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skabbe
05-27-2005, 02:46 PM
hello, i dont know how oleg feels about people on he's bord recommending other flight simulator. But this one is so far from IL2 genre.
so here goes http://www.x-plane.com

if you like building planes this is the one. its very realistic. build an BF109 if you want, design its airfoils, set its horsepower, wings, drag, everything. if you have search for a aerodynamic program this can be something...

skabbe
05-27-2005, 02:46 PM
hello, i dont know how oleg feels about people on he's bord recommending other flight simulator. But this one is so far from IL2 genre.
so here goes http://www.x-plane.com

if you like building planes this is the one. its very realistic. build an BF109 if you want, design its airfoils, set its horsepower, wings, drag, everything. if you have search for a aerodynamic program this can be something...

Taylortony
05-27-2005, 04:21 PM
One of our flying instructors uses this and swears by it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

major_setback
05-27-2005, 05:02 PM
It's supposed to be the best...so I've heard. You can now get VFR photo scenery for it!

AerialTarget
05-27-2005, 08:01 PM
Do they have any gunnery in the game? If so, I just may very well get it, even if it is pay-to-play. I can make a single exception to my rule of no pay-to-play, if it is a truly realistic flight simulator.

major_setback
05-30-2005, 05:29 AM
X-Plane is a reasonably priced free-standing flight-sim along the same lines as FS2004. It models drag etc. very accurately. Textures aren't modelled so well, but the flight and atmosphere models are reported to be 'truly astounding' (PC Pilot, nr 30).

Updates are provided as free downloads.

Review:
'X-Plane actually predicts how the aircraft will behave based on the geometry of the aircraft models....ther flight dynamics in X-Plane work by looking at the geometry of an aircraft model, including it's propeler or rotor blades, and splitting it into a series of elements. The software then calculates how each piece would behave in flight and combines the individual results to predict the overall behaviour of the aircraft being modelled; it's an aproach called Blade Element Theory....The resulting feeling of being at the controls of an aircraft in flight is astounding.' (PC Pilot nr 30).

X-Plane even models compressibility 'accurately'. It can also be used for testing aircraft designs:
'...X-Plane can churn out intricate reports showing more than 100 values. The sim also has a feature that draws vector lines in real time to show the forces at work on each segment of the aircraft'.

'...Flight instruments and panels are graphically as good as those FS2004 users have become accustomed to.'

There are 30 default aircraft but you can add to these by building your own (and no doubt there are many on the internet for download).

The sim isn't as user friendly as FS2004, the software for instance lacks an automatic installer.(But it seems anyone with basic computer skills and who is capable of downloading and installing skins into FB shouldn't have a problem with X-Plane). There is no printed manual.

It costs 30 pound (UK) which is 55 dollars, for the older version (don't know about the latest, but the upgrade to this should be free!).

http://www.rcsimulations.com/switch.htm

there is a free trial at the link in the first post on this thread.
I think that it will even model other planet's atmosheres, and you can fly the space shuttle (?).

The X-Plane Forum:
http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?showtopic=9605&view=getlastpost (http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?showtopic=9605&view=getlastpost)



I haven't tried X-Plane myself. Guns don't work.

Major_Setback.

Tully__
05-30-2005, 05:46 AM
Like the IL2 series (and unlike just about every other sim on the markety) x-plane uses realtime calculation for FM's instead of the table based method everyone else uses. It has advatages and disadvatages.

major_setback
05-30-2005, 06:11 AM
If you have VFR scenery for Britain you can buy a cheap program which will allow you to use it in X-Plane (otherwise you would need a new set of VFR discs that are designed to work only with X-Plane).
This costs 17 pound (UK).

http://www.fsimp.com/

Xplane does not render VFR terrain as well as FS2004!!
Elevation points (terrain mesh) that add-on scenery is 'draped over' are much further apart in X-Plane (over 1km apart except for in the US where terrain points are 600m apart!). This can be compared with VFR scenery for FS2004, which has elevation points that are 19m apart (this will be enabled if you have the recent FS2004 patch. Otherwise the default for FS2004 is 75m between points).

arcadeace
05-30-2005, 06:32 AM
I have it and after a few weeks it got boring. The scenery is not very creative, even most of the planes aren't very good tho the cockpits are ok. Its taking off and going from one place to another, like Flightsim 2004 which I also have. The weather is one of the best factors in the experience but I thought the clouds still kinda sucked. I guess the flight models are very good but to me MS' feel about the same in quality. I like Flightsim '04 better because its a visually more appealing experience. If you have a lot of time to enjoy the experience of non-combat takeoff, flying, challenging weather, and landing, then its probably worth a try, more so if you can enjoy the hobby creating your own aircraft. I found almost every time I was in the sky with another plane I wanted to attack, it was always a damper.

skabbe
05-30-2005, 12:09 PM
well as i said, if you want grafic and cool fighting and actions in your lovebird its il2 for ya.

the reason i like its just because you can make your own aircraft, must be more then me here?

Aaron_GT
05-30-2005, 12:33 PM
Thanks for the tip, major_setback

TX-EcoDragon
05-30-2005, 03:08 PM
The more recent versions do have weapons. . . they just dont actually do any damage to anything. . .but they have realistic ballistics!! hehe. . .

Also, version 8.xx has better terrain mesh details, coastlines, etc.