like the target system they want to talk about it. And maby some people dont like it when somebody say negative things about assassins creed but thats why this forum exist. so just let everybody give there opinion about the target system

Link-Dragon-Sla
10-08-2007, 10:32 AM
I for one love the system even if it dosent look good u ******s, ITS THE WAY THEY DESINED IT http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif DEAL WITH IT!!!!!!

ok the glow stuff w/e but u guys need to stop ur griping and go play the game. YES ITS OUT NOW ALLREADY. GET UR ASSES PLAYING IT!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

Phreaky_McGeek
10-08-2007, 10:36 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Link-Dragon-Sla:
I for one love the system even if it dosent look good u ******s, ITS THE WAY THEY DESINED IT http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif DEAL WITH IT!!!!!!

ok the glow stuff w/e but u guys need to stop ur griping and go play the game. YES ITS OUT NOW ALLREADY. GET UR ASSES PLAYING IT!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
*virtual slap*

I don't even see the purpose of getting so up-tight about such a tiny, quite possibly optional feature.

eliteassassin69
10-08-2007, 10:00 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by cowboyonacid:
How about birds **** on the targets? That way it keeps the immersion. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif I agree!! and it "doesnt ruin the era" I couldnt resist the temptetion and read the comic (slaps wrist) The game is about the future and its on the year the mayas prophecized the world would end (i think) (2012)