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Huckebein_UK
04-19-2004, 12:17 PM

Huckebein_UK
04-19-2004, 12:17 PM

heywooood
04-19-2004, 02:05 PM
Ok - I'll post

As a fan of all things aeronautical -I would welcome anything(almost) with wings on it.

(except the F5U..Gibbage.)

lbhskier37
04-19-2004, 02:16 PM
I want the Sea Fury simply because it took the brits that long to realize real men use radials!

On a side note, this is also one of the many reasons I think the lancaster was the ugliest plane that ever flew. Now I will put on my flame hathttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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heywooood
04-19-2004, 03:05 PM
ibhskier - yer killin'me http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif

What DID they have against radials?..

aside from the Lysander and the ol' Stringbag
they shunned radials apparently

VW-IceFire
04-19-2004, 03:22 PM
When did the Sea Fury enter service? I'd vote yes to anything late war in RAF service but was the Sea Fury available during the war and did it see service?

If not, a more logical addition would be to a fictional 46 scenario would be the Tempest II which missed being shipped to the Pacific by a couple of months (a series were painted with PTO markings and ready for shipment when the war ended).

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Huckebein_UK
04-19-2004, 03:47 PM
Good point, I think the Sea Fury was a bit later than that.

We used radials on bombers! Beaufighters, Halifax etc. were very successful with Bristol radials. Anyway, it's not as if we lost out or anything - our inline fighters (Spit XIV, Tampest V) were the finest you'll find over Europe! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Name a radial engined fighter that could take a Spitfire XIVe down in a dogfight! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/mockface.gif

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Waldo.Pepper
04-19-2004, 04:06 PM
Beaufighter had radials. Think before you speak.

heywooood
04-19-2004, 04:26 PM
please - dont make me think..

The Uk did use radials ofcourse - it is just that when y'all came running to Us for planes http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/mockface.gif -
In-line fighters were specified and Radials were spurned...

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SkyChimp
04-19-2004, 06:42 PM
I don't want the F8F Bearcat, and I don't want the Sea Fury. I'd like to see the game stick to planes that were actually used.

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04-19-2004, 06:44 PM
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GK.
04-19-2004, 06:54 PM
I dont have a preferance, the more aircraft the better, however, the aircraft that were actually used should get priority.

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hunhunter-texas
04-20-2004, 10:24 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by heywooood:
please - dont make me think..

The Uk did use radials ofcourse - it is just that when y'all came running to Us for planes http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/mockface.gif -
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

....and taught you to fly them properly!! Remember the Corsair?? Rejected by the US navy as being impossible to land on carriers.....until the Fleet Air Arm showed them how!! So.... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/mockface.gif

heywooood
04-20-2004, 12:23 PM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif good one HH

WUAF_Badsight
04-20-2004, 01:45 PM
WHATS NOT TO LIKE !

THIS PLANE WAS INCREDIBLE ! ! ! ! ! !

http://server6.uploadit.org/files/clippa-Sea_Fury_92.JPG

Gato-Loco
04-20-2004, 02:27 PM
I rather see modelling efforts targeted towards planes that flown in WWII. There are LOTS of important planes to be modelled before we run out of WWII options.

04-20-2004, 02:36 PM
I agree with SkyChimp on this one, not that it really matters all that much.
We always filter non combatant planes out of our DF server and Coops anyway.
Mainly because we only host Historicaly accurate DF servers and Coop Missions.

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xanty
04-20-2004, 04:24 PM
My vote for a late war British plane for PF is....the Fairey Barracuda.

But I would much rather bave a Swordfish, an Albacore or a Beaufort.

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faustnik
04-20-2004, 04:30 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SkyChimp:
I don't want the F8F Bearcat, and I don't want the Sea Fury. I'd like to see the game stick to planes that were actually used.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Agree with the Chimpster 100%.

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VW-IceFire
04-20-2004, 04:39 PM
Yup as cool as these are to have there certainly are a bunch of aircraft that we should have first before anything in the what-if realm gets tried out.

I'd actually rather make sure we cover all our bases on both American and Japanese sides plus the RAAF and so on and make sure we've got the quality and the quantity of models that represent various stages of the war.

What we SHOULD be pushing on the third party front is to ensure that we get a Spitfire XIV, a Mosquito and Tempest for FB/AEP areas of the war.

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faustnik
04-20-2004, 04:44 PM
We've been seeing those Tempest model screenshots for a long time, sure would be nice to have it in FB.

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jensenpark
04-20-2004, 05:25 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WUAF_Badsight:
WHATS NOT TO LIKE !

THIS PLANE WAS INCREDIBLE ! ! ! ! ! !

http://server6.uploadit.org/files/clippa-Sea_Fury_92.JPG <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Gotta agree...most incredible prop plane! There's one at the Aviation Museum here in Ottawa. I just stand and drool...

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WUAF_Badsight
04-20-2004, 05:58 PM
all these , nampy pamby , actual planes that saw combat , wishy washy , big hosrepower scardy cat , historical reaslism fanboys can eat my 6 blade prop wash !

sure i dont want the important planes to be delayed either

i agree they are more important to the game

but gimme the 45 / 46 planes to play with later http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif

ImpStarDuece
04-21-2004, 02:21 AM
Id like to see the p-400

N, its not a p-40 with a zero on its tail http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif, but the RAF version of the P-39, fitted with a 20mm hispanio.

Can't actually remember if it saw service in the Pacific now that i think abotu it.

Oh well, the more planes the merrier i say, as long as they saw combat duty in the Pacific, i dont really care.

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Blottogg
04-21-2004, 03:54 AM
I'm torn between two opinions. I agree with SkyChimp et. al. about needing to try to keep these WWII sims in a WWII context. The other side of me is curious about the Sea Hornet and Sea Fury. AFAIK, neither of these have been previously modeled in a sim, and this would be the closest I'm likely to get to flying either of them. The Sea Hornet especially interests me. It reminds me of what you'd get if a DeHaviland Mosquito stayed at the gym a little longer.

I guess I'd say not to divert resources from period aircraft to include these, but if people are willing to put the work in on their own, and Luthier doesn't turn them away, include them. Those not wishing to fly them can choose not to, and ban them on line if they don't want to fly against them, either.

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JG53Frankyboy
04-21-2004, 06:11 AM
sure, P-400 saw action versus Lae Reisens over NewGuinea in 1942.

and pls, keep PF away from that "what if"-plane hystrie that you can see in FB http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

as new (not already in IL2/FB) UK:
Seafire L.MKIII
Spitfire MkVIII
Fairy Firefly

would be nice

Vigilanty
04-21-2004, 10:19 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by hunhunter-texas:
....and taught you to fly them properly!! Remember the Corsair?? Rejected by the US navy....<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The U.S. Marine Corps was flying 'em pretty good from land bases around this time, too. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

necrobaron
04-21-2004, 10:51 PM
I agree that the choice to model planes actually flown in WWII should take preference over (immediately)post war planes,but I'd love to see the Bearcat,Sea Fury,etc. included. I think the Sea Fury is one of the most awesome looking of all the Brit planes. Much more so than the much talked about Spit. The illegitmate British brother of the FW-190 would definately be great to see. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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Rhavin_
04-22-2004, 11:28 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> On a side note, this is also one of the many reasons I think the lancaster was the ugliest plane that ever flew. Now I will put on my flame hat <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well I think your flame hat has fizzled and gone out because the Lanc had radials! Silly silly ibhskier! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/353.gif jensenpark I know exactly the one you're talking about! I might have slipped on that puddle you made.. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif Have you ever taken a ride in the Stearman biplane they have there? UNBELIEVABLE!!! Ask them to do some aerobatics and hold on to your seatbelt! (it's actually a car seatbelt so REALLY HOLD ON!!!) The pilot took me out over the Gatineau Hills and pulled some Immelmans and some spins. My favourite part was when he idled the engine and you could hear the wind whistling through the struts. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif

faustnik
04-22-2004, 11:38 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Rhavin_:


Well I think your flame hat has fizzled and gone out because the Lanc had radials!
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Merlin radials? Maybe you mean tires? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

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Rhavin_
04-22-2004, 12:08 PM
BWA HAHAHAHAHA I was waiting for someone to bite! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


Lancaster Mk. II Only:
Model: Bristol Hercules VI
Type: 14-Cylinder two-row, sleeve-valve radials
Number: Four Horsepower: 1,650 hp

Only 300 produced, but they're still Lancs!

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Rhavin_
04-22-2004, 12:10 PM
doh! double post

Rhavin_
04-22-2004, 12:12 PM
Sorry, I was hoping someone would call me on that. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif My friends grandfather used to tell us stories about serving on one. His Lanc was shot down by a BF-110 nightfighter and he fought alongside the resistance in France before making his way back to friendly lines. Quite the tales to tell the kids! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

faustnik
04-22-2004, 12:22 PM
Caught!!! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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VW-IceFire
04-22-2004, 02:30 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by faustnik:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Rhavin_:


Well I think your flame hat has fizzled and gone out because the Lanc had radials!
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Merlin radials? Maybe you mean tires? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

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Yes at one point the RAF decided that there weren't enough Merlin engines to go around (since everything was using them) so they built the Lancaster Mark II with the radial engine type. I don't think it was quite as good but it still did the job. Later when more Merlins became available they built the Mark III which wasn't much different except for the Merlin engine.

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SkyChimp
04-22-2004, 07:17 PM
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BuzzU
04-22-2004, 10:52 PM
I'm with Chimp. Let's keep it real for once.

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WUAF_Badsight
04-23-2004, 01:03 AM
yes lets have the real Sea Fury & the Real Bearcat & the Real Shinden

VW-IceFire
04-23-2004, 07:41 AM
While were at it...Spitfire XIV's served in the Pacific Theater closer to the end of the war flying armed recon (they were XIV FR - fighter recon). That'd be a brutal enough machine against whatever it faced in the PTO.

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WOLFMondo
04-23-2004, 08:32 AM
Part of me says spend the time on making planes that actually flew in the war years but also I'd dearly love to see the Hawker Sea Fury in this game. It might not have actually fought in the war but its from that period and certainly more deserving of being in this sim than say a Bf109Z. In an idea world i'd like to see all prop war planes modelled in for FB/PF. How cool would that be.

Other than that the Beaufighter really has to be in PF as does the Mosquito, seafires, firefly and I'd like to see the Spitfire VIII and XIVe.

Did the Barracuda serve in the pacific or was it out of service by then (don't know much about it)?

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FRAGAL
04-23-2004, 03:33 PM
I would love to see planes like the tempest MKV or the Typhoon, or seafury in FB (plus some bombs for the hurricane would be nice as well)
Fragal

Vigilanty
04-23-2004, 05:57 PM
As soon as the Skua and Swordfish and Roc and Firefly and Sea Hurricane and Barracuda and Seafires are done, I'd like to have some '46 planes. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Rhavin_
04-23-2004, 10:08 PM
Not saying I want it in game, I'll stick with my Seafire, but I found some .wmvs of a Spit Mk. XVIII doing some beautiful flybys. Why would you want radials instead? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif


http://www.users.on.net/apowell/flyby1.wmv

http://www.users.on.net/apowell/flybygoodsound.wmv

http://www.users.on.net/apowell/overheadflyby.wmv

grist
04-24-2004, 07:15 AM
The Spiffie sounds great.

jensenpark
04-25-2004, 09:17 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Rhavin_:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> On a side note, this is also one of the many reasons I think the lancaster was the ugliest plane that ever flew. Now I will put on my flame hat <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well I think your flame hat has fizzled and gone out because the Lanc had radials! Silly silly ibhskier! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/353.gif jensenpark I know exactly the one you're talking about! I might have slipped on that puddle you made.. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif Have you ever taken a ride in the Stearman biplane they have there? UNBELIEVABLE!!! Ask them to do some aerobatics and hold on to your seatbelt! (it's actually a car seatbelt so REALLY HOLD ON!!!) The pilot took me out over the Gatineau Hills and pulled some Immelmans and some spins. My favourite part was when he idled the engine and you could hear the wind whistling through the struts. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sounds great...maybe this summer. I didn't know they did trips in that. Been offered trips in a monoplane they have there (don't know what it is exactly). Will have to look for it. Were you there when Porter flew his Spitfire for a couple circuits for all the BoB vets? Living in the nation's capital has a few perks, eh?

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