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blairgowrie
04-05-2010, 03:23 PM
Continued from PART_THIRTEEN: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/foru...301036948#1301036948 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/9731083338?r=1301036948#1301036948)

blairgowrie
04-05-2010, 03:23 PM
Continued from PART_THIRTEEN: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/foru...301036948#1301036948 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/9731083338?r=1301036948#1301036948)

Dance
04-05-2010, 03:41 PM
Thanks BG.

Mr Jolly was kind enough to post the rules at the beginning of the last thread, so I will post them for this one.

<span class="ev_code_yellow">

Rules

1. When a person answers a question and it is confirmed as correct by the poster of the question, they then have the floor and are expected to ask the next question. (You are only allowed to ask a question if the above rule has been adhered to.)

2. If a question isn't asked within 24 hours then it will be assumed that the person supposed to ask the question has a problem, then the floor will be made open for anyone to ask the next question to allow the quiz to continue. The same applies if an answer is given and confirmation is not forthcoming within 24 hours

3. Questions are to be related to World War II air warfare.

4. If a multiple part question is asked, only one point will be awarded for the answer.

Guidelines

1. To allow fluid running of the quiz, if you answer a question correctly but cannot post a new question or won't be able to check for answers to your new question, please ask someone else to post the next question. This doesn't mean you can't go to work or bed but please be considerate when possible.

2. Please don't abuse the above guideline by just answering questions and then passing it to someone else all the time, instead of asking one yourself (see rule 1).


3. If you have posted a question and it becomes obvious that nobody knows the answer, it is customary to offer a hint or clue.

4. When posting picture questions, it is recommended that you do not direct link. Use something like 'Photobucket' to host your pictures (most people can see pictures linked from there, whereas some other sites are not visible globally) and don't forget to disguise the name of the picture. </span>

WTE_Galway
04-06-2010, 01:17 AM
Well we seem to be waiting on a question by buchtik http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

buchtik
04-06-2010, 09:34 AM
Sorry for delay.Here we go, an easy ID:
http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/8363/31428690.jpg

Daiichidoku
04-06-2010, 09:46 AM
CAC Woomera CA-4 prototype, A23-1001

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAC_Woomera

yet again, if i am correct, floor is open, im at work and cant get to my stuff on my own comp

buchtik
04-06-2010, 10:14 AM
You are right http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif.So the floor is open.

robtek1957
04-06-2010, 11:55 AM
i take the floor.

Tell the plane:

http://robtek.de/quiz34.jpg

TinyTim
04-07-2010, 07:23 AM
Zmaj R-1.

Multi purpose combat plane (heavy fighter/dive bomber/assault/recce...) prototype, designed and built in Yugoslavia shortly before the war. The only prototype was destroyed in a German bombing attack during April War, 1941.

robtek1957
04-07-2010, 11:20 AM
Correct TT http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Your turn again.

TinyTim
04-07-2010, 11:59 AM
Thanks robtek.

Who's this?

http://www.shrani.si/f/g/Ej/1PZTUhuw/q.jpg

TinyTim
04-08-2010, 04:06 AM
Another photo:

http://www.shrani.si/f/21/dB/3oKA4SkN/q.jpg

Dance
04-08-2010, 05:41 AM
Mato Dukovac.

TinyTim
04-08-2010, 08:31 AM
Yes, Dance, it's highest scoring Croatian ace, Mato Dukovac.

A 44-kill 109 ace flew most of the sorties on the eastern front, accompanied in a "rotte" with second highest scoring Croatian ace, Cvitan Gali? (38 kills).

He later defected to Soviets where he worked as a flight instructor. After war he served with Syrian air force during 1948 Arab Israeli War, before finally retiring and moving to Canada where he passed away in 1990.

Your turn, Dance.

Dance
04-08-2010, 11:26 AM
Thanks TT.

Another who is..

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss207/Dancewaffe/q405.jpg

VF-17_Jolly
04-08-2010, 01:07 PM
Tupolev?

Dance
04-08-2010, 01:18 PM
Nope sorry MrJ, not a designer.

Daiichidoku
04-08-2010, 01:59 PM
Udet?

robtek1957
04-08-2010, 02:01 PM
Ernst Udet

darn, too late!

Dance
04-08-2010, 02:05 PM
Not to worry Robtek, it's not right http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

TinyTim
04-08-2010, 03:24 PM
Constantin "Bazu" Cantacuzino, one of the top Romanian aces. One of the rare pilots that shot down VVS, USAAF and Luftwaffe airplane.

Dance
04-08-2010, 03:45 PM
You got him TT, poached your top scoring ace theme http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

He didn't do too bad for a Prince http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

TinyTim
04-08-2010, 03:57 PM
Thanks Dance.

Running thin on ideas and time here at the moment and I'm also not sure about the ability to check the answer in the next couple of days, so I'm inviting anyone to ask the next question.

WTE_Galway
04-08-2010, 05:15 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by TinyTim:
Thanks Dance.

Running thin on ideas and time here at the moment and I'm also not sure about the ability to check the answer in the next couple of days, so I'm inviting anyone to ask the next question. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Really easy one to keep the ball rolling:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/clannagh/dx4.jpg


Name the aircraft.

AndyJWest
04-08-2010, 05:20 PM
Even I can get that one. It's a Lancaster. ASV radar on the left, I think, rather than the H2S I initially thought...

mhuxt
04-08-2010, 05:27 PM
Hmmm. My first guess would have been Sunderland.

WTE_Galway
04-08-2010, 05:29 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by AndyJWest:
Even I can get that one. It's a Lancaster. ASV radar on the left, I think, rather than the H2S I initially thought... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not sure on the radar ... but yes a lanc ..

over to you http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

AndyJWest
04-08-2010, 05:39 PM
Thanks, WTE_G.

There is a pic of various radar sets here, with lots of other stuff, including the photo you posted, on this website: http://www.qsl.net/g4bxd/lancaster.htm. The guy looks like he knows his stuff, which is why I thought ASV.

Anyway, another quick one. It's upside down, and a bit bent, but this should be easy enough to recognise:
http://i958.photobucket.com/albums/ae65/ajv00987k/Tailwheel.jpg

EDIT
Apparently, the ASV radar was a development of H2S, so it could be either. In a Lanc, I'd suppose that H2S was more likely. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing...

Daiichidoku
04-08-2010, 06:39 PM
a Beau?

AndyJWest
04-08-2010, 07:27 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Daiichidoku:
a Beau? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Nope.

Dance
04-09-2010, 07:02 AM
Junkers Ju-87

shoppingtrolley
04-09-2010, 07:49 AM
Agree. Stuka for sure http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

WTE_Galway
04-09-2010, 08:05 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by shoppingtrolley:
Agree. Stuka for sure http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

yep turn this upside down and it looks pretty spot on ... http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/AWA1/001-100/walk016_Ju-87D/images%20Steve%20Bamford/sheb8722.jpg

AndyJWest
04-09-2010, 08:55 AM
Yup, Dance gets it. Ju-87. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

http://i958.photobucket.com/albums/ae65/ajv00987k/CrashedJu87.jpg

I should probably research a few questions in advance. Time to put thinking cap on.

Over to you Dance...

Dance
04-09-2010, 09:47 AM
Thanks Andy.

I better throw the floor open, I have to go out shortly and wont be back for at least four hours.

koivis
04-09-2010, 10:31 AM
Identify these:

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g306/koivis/quiz4.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g306/koivis/quiz5.jpg

and also, what feature was common between these aircraft?

Daiichidoku
04-09-2010, 05:45 PM
He 219 and Saab J21

both had ejection seats

koivis
04-10-2010, 02:56 AM
Sorry it took a while. You got the second right, but the first one is close, but still not quite right.

JtD
04-10-2010, 03:15 AM
I think it's one of the earlier drafts that still had the DB610 planned. But I don't know which one exactly. One of the P.105X projects.

koivis
04-10-2010, 03:40 AM
Nope. Yes, engines are not "normal", but there are more differences than you think. The plane wasn't finished in time for flight, as something interrupted the construction...

JtD
04-10-2010, 04:40 AM
Right, it also has sort of Ju-88 wings...

TinyTim
04-10-2010, 05:14 AM
Hütter Hü-211 by any chance?

Two unfinished prototypes were destroyed in a bombing before their first flight.

Edit: If I'm correct, let the Daii take the next question since he answered most part of the question correctly already.

koivis
04-10-2010, 06:53 AM
Yes, Hütter Hü 211 it is, and over to Daiichidoku it goes!

Daiichidoku
04-10-2010, 12:13 PM
who am i?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/Daiichidoku/mystery112.jpg

VF-17_Jolly
04-10-2010, 12:43 PM
Curtiss O-52?

Daiichidoku
04-10-2010, 01:58 PM
yup

VF-17_Jolly
04-10-2010, 02:03 PM
Cheers

What is this

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/POLISH_PILOT/Copy.jpg

Daiichidoku
04-10-2010, 02:19 PM
Naval Aircraft Factory SBN

VF-17_Jolly
04-10-2010, 02:30 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Designed by Brewster explains Butt ugliness http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Dance
04-10-2010, 05:14 PM
Weird how it takes minutes to answer a question but hours to come back with a new question.

robtek1957
04-10-2010, 05:20 PM
Well, i believe, that not everybody,
except maybe you,
has a few terabytes ww2 aircraft information on call. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Dance
04-10-2010, 05:28 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Daiichidoku
04-11-2010, 12:04 AM
the office of a _______ pilot

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/Daiichidoku/mystery111.jpg

robtek1957
04-11-2010, 03:16 AM
xp-50 or XF-5-F?

TinyTim
04-11-2010, 01:21 PM
McDonnell XP-67 "Bat"?

Dance
04-11-2010, 01:41 PM
Glad somebody got it at last, perhaps we might get a response now. After waiting ten hours for the question and another ten (and counting) waiting for a response to Robtek's answer. Yet it only took Dai 16 minutes to answer the question that got us here http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Daiichidoku
04-11-2010, 01:52 PM
Tiny Tim has it

TinyTim
04-11-2010, 02:24 PM
Thanks Daiichidoku.

What plane is behind this group of cheerful pilots?

http://www.shrani.si/f/O/zc/1VdRdF2P/q.jpg

Sillius_Sodus
04-11-2010, 11:39 PM
LA-5?

TinyTim
04-12-2010, 03:58 AM
I'm affraid not SS.

Only 3 examples were used in combat operations.

Another shot of one getting serviced:

http://www.shrani.si/f/1V/U5/1OEHaIdK/q.jpg

PB0_shadow
04-12-2010, 08:17 AM
I-185 (with M-71)?

robtek1957
04-12-2010, 09:15 AM
I-185 wit M-82 engine :-D

TinyTim
04-12-2010, 09:21 AM
Not a Polikarpov nor Lavochkin desing gentlemen.
Good guesses tho, as it is indeed an ASh-82 powered airplane.

Another picture (this example doesn't have the upper cowling gun installed though):

http://www.shrani.si/f/1s/Pq/2op3XtAD/q.jpg

Not many left to check I guess.

robtek1957
04-12-2010, 09:41 AM
Mig3 with M-82 Engine equals to Mig9

http://www.airpages.ru/mt/mot42.shtml

TinyTim
04-12-2010, 10:27 AM
Yes, it's a MiG-9, essentially an M-82 equipped MiG-3. It didn't enter serial production since it didn't offer any advantages over La-5 already being massively produced with similar engine. 3 of them served on Karelian front and were retired in 1944.

Go ahead, robtek.

robtek1957
04-12-2010, 01:06 PM
Thanks TT.

what' that?

http://robtek.de/quiz35.jpg

Heliopause
04-13-2010, 11:30 AM
PN-3
Serial no. 160, Estonian Aviation Regiment, 1939-1940. Designed as a conversion trainer for the newly ordered Supermarine Spitfire, the PN-3 was also capable of being used as a light fighter. The sole example was named Isamaa pŠstja (Saviour of the Fatherland) and is shown finished in an overall Natural Metal scheme.

robtek1957
04-13-2010, 11:52 AM
You have it, heliopause. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
Over to you.

Heliopause
04-13-2010, 12:12 PM
Thanks robtek. Luckily I reckonised the flag on the tail...lol

What plane?
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b334/PauseHelio/X-2.jpg

Dance
04-13-2010, 12:16 PM
Fokker T.5?

DrHerb
04-13-2010, 12:17 PM
Fokker T.V???

Drat, Dance got it 1 second before me

Heliopause
04-13-2010, 12:38 PM
Correct Dance, a Fokker T.V!
(This picture was taken on may 8th 1940, two days before the German invasion.)

Dance
04-13-2010, 12:58 PM
Thanks Heliopause, makes up for the previous question, I knew I'd seen the PN-3 before but couldn't dredge it from my memory http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Anyway, can anyone I.D. this before I reveal the whole picture?

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss207/Dancewaffe/q406.jpg

DrHerb
04-13-2010, 01:06 PM
Shot in the dark, a P-47 with the chrysler engine?

Dance
04-13-2010, 01:09 PM
Nope, sorry DrHerb.

Daiichidoku
04-13-2010, 01:20 PM
Hawker Henley

Daiichidoku
04-13-2010, 01:22 PM
im pretty sure im correct, so if i am, please identify

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/Daiichidoku/mystery110.jpg


(no waiting for me this time, Dance http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif )

Dance
04-13-2010, 01:25 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

robtek1957
04-13-2010, 02:24 PM
Curtiss XP-55

Daiichidoku
04-13-2010, 02:38 PM
a s s ender indeed

robtek1957
04-13-2010, 02:42 PM
Ok,

tell the plane.
http://robtek.de/quiz36.jpg

Dance
04-14-2010, 01:01 PM
Think you're going to have to give us a clue on this one Robtek. The turret gun's magazines are throwing me right off the scent, haven't seen those before.

robtek1957
04-14-2010, 01:07 PM
Ok Mr. Dance,
i would have given the next hint after 24h anyway http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Here another pic:

http://robtek.de/quiz36a.jpg

Dance
04-14-2010, 01:11 PM
There's no 24 hour rule governing clues, there is a guideline that mentions if it is obvious no one knows then it is customary to offer one http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Edit: I'll leave the answer to someone else.

VF-17_Jolly
04-14-2010, 01:13 PM
PBY?

TinyTim
04-14-2010, 01:20 PM
A shot in the dark:

Boeing XB-15?


EDIT: I'm logging off for the next 12 or so hours, so if I'm correct, I'm inviting anyone to ask the next one, or I'll ask one when I come back.

robtek1957
04-14-2010, 02:24 PM
TinyTim has it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

TinyTim
04-15-2010, 01:56 AM
Noone? Well, here we go.

Was ist das?

http://www.shrani.si/f/1E/mK/1daMJRc5/q.jpg

Dance
04-15-2010, 06:00 AM
Moskalev SAM-13, if I'm right I will be back in about 4 hours with a question, unless someone wants to ask one in the meantime.

TinyTim
04-15-2010, 06:33 AM
Moskalev SAM-13 it is indeed Dance! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

A single prototype of this (ultra)light fighter (empty weight 750kg!!) was built in Soviet Union and in 1940 it reached a speed of 560kph at 4000m, an extraordinary achievement when considering it was powered only with two puny Renault-Bengazi MV-6 engines with only 220 HP each. Low drag was achieved by a single vertical stabilizer (very unusual feature for twin boom plane), tandem engines, extremely thin short wings, and weight minimized as much as possible. It was armed with 4 ShKAS machineguns.

Sillius_Sodus
04-15-2010, 08:42 AM
I suppose it had no armour, but then again, it would have been hard to hit http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Dance
04-15-2010, 10:35 AM
Thanks Tim.

Sorry for the small and slightly washed out photo, hopefully it will suffice. What's this?

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss207/Dancewaffe/q407.jpg

Dance
04-15-2010, 02:13 PM
This may help some, it's a picture of the aircraft that the one in my photo was developed from. It has a different engine, but other than that is essentially the same configuration. Plus this picture contains several clues.

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss207/Dancewaffe/q407-1.jpg

robtek1957
04-15-2010, 02:34 PM
CUKURS C.6

http://latvianaviation.com/Images/Cuk%20509t.jpg

Dance
04-15-2010, 02:38 PM
C.6 Bis to be precise, but all yours Robtek http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

A dive bomber would you believe and probably the most modern aircraft in the Latvian Air Force before Russia invaded. 12 were on order but obviously they were never to come to pass and only the prototype was completed, the designer was shipped off to Russia but refused to co-operate.


On a side note the civilian C.6 was piloted by the designer from Riga to Tokyo and back (in stages).

robtek1957
04-15-2010, 02:45 PM
Thanks, Mr. Dance.
Here another identification, please.
It should be fairly easy, i believe.

http://robtek.de/quiz37.jpg

VF-17_Jolly
04-15-2010, 03:52 PM
Curtiss XP-46?

Daiichidoku
04-15-2010, 05:03 PM
found a colour copy....

http://prototypes.free.fr/xf87/images/xp46a_01.jpg

robtek1957
04-15-2010, 11:50 PM
Of course,Daiichidoku http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

but VF-17_Jolly was first! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Go ahead, VF-17_Jolly.

Dance
04-16-2010, 01:28 PM
In case you didn't catch Robtek's edit MrJ, your go http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

VF-17_Jolly
04-16-2010, 01:47 PM
Yes i did miss robteks edit cheer MrD http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Qwik one what plane

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/POLISH_PILOT/op.jpg

TinyTim
04-16-2010, 01:55 PM
I'll pass this one. Got it once already in this quiz, this exact picture. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Dance
04-16-2010, 03:07 PM
Yep seen that one before, maybe I even asked it, too many questions to remember lol. It's a good one though, so we'll see who gets it.

VF-17_Jolly
04-16-2010, 03:22 PM
there are only so many questions sigh.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif

have this one as well

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/POLISH_PILOT/Image1-5.jpg

Dance
04-17-2010, 10:52 AM
Well the first one was a B-24 I believe, the second is a Kellett XO-60 Autogiro.

VF-17_Jolly
04-17-2010, 11:07 AM
Yup of course apparently this was a late model with the ball turret removed to save weight at low level i assume due to the lack of insulated flying gear

http://www.aviastar.org/foto/kellett_yo-60.jpg

Kellett XO-60 Autogyro

on you go mr D

Dance
04-17-2010, 12:36 PM
Thanks MrJ.

I.D. the aircraft..

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss207/Dancewaffe/q408.jpg

robtek1957
04-17-2010, 01:19 PM
That's a Hudson with a provisional Turret as there were not enough powered turrets at this time.

Dance
04-17-2010, 01:27 PM
Over to you Robtek http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

robtek1957
04-17-2010, 03:06 PM
Thx. Mr.Dance.

ident please:

http://robtek.de/quiz38.jpg

sorry for the bad pic, the better ones are reserved for hints :-D

robtek1957
04-18-2010, 04:11 AM
Ok, here is another picture:

http://robtek.de/quiz38a.jpg

Dance
04-18-2010, 02:11 PM
ANF Mureaux 115

robtek1957
04-18-2010, 02:38 PM
Yes Dance, thats the one. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
The first french plane shot down in the Phoney War.
Over to you.

Dance
04-18-2010, 03:03 PM
Thanks Robtek.

What might this be?

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss207/Dancewaffe/q409.jpg

Dance
04-19-2010, 06:53 AM
Here's another view of it.

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss207/Dancewaffe/q409-1.jpg

TinyTim
04-19-2010, 09:55 AM
Martin 162A Tadpole clipper, a 3/8 scale prototype of PBM Mariner?

Dance
04-19-2010, 10:05 AM
Bingo! All yours TT http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

JtD
04-19-2010, 10:11 AM
I have no idea how you guys keep on getting the right answers. In fact, I have no idea how you manage to find ideas for these questions in the first place.

Is there a secret to it?

Most impressed, continuously, JtD. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Dance
04-19-2010, 10:53 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

No secret to it as such JtD, other than when the book and documentary resources you have run out, Google is your friend. You have to take any hints you can from, for instance, a picture. Markings, guns, engines or layout that look familiar and follow your gut instincts. It could be a simple as 'that looks Japanese' etc and going from there.

Finding questions is probably harder as we have had, I estimate, around a thousand since the quiz started. You come across things for new questions while looking for answers to other questions however.

I'd rather be doing this than Sudoku or Brain Training on the Nintendo DS to keep my ageing brain active http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

TinyTim
04-19-2010, 11:36 AM
Thanks Dance, a neat question! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Also, couldn't have said it better myself. One of the nearly inexhaustible pools of questions for me is photos of distinctive details on WW2 warbirds. In line with this - what plane is sporting this unusual defensive armament:

http://www.shrani.si/f/3g/10i/1zXwGk5b/q.jpg

VF-17_Jolly
04-19-2010, 12:26 PM
Gekko?

TinyTim
04-19-2010, 01:47 PM
Yup, Nakajima J1N Gekko in one of its versions. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Go ahead Jolly.

VF-17_Jolly
04-19-2010, 04:42 PM
Thaks TT sorry its been 4 hrs i missed the extra page duh pure guess(not german or italian) must be an experiment as all my ref have upward firing obilque 20mm cannon (whole picture please)

Any who a new one to me what is this

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/POLISH_PILOT/wq.jpg

Dance
04-19-2010, 05:13 PM
At last Ubi let me reply (the hamster must be on a go slow) Stearman XA-21 without the streamlined cockpit.

VF-17_Jolly
04-19-2010, 05:24 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Stearman XA-21 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thats the kiddie

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/POLISH_PILOT/800px-Stearman_XA-21_parked.jpg

Looks like a cross between a B-25 and a Blenheim

Your go MrD http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Dance
04-19-2010, 06:38 PM
Thanks MrJ

I've been having some trouble logging in, so sorry for the late reply, I don't expect it to suddenly improve. The floor is open as I am going to bed or I will ask a new one when I resurface.

JSG72
04-19-2010, 08:41 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Dance:
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

No secret to it as such JtD, other than when the book and documentary resources you have run out, Google is your friend. You have to take any hints you can from, for instance, a picture. Markings, guns, engines or layout that look familiar and follow your gut instincts. It could be a simple as 'that looks Japanese' etc and going from there.

Finding questions is probably harder as we have had, I estimate, around a thousand since the quiz started. You come across things for new questions while looking for answers to other questions however.

I'd rather be doing this than Sudoku or Brain Training on the Nintendo DS to keep my ageing brain active http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That is the way it is done. Certainly more entertaining when you are looking up things that are actually of interest to you.

IL2 Quiz. is a superb example of keeping interest alive. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

BTW. Now in Florida and not particularily caring about how to return home http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Cheers Guys! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

AndyJWest
04-19-2010, 09:01 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Now in Florida and not particularily caring about how to return home http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sorry to go off-topic guys, but I can't let this pass:

------------
From: Her Majesty's Britannic Government (or whatever brand of Eurotourist you are...)
To: JSG72

RE: 'Get You Home' program.

In accordance with the following program, you are instructed to report to the Miami Docks Exportation of Stranded Aliens Facility at 08:00 local time, 28the May 2010, where you will be allocated a berth on accommodation to expedite your return. Please note that you will be restricted to one item of hand luggage, not exceeding 20 Kg. Please also note that the expected route of return will be via Lagos, Timbuktu, Zagreb, Oslo and Berwick on Tweed, and only minimal refreshments will be available. Should you not wish to avail yourself of the opportunity offered by the above program, you may of course take advantage of the deportation services offered by the US Government, though you should note that British Consulate facilities available in Guatamala are minimal.

Back to the quiz....

VF-17_Jolly
04-20-2010, 01:28 AM
Thanks AndyJWest and thanks to JSG72 living it up in a crisis well done that man http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Till MrD returns

what is this


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/POLISH_PILOT/qwe1.jpg

WTE_Galway
04-20-2010, 03:26 AM
Curtis Condor



http://www.sr692.com/fleet/08_curtiss/condor.jpg



H0WEVER assuming that is correct, I am not going to be online to check any answers so back to you for another question.

Dance
04-20-2010, 08:47 AM
Glad you're making the best of it JSG http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

I'll ask one to start us off again, as MrJ covered for for me on the last one.

Here's one I'd never come across before today, what's this?

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss207/Dancewaffe/q410.jpg

TinyTim
04-20-2010, 09:39 AM
I believe this could be a Marton X/V, Hungarian fighter prototype. It was powered by two DB605s, and was supposed to be armed with 2x20mm + 2x13mm. It was very similar in appearance to the Dutch Fokker D.XXIII (and maybe even to Moskalev SAM-13, recently mentioned in this quiz). However the prototype was destroyed in 1944 in a bombing attack and all further work on it was canceled. There is no doubt in my mind should it appear on European skies in combat, it would be fast as hell.

http://www.shrani.si/f/36/mW/tx20pm2/marton-c1.jpg

Dance
04-20-2010, 09:46 AM
That's the one Tim, it would have had a spring operated ejection seat too. It promised to be a formidable aircraft. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

http://s3.photobucket.com/albums/y82/slava_trudu/Marton/Marton-03-1.jpg

Metatron_123
04-20-2010, 10:17 AM
This topic is full of surprises, what a mean machine! Like an Me-109 on steroids. It does look ultra short range, not that it would have mattered at that stage in the war.

TinyTim
04-20-2010, 01:38 PM
Whoops, almost forgot about this.

What plane is getting armed up here?

http://www.shrani.si/f/2H/4B/13aSOfGx/q.jpg

VF-17_Jolly
04-20-2010, 03:13 PM
Henschel Hs 129?

TinyTim
04-20-2010, 03:18 PM
No doubt, Jolly! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Your turn.

Dance
04-20-2010, 03:31 PM
Nice one MrJ, damned if I didn't find it in my Squadron-Signal publication on the subject but too late http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

VF-17_Jolly
04-20-2010, 03:34 PM
Quick flick through squadron signal No 176 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

What might this be

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/POLISH_PILOT/qwe6.jpg

Before i forget yes the answer was a Curtiss Condor

Used by China throughout the war http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

TinyTim
04-20-2010, 04:43 PM
Looks like a He-112B to me.

VF-17_Jolly
04-21-2010, 12:16 AM
Yes indeed http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Spanish issue strange this aircraft never realy saw service with the Luftwaffe

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/POLISH_PILOT/He-112.jpg

Your go TT

TinyTim
04-21-2010, 03:01 AM
Thanks Jolly!

What is this and what is carrying it:

http://www.shrani.si/f/3y/1D/4u5WhjoF/q.jpg

VF-17_Jolly
04-21-2010, 03:36 AM
That would be a Peggy Bomber carrying a Mitsubishi I-GO-1A Glide Bomb

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/27/Ki67OnGround.jpg

Id like to point out the nose looks like somewhere to grow tomatos very glazed and exposed http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

TinyTim
04-21-2010, 09:05 AM
Yes Jolly, that's it. The bomb was rocket boosted and radio controlled.

Your turn.

VF-17_Jolly
04-21-2010, 12:18 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">rocket boosted and radio controlled </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I missed that bit http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif


what is this

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/POLISH_PILOT/qwe7.jpg


and this one as a bonus i was going to ask properly but i think too easy



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/POLISH_PILOT/qwe6-1.jpg

I_JG78_Max
04-21-2010, 01:32 PM
Klemm Kl 35 and Budd RB-1 Conestoga?

Edit:
Not sure about the Klemm, maybe it is a Miles Magister instead.

robtek1957
04-21-2010, 01:48 PM
nah, the Klemm has a different landing gear.
The Miles Magister and Hawk have a different engine cowling and a streamlined gear,
Maybe a Ryan PT-19?

I agree of course with the Budds RB-1

VF-17_Jolly
04-21-2010, 04:28 PM
Not a Ryan or a Klemm


The Budd RB-1 Conestoga is correct a stainless steel aeroplane http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

TinyTim
04-22-2010, 03:13 AM
Huh, now that's tough.

My wildest thought would be Tokyo Ki-107, but I know it's not correct http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif.

A hint maybe? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif

VF-17_Jolly
04-22-2010, 05:55 AM
I will show you the unedited picture it may help

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/POLISH_PILOT/Image1-6.jpg

Dance
04-22-2010, 06:13 AM
INTA HM-1

I_JG78_Max
04-22-2010, 06:25 AM
Caudron C.600 Aiglon maybe?

VF-17_Jolly
04-22-2010, 06:38 AM
MrD has it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Huarte Mendicoa INTA hm-1

Flew until 1958 as Spains basic airforce trainer

Dance
04-22-2010, 06:43 AM
Thanks MrJ.

What's this?

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss207/Dancewaffe/q411.jpg

TinyTim
04-22-2010, 07:08 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VF-17_Jolly:
MrD has it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Huarte Mendicoa INTA hm-1

Flew until 1958 as Spains basic airforce trainer </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Apart from being used in a world war 2 time frame is it in any other way related to WW2 air war? Damn, gotta learn to "think out of the box". http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Dance, could that be Fabian Levente, hungarian trainer and liaison plane?

VF-17_Jolly
04-22-2010, 07:08 AM
Sorry wrong Thread (Raaaid camo pigoen theory post)

Or just abstract artistic posting http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

TinyTim
04-22-2010, 07:09 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Edit: http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Dance
04-22-2010, 07:29 AM
That's the one TT http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

TinyTim
04-22-2010, 07:53 AM
?

http://www.shrani.si/f/f/b9/13yl3ndF/q.jpg

Dance
04-22-2010, 10:50 AM
Is it a Blenheim Mk IV?

TinyTim
04-22-2010, 03:01 PM
It sure is, Dance. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Your shot.

Dance
04-22-2010, 03:23 PM
Thanks Tim. I was a bit unsure, but thankfully the picture I have of a Mk 1 turret showed little difference in the turret glazing.

What's this exactly?

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss207/Dancewaffe/q412.jpg

TinyTim
04-22-2010, 03:42 PM
Is it a Do-17 with a tail dive brake, which was supposed to open like a kind of small parachute?

Dance
04-22-2010, 03:52 PM
I'll give it to you as it would be unfair not to http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif, it's a Dornier Do-217N-2 nightfighter with a dive brake parachute. It caused extreme flexing of the airframe and had to be shot away if no longer needed, so it was soon abandoned. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

TinyTim
04-22-2010, 04:06 PM
Thanks Dance.

This is interesting, I knew they were testing a system like this on a Do-17, but I never heard they were also testing it on a nightfighter.


Continuing my "details/turrets" topic - any ideas what aircraft are we looking at here:

http://www.shrani.si/f/3B/9j/4xrKS9yO/q.jpg

Dance
04-22-2010, 04:17 PM
(The) Dornier Do-217N-2/R22 equipped with the parachute brake was tested at Bojurishte air base in Sofia, Bulgaria in 1943. The plane might (of) belonged to NNJ Schwarm (according to the code + NO). The unit was subordinated directly to Luftwaffe Kommando Ost.

http://web.quick.cz/kpmnbk/present/photo/perovka_bok.JPG

http://web.quick.cz/kpmnbk/present/do217n_en.htm

Seems pretty convincing, though I can't vouch for it.

Flight_boy1990
04-22-2010, 04:35 PM
Just one note though...It's not "Boyuritche" but "Bojurishte". http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Dance
04-22-2010, 04:37 PM
Corrected FB http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

VF-17_Jolly
04-22-2010, 04:43 PM
dornier do-24

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/POLISH_PILOT/Do-24t.jpg

TinyTim
04-22-2010, 06:07 PM
Correct Jolly, go ahead. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

VF-17_Jolly
04-23-2010, 12:06 AM
Thanks TT

What is this

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/POLISH_PILOT/qwe8.jpg

Dance
04-23-2010, 08:36 AM
Arado AR 231

robtek1957
04-23-2010, 08:45 AM
Arado 231 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Posted by me in the last edition of the quiz http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blush.gif

VF-17_Jolly
04-23-2010, 11:29 AM
Yup Mr Dance http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Dance
04-23-2010, 11:51 AM
Thanks MrJ, I must have missed that one Robtek.

I.D. please..

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss207/Dancewaffe/q413.jpg

Jungmann
04-23-2010, 02:02 PM
Beech AT-11.

Dance
04-23-2010, 02:15 PM
All yours Jungmann http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Jungmann
04-23-2010, 02:49 PM
Thanks, Dance.

Don't remember ever seeing a picture of USN carrier a/c level-bombing through an overcast before.

Identify, by the tail markings, the carrier group in this one. Or name the carrier. Or name the target and date. Any one is a score for me.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v365/Jungmann/il2e.jpg

VF-17_Jolly
04-23-2010, 03:18 PM
AVG-83 USS Essex Le Shima Okinawa?

April 1945?

Operation iceberg

TinyTim
04-23-2010, 03:21 PM
Looks like TBM-3s and SB2Cs of USS "Essex", still trying to figure out the target and the date... Very interesting photo.

EDIT: Jolly beat me to it!

EDIT2: Hakodate, Hokaido, home islands?

Jungmann
04-23-2010, 03:37 PM
VF-Jolly gets there first with VB-83 and the Essex--good job. But Tim is right about home islands, not Okinawa. July, 1945. TBMs with one drop tank and two radomes. Search and ??? the other one? Night fighter group leaders?

VF-17_Jolly
04-23-2010, 03:50 PM
TT can have it the targets more difficult than the group http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

And i dont have a question yet

TinyTim
04-23-2010, 04:11 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jungmann:
TBMs with one drop tank and two radomes. Search and ??? the other one? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Could it be ECM? Pure guessing...

Jungmann
04-23-2010, 04:17 PM
Mebbe.

TinyTim
04-23-2010, 04:28 PM
I gotta run this instant and won't be back through the weekend, so Jolly please take it, you got it first, I just corrected it a bit.

Cu lads, good question Jungmann, a refreshment after an infinitely long "ID" string we were having here. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Daiichidoku
04-23-2010, 04:56 PM
radar bombing IIRC

Dance
04-24-2010, 10:52 AM
Right, one to start us off again, what's this?

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss207/Dancewaffe/q414.jpg

Dance
04-24-2010, 03:16 PM
Here's a more revealing pic.

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss207/Dancewaffe/q414-1.jpg

robtek1957
04-25-2010, 02:10 AM
SNCAC NC.600 Heavy Fighter
a very close relative to the Hanriot H220-2 which was my first idea.

Dance
04-25-2010, 04:23 AM
Over to you Robtek http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

robtek1957
04-25-2010, 05:16 AM
And now? of course, another ID:

http://robtek.de/quiz39.jpg

VF-17_Jolly
04-25-2010, 06:11 AM
FFVS 22

robtek1957
04-25-2010, 07:11 AM
That was fast http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
Over to you, jolly

VF-17_Jolly
04-25-2010, 08:47 AM
At first i thought Koolhoven F.K.58 then no its that Finnish thing VL Myrsky no not that that looks like a Hawk 75 this looks like a buffalo with wierd undercarrige ah yes Sweden J22 simples http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

What is this on/in

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/POLISH_PILOT/qwe7-1.jpg

Dance
04-25-2010, 11:16 AM
PB4Y-2 Privateer, waist blister turret.

VF-17_Jolly
04-25-2010, 11:20 AM
Too Obvious?

Yup Mr D http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Dance
04-25-2010, 11:35 AM
Thanks Mr Jolly, I was a bit confused at first, I hadn't seen that view of one before, it just dawned on me after a bit that it was a blister.

Ok what's the story behind this pic. I want a bit more than V-2 testing.

1. The name of the object being carried.

2. A description of what the test's first objective was and how it was carried out.

3. Where the tests were carried out.

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss207/Dancewaffe/q415.jpg

robtek1957
04-25-2010, 01:42 PM
That is the Rocket A5, a testbed for all kind of tests including free fall starts from a He111 E which were previously tested in a high speed wind channel.
Additional 30 more real starts were made with parachute recovery.
Those tests were made at the "Greifswalder Oie"
The tests were a real success, heights up to 10600 m were reached.

TinyTim
04-25-2010, 01:48 PM
1. It's an A5, scaled down version of V-2 (A4), underneath a He-111E carrier.

2. The objective of the test was to break the sound barrier - the only way to achieve this was to drop the rocket from altitude. Broader goal was to determine the aerodynamics for a V-2.

3. The testings were carried out in Peenemünde starting in October 1938 (first drop). During the first test, model was dropped from about 7.000m and broke sound barrier at 1.000m. Model then deployed two chutes one after another to slow down and land in the water, where it was picked up.

EDIT: robtek beat me to it!

JtD
04-25-2010, 01:51 PM
Name of the object: "Erika" - it's an A-5 rocket.

First objective: Testing if the A-5 would go past the speed of sound. For this, they took solid A-5 models and dropped them from 6000m altitude. A-5's main idea was the testing of the inertial guidance system for the A-4.

Place: I don't know where the dropped them for the mach test, but the basic testing station was the Greifwalder Oie for the A-5 or Peenemünde for the rocket program in general. Might have been the Greifswalder Bodden.

Edit: Dang it!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Dance
04-25-2010, 02:17 PM
Robtek although first to identify the object, failed to get 2 completely (the initial objective of the test is missing) and 3 is Peenemunde in this case. So I give it to TinyTim as the most complete answer, unlucky Robtek and JtD

TinyTim
04-25-2010, 03:16 PM
Wow, nearly a tripple tie!

Thanks Dance.

Name at least four different types of aircraft used operationally in world war 2, which didn't have all of the manually operated movable defensive guns located in/on/below the fuselage.

Dance
04-25-2010, 04:45 PM
Messerschmitt Me-323
CANT Z.501
Blohm und Voss BV.222
Dornier 217

http://www.lonesentry.com/arti...do217-luftwaffe.html (http://www.lonesentry.com/articles/ttt/dornier-do217-luftwaffe.html)

Edit: I withdraw my answer as the 217's gun weren't movable. There are three there for somebody else though http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Edit2: I'll say Tupolev TB-3 as my 4th answer, in case I get lucky.

JtD
04-25-2010, 07:45 PM
The Pe-8 is another one.

mhuxt
04-26-2010, 12:21 AM
Think the Piaggio P.108 is another.

TinyTim
04-26-2010, 12:50 AM
Ah, I forgot about Cant Z.501. I was aiming for planes with guns somewhere on the wings, the 501 however perfectly fits the question. BV 222, Me 232, Pe-8 and P108 were indeed my group of 4, I wondered if anyone will find any more.

Dance, your turn.

VF-17_Jolly
04-26-2010, 01:01 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1c/BellYFM1Airacuda.jpg

Here's one?

WTE_Galway
04-26-2010, 03:09 AM
Pretty sure the BV 141 qualifies as well ...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f1/Bundesarchiv_bild_101I-602-B1227-09A,_Aufkl%C3%A4rungsflugzeuge_Blohm_-_Vo%C3%9F_BV_141_im_Hangar.jpg

Dance
04-26-2010, 07:30 AM
Thanks TT.

Sorry it's just an I.D. but I thought it was an interesting photo. What's this?

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss207/Dancewaffe/q416.jpg

Heliopause
04-26-2010, 07:43 AM
XP-59 Airacomet, probably at Muroc.

Dance
04-26-2010, 07:50 AM
That's the one Heliopause. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

The first prototype undergoing ground testing at Muroc, disguised to hide it was a jet.

Heliopause
04-26-2010, 07:56 AM
It was'nt much faster than piston engined fighters of that time but it gave a lot of US pilots and groundcrews their first experience in operating a jet.

Ok. ID:

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b334/PauseHelio/XX-1.png

Dance
04-26-2010, 08:07 AM
Koolhoven FK 51

Heliopause
04-26-2010, 08:11 AM
Indeed Dance!
(hmm, perhaps I should let go of the Dutch planes....)

Fk 51: Trainer and recon plane used by Dutch army air force, Navy and East Indies Air force.

Dance
04-26-2010, 08:27 AM
Thanks Heliopause, your passion for Dutch aircraft did narrow it down for me a bit http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Another photo I found interesting to I.D.

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss207/Dancewaffe/q417.jpg

robtek1957
04-26-2010, 10:16 AM
Well, that is a Fairey Battle with the P.24 engine that was tested at wright Field.
...the aircraft was shipped to the USA on december 5th, 1941, and was still at wright field in september 1942. when it returned to the RAE in 1943, 340 hours had been logged, including 87 in Britain, giving 253 hours of use in the USA.

TinyTim
04-26-2010, 10:18 AM
A Fairey Battle testbed for a 2000hp 24 cilinder X-type Fairey Monarch (Prince 4 or P.24) engine?

US markings puzzle me tho.

Edit: Ah I see robtek was faster plus he explained the markings. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Dance
04-26-2010, 10:28 AM
You got it Robtek http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

About the markings..


"Battle K9370 was used to test the Fairey Monarch 2,000+ hp (1,490+ kW) aero-engine with electrically-controlled three-blade contra-rotating propellors in 1939. According to Jane's All the World's Aircraft 1946-47, the aircraft was shipped to the U.S.A. after 86 hours test time."

TinyTim
04-26-2010, 10:34 AM
I had the existence of such an aircraft burried somewhere in my mind, but markings and a different spinner from this one below made me search deeper. Good question! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

http://www.shrani.si/f/1U/Yr/AI1lE2G/battle-prince.jpg

Dance
04-26-2010, 10:44 AM
Thanks Tim, that was another one close to being a tie too, good stuff you guys. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

robtek1957
04-26-2010, 11:25 AM
thanks, Mr. Dance.

What is build here?

http://robtek.de/quiz40.jpg

sorry for the low quality image.

TinyTim
04-26-2010, 11:40 AM
Judging by the wing shape - Me-264?

robtek1957
04-26-2010, 12:09 PM
No, definitely no Messerschmitt TT.

Dance
04-26-2010, 02:28 PM
Ok, I'll bite, even though I'm unsure. YB-17?

robtek1957
04-26-2010, 02:45 PM
Nope Mr. Dance, not the YB-17 either.
As a little hint: at its time it was the largest plane of its kind.

VF-17_Jolly
04-26-2010, 02:50 PM
B-29?

Dance
04-26-2010, 02:53 PM
Last guess then, Martin JRM Mars?

TinyTim
04-26-2010, 03:00 PM
XB-15?

robtek1957
04-26-2010, 03:18 PM
Larger than the b-29!
Build at first with radial engines then changed to inline engines.

VF-17_Jolly
04-26-2010, 03:37 PM
Douglas XB-19

robtek1957
04-26-2010, 03:45 PM
Yes Jolly, thats the one. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
Here is the cockpit:
http://robtek.de/quiz40a.jpg

First powered with Wright R-3350 then with Allison V-3420 engines.

VF-17_Jolly
04-26-2010, 03:54 PM
It looks like a bus http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

What is this

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/POLISH_PILOT/qwe982.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/POLISH_PILOT/qwe981.jpg

robtek1957
04-26-2010, 04:51 PM
The center panel is common in many english aircraft, the position of the compass points me toward hurricane, but the characteristic floor panels are missing and the stick is in one piece???
a special version of the hurri, maybe?

WTE_Galway
04-26-2010, 05:03 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by robtek1957:
The center panel is common in many english aircraft, the position of the compass points me toward hurricane, but the characteristic floor panels are missing and the stick is in one piece???
a special version of the hurri, maybe? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

oh yeah definitely British the PII Compass is a give away.

The oxygen regulator to the left is a Mk 10A by the look of it, more commonly seen on heavy bombers like a lanc .. which this clearly is not. Does possibly suggest maybe a crew of two or more though.

No gunsight ?? Replaced by something resembling a gear indicator ?

hurri style rudder pedals

robtek1957
04-27-2010, 09:11 AM
As i couldn't find any cockpit pictures of the fairey albacore and the stick in the quiz-pictures looks a bit like the swordfish stick it might be a fairey albacore.

VF-17_Jolly
04-27-2010, 09:36 AM
no sorry no an Albacore or a Hurricane very Britsh though.

The lack of gunsight is a big clue

TinyTim
04-27-2010, 09:40 AM
Boulton Paul Defiant?

VF-17_Jolly
04-27-2010, 09:48 AM
TT has it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif


http://www.mapsl.co.uk/

TinyTim
04-27-2010, 09:57 AM
Thanks Jolly.

Continuing the defensive armament topic - name the weapon and the plane:

http://www.shrani.si/f/2p/Cb/16mSpsCc/q.jpg

robtek1957
04-27-2010, 10:47 AM
Boulton-Paul Type H Mark II 20mm. mid-upper turret is shown, mounted in a Lancaster bomber.

TinyTim
04-27-2010, 10:55 AM
Wow that was faster than I thought. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Your turn robtek.

robtek1957
04-27-2010, 11:10 AM
Thanks TinyTim.

And another id (markings removed)

http://robtek.de/quiz41.jpg

Dance
04-27-2010, 11:17 AM
FGP 227 quarter scale model of the BV 238?

robtek1957
04-27-2010, 11:34 AM
Yes Mr. Dance. You, again! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Dance
04-27-2010, 12:02 PM
Thanks MrR, I think lol.

Ok this one wasn't a military aircraft, but many military aircraft benefited from it, some of these flew before the end of WW2 but many didn't see operational service till after WW2.

What is it?

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss207/Dancewaffe/q418.jpg

Dance
04-27-2010, 03:31 PM
A clue then, as I am off to bed in the next hour or so.

This aircraft was built on a requirement from a major aero engine manufacturer and was constructed by two well known aircraft companies as a joint venture.

Dance
04-28-2010, 05:51 AM
Here's another view of one (there were two built), and underneath that a picture that reveals an engine that this aircraft tested.

Edit: I've found some new information that suggests it was not a joint construction project and was built by one manufacturer only. I will accept the dual or single manufacturer name.

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss207/Dancewaffe/q418-1.jpg

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss207/Dancewaffe/q418-2.jpg

VF-17_Jolly
04-28-2010, 10:21 AM
Well the top one looks a little like a Vultee vengance and the second from bottom looks a bit like a P-47. The engine looks like a P&W R-4360 Radial engine but i am stumped as to who built it

Dance
04-28-2010, 10:33 AM
You're right about the engine MrJ http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Although this aircraft tested other engines and props, that's the only one I can confirm. The aircraft may have developed other more commonly used WW2 engines as well but I am not sure.

So Pratt and Whitney gave the original requirement for these aircraft high altitude research aircraft , I'll give it an hour for somebody to come up with the manufacturer and designation. Then I will give the answer as this one might be a bit too tough.

TinyTim
04-28-2010, 10:49 AM
Vought V-326

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif