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BlackHawkLeader
03-11-2004, 02:54 PM
Looking back I cannot believe I started out in EAW using a 300MHZ /46MB Ram IBM, but it handled EAW nicely.
Purchased a NEW PC for the initial release of IL-2 Sturmovik (oh happy dayz, Oh happy dayz)
Went with 512 MB Ram for IL-2 with a 64 MB GForce II Graphics card, and 1.4 Ghz Amd, which was nearly double the then recommended system pecs.

However by the time FB came along, we where really looking at testing things out seriously, because these 1C sims where getting more graphics intensive.

Went to a GiG of DDR Ram, and a Radeon 9700 pro Graphics card, another processor 2.4 Ghz AMD, broad band cable connection (un capped up and down stream)
Loving it in FB, have noticed however the Radeon is sometimes not coping in Lomac, and with Bob on the Horizon, Im starting to think hmmm 2Gig DDR Ram perhaps, see how the Radeon copes in Bob and Lomac after that.

S!

BlackHawkLeader
03-11-2004, 02:54 PM
Looking back I cannot believe I started out in EAW using a 300MHZ /46MB Ram IBM, but it handled EAW nicely.
Purchased a NEW PC for the initial release of IL-2 Sturmovik (oh happy dayz, Oh happy dayz)
Went with 512 MB Ram for IL-2 with a 64 MB GForce II Graphics card, and 1.4 Ghz Amd, which was nearly double the then recommended system pecs.

However by the time FB came along, we where really looking at testing things out seriously, because these 1C sims where getting more graphics intensive.

Went to a GiG of DDR Ram, and a Radeon 9700 pro Graphics card, another processor 2.4 Ghz AMD, broad band cable connection (un capped up and down stream)
Loving it in FB, have noticed however the Radeon is sometimes not coping in Lomac, and with Bob on the Horizon, Im starting to think hmmm 2Gig DDR Ram perhaps, see how the Radeon copes in Bob and Lomac after that.

S!

fulanito_chile
03-11-2004, 03:12 PM
wish i had on gig of Ram http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

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flyingskid2
03-11-2004, 03:13 PM
me

Agamemnon22
03-11-2004, 03:16 PM
I do. It makes me feel like a man :P


Loving it in FB, have noticed however the Radeon is sometimes not coping in Lomac, and with Bob on the Horizon, Im starting to think hmmm 2Gig DDR Ram perhaps, see how the Radeon copes in Bob and Lomac after that.

More RAM above a gig won't have any significant impact on the performance. If you want better performance, upgrade your video card. Or the CPU. Or turn down some settings.

BlackHawkLeader
03-11-2004, 03:30 PM
Actualy already have a lot of settings turned down long ago.
It was interesting to find out how many others went to a Gig of DDR Ram.
I found 512 mb was no longer enough in FB unless you take away from the quality of the Online gaming experience, why should you have to do that?

Cheers

BM357_Raven
03-11-2004, 03:36 PM
I have a couple giggies with hyperthreading..I'm good for the next year or so.. I'm already saving up for my next 10-gigger... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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steve_v
03-11-2004, 03:40 PM
I got a gig of pc3200. Wanting to do some RAM monitoring to see how AEP has impacted gameplay. In v1.22, 650mb-700mb was the sweet spot.

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CRSutton
03-11-2004, 03:42 PM
I boosted up to a gig of ram. Got a 1.8 AMD and a 64 mb nvida card and the game works fine with no stutter. Off line that is. Rarely go on line.

blabla0001
03-11-2004, 04:00 PM
I have a gig of RAM, it's great. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Bearcat99
03-11-2004, 04:10 PM
I started simming with a 386DX2,4M video and 8M RAM. When I got into online simming in CFS1 I hada PII233MHZ,128M,16Mvideo setup. Now I have a +2500Barton OCd to +3000 speeds..with a G of DDR400RAM and a 9800Pro. and Im thinking of getting another 512 just to fill outmy RAM slots.

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essemm
03-11-2004, 04:17 PM
I have 1 gig.

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Aviar
03-11-2004, 04:36 PM
Personally, I don't think 512Mb is enough for FB. I use my second computer as a dedicated server on HL. This machine has 512Mb, although I had been thinking of an upgrade.

Since I got AEP, I started hosting again with my primary computer (until dedicated patch is released). This machine has 1.5GB of RAM. I noticed that it was smoother than my other computer, even though I was playing AND hosting.

So, I just put another gig of RAM in my dedicated server machine. If you want to play you gotta pay...http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Fillmore
03-11-2004, 05:00 PM
I have 1GB of RAM. I have been thinking of BoB and what that will need. I would think 2 or even 4GB to get max performance from Oleg's next generation of sim, but do they even have MoBos that support that much RAM yet?

Wemic
03-11-2004, 05:35 PM
Soon to upgrade from from 512 to a gig.

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Aviar
03-11-2004, 05:56 PM
I really don't think anyone should worry about BoB just right now. In my opinion, it's a good 2 years from release.

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p1ngu666
03-11-2004, 06:02 PM
not much worth buyin atm
1gig here http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
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Maj_Death
03-11-2004, 06:05 PM
640mb ancient cheaper than dirt PC133 here. I get 30fps average on medium high detail and that is limited by my crappy GPU. I see no reason to buy another 512mb at this time. FB/AEP loads fast and runs just fine. I doubt there would be a noticable difference if I added another 512mb of RAM nor would there be a difference if I swtiched to PC3200. It might take .65467 seconds off the load time for the average mission, not worth $100 IMHO.

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InyerEye
03-11-2004, 06:40 PM
1 gig Corsair TwinX XMS http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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RAAF_Edin
03-11-2004, 06:46 PM
1 GB PC3200 and 3GHz P4 here ... next PC has to be 2 GB ... and maybe 4GHz CPU :-)

HH Quazi
03-11-2004, 07:38 PM
I have 512 mb of ram. And I don't seem to have any stutters or frezzes or anything. The game plays smoothly offline and online. My video card is even in the bottom half of being close to what some say one needs to play FB smoothly, Nvdia GeForce4 420MX 64 mb using 52.16 driver. I still get frame rates in the 30fps to 40fps @ 1024x768x32 resolution. And that resolution is as far as I want to go. Any higher and it gets harder to see everything, objects or a/c. And all of this is with the AEP. Now I'm sure I'll have to get more ram sometime in the future, maybe when BOB is released, but until then, I can't see the game needing to be any smoother and playable than it already is, at least on my computer. I also do a bit of hosting for my squadron at times with this hardware and it does great. Am I in the minority, in FB running this good with what it has to work with on my computer? Oh yea, this might help anyone who answers my question. I have a P4 w/ 2.4 gig processor and a broadband connection. S!

Teufel_Eldritch
03-11-2004, 08:45 PM
1 gig here. Not as much of as improvement as I hoped but it does the job.

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SwingerSpecial
03-11-2004, 10:29 PM
Maj_death - PC133 is SDRAM, PC3200 is DDR and are not interchangeable. Also, SDRAM is getting expensive as it is being phased out, PC100 especially is starting hit ridiculous prices.

Memory speed does matter however, I could see a clear difference between 512M of PC2100 and 512M of PC3200 on a P4 3.2 (TheBlackDeath is great for testing systems!). Now of course your MB/CPU has to support the faster memory, don't run out and get PC3500 for your Celeron just yet...

Bula
03-11-2004, 11:01 PM
Using 1 gig of PC800 RDRAM with resolution set to 1024x768x32. No stutters offline, but online I usually experience a slight hitch when my targeting recticle first lines up with an a/c online. I'm thinking that's probably not a memory problem, though.

TexasGunslinger
03-12-2004, 12:12 AM
1 GB Corsair TwinX-4400@240Mhz(960MhzTotalFSB HT)
PIV 2.8C OC'd to 3.4 Mhz
Abit IC7 Max 3
Radeon 9800XT (I'll believe the predictions of PCI-X vid cards when I see them)
AA=2X
Excellent
1200X1600X32 @ 60-95fps online

I upgraded recently (primarily to run IL2-FB) from a 512MB limited PIV-1.6.

1 GB hold the entire IL2-FB executable with no disk access during flight.

No stutters, no disk light, incredible experience.

Now if I could just get home from Hawaii (been gone a week for work and still have about 8 days to go, 1 day back and then to D.C.) I could fly!

You don't have to go as far as I did, but a Gig vs 512MB is certainly an improvement

Oh, I forgot...If you are having trouble at hi-res seeing distant targets then turn down the AA. That's why I'm running 2X, so that the specks of distant airplanes are'nt normalized together.

crazyivan1970
03-12-2004, 12:16 AM
1GB both machines..gaming and server

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madsarmy
03-12-2004, 01:39 AM
Ordered the extra ram the day FB was released.
1gig required to save my struggling cpu(xp2100)

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Leech_
03-12-2004, 01:46 AM
Did the same thing, upgradin from g to 1g.

I still remember playing "flying circus" (full blooded sim under 2 megs in size) online with tons on players on my old P150MHz 32mb ram. It was nice looking and fluid as hell http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

IIRC the Gates dude stated in the eraly 70's that no home user will ever need more memory than 512kb.

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ELEM
03-12-2004, 01:52 AM
Hand in the air.

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pcisbest
03-12-2004, 03:07 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SwingerSpecial:
Maj_death - PC133 is SDRAM, PC3200 is DDR and are not interchangeable. Also, SDRAM is getting expensive as it is being phased out, PC100 especially is starting hit ridiculous prices.

Memory speed does matter however, I could see a clear difference between 512M of PC2100 and 512M of PC3200 on a P4 3.2 (TheBlackDeath is great for testing systems!). Now of course your MB/CPU has to support the faster memory, don't run out and get PC3500 for your Celeron just yet...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, I hear you. I got a P4 3C but Im bottled necked due to using PC2700 instead of 3200; I was in desperate need of cash when I built the systme so every dollar counted! Going to get 3200 soon though, as right now I only average 40-odd fps with max details, even though I got a 3C and a 9600Pro, I see people getting higher with Xp2700s and Nvidia cards!

DaBallz
03-12-2004, 04:31 AM
P4 3.2 Extreme clocked at 3.488 (with HT)
ASUS P4S800 MB
1gig PC3200 Corsair RAM
ATI RADEON 9800XT 256
SB Audigy2
1.58 gigs hard drive space (4 drives)
Broad band cable
Windows XP Pro SP1a

If you are running Windows 95, 98, or Me you
really don't need more than 512 megs of RAM.
Using XP you need 1 gig of RAM.

Windows2000 is not really a gaming operating system.
I have used it and it works, but it needs a butt load
of tweeking and you will suffer about 20% frame rate
loss from XP Pro.

da...

txmx
03-12-2004, 04:40 AM
1 GB here as well. Server the same.

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T_O_A_D
03-12-2004, 04:46 AM
1 gig matched corsair 3200
2.4 ht pent cpu
ti4600 128 ram
am able to play with it cranked perfect even online fps stay in the 20's on average. I can get rid of perfect and stay in the 30's But I can see well enough no stutters unlesss near alot of ground objects so I leave it perfect.

My server has i crucial 512 and two 128 sticks not sure on brand and it does fine until we overload my connection.

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Fender74
03-12-2004, 04:52 AM
got 1 gig of ram but also have a crappy vid card so not getting the best out of fb at the mo.

SeaFireLIV
03-12-2004, 04:59 AM
I have an XP Athlon 2100 with 1Gig 2700DDR ram and GF4 TI4200 (not OC yet). I used to have 1 Gig of 2100DDR ram. But when I changed to the 2700DDR and then changed my memory settings in the bios (reduced the 2.5T to 2 as well as the precache etc) the difference really shone. No memory out error crashes, no constant stutters.

Sweet. The only stutter i get seems to happen once or twice in the entire mission and I think it`s due to spawning of more aircraft (harddrive access).

Dogfights are a dream, no stutters at all. And this is over Leningrad proper flying low over the buildings. Watching a burning 109 fall away and smash into a nearby building is amazing and you really get the feeling that the whole of Leningrad is watching you. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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BigBoy01
03-12-2004, 05:02 AM
2 gigs Corsair on my P4, but I still see occasional visual anomolies (sim dependent)and am never sure where the problem (if it really is a problem - may just be at the limit of the hardware and softwares capabilities) lies. Also can vary from 1 sim to the next. CFS2 & FS2002 are phenominal at highest settings, IL2 and FS2004 are very good at 85% to 90% of maximuum settings, Lockon is no problem at medium settings, Falcon will micro-stutter at times, CFS3 continues to improve with graphic card and drivers (I think?! LOL). It's looking more and more to me that as new sims show up they really are built for hardware that's not yet available. That's good in the sense that it won't graphically be as obsolete in 2 to 4 years, it's bad in the sense of "yea, but what do I do till then". I probably don't make it easy on my system as I'm always trying to push the graphics settings till their maxed out, should probably be more moderate with the newer releases.
I am constantly amazed, however,when I read on various forums how a vast range of systems (from low to high end), give different results for different users that don't seem to equate to the "on paper" expectations.
Maybe that's it, varying expectations and interpretations. Two users see the same thing, one is okay with it, the other is disappointed.

Vengeanze
03-12-2004, 05:04 AM
The other day I upgraded from 512 MB --&gt; 1 GB and only gain one lousy frame when running blackdeath.

AMD XP2200
Asus a7v333 FSB 266MHz (4X-agp)
1 GB DDR333 RAM
GeForce ti4200 128MB

Kampfmeister
03-12-2004, 05:05 AM
I have 512Mb of corsair 3200 right now on a 2.66 P4, with an ATI 9800. I plan on getting another 512Mb to crank it up to 1G as soon as I can afford it.

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03-12-2004, 05:13 AM
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SeaFireLIV
03-12-2004, 05:14 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Vengeanze:
The other day I upgraded from 512 MB --&gt; 1 GB and only gain one lousy frame when running blackdeath.

AMD XP2200
Asus a7v333 FSB 266MHz (4X-agp)
1 GB DDR333 RAM
GeForce ti4200 128MB<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

This is a common misconception. Extra Ram doesn`t actually give you extra FPS, it just allows your PC to not need to access the harddrive so much giving a smoother game. It will even FEEL like your PC is faster because they`ll be far less stutters. But if you measure it, you`ll find the FPS has not actually increased by much at all.

Forget measuring it. Just fly the sim for a while and get the `feeling` Luke! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif You should `feel` the improvement.

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Vengeanze
03-12-2004, 05:24 AM
Make sense but many testify to increased performance due to more ram so I just wanted to double-check.

Extreme_One
03-12-2004, 05:26 AM
I agree with Seafire.
No real gain in fps but they seem to fluctuate less so it's far a smoother experience when using 1gig (for me at least)

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Lindgren
03-12-2004, 05:39 AM
1 Gig here too.

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Diablo310th
03-12-2004, 07:25 AM
1 gig of OCX pc500 ddr. I'm leaning toward anotehr gig depending on how much money I win bowling this year.

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x6BL_Brando
03-12-2004, 07:28 AM
I grabbed a gig of Mushkin PC3200 when I upgraded to an NF7-S. With it I am running a 2800+Barton @ 400FSB. It's very smooth both off and on-line. Before that I was using a gig of Corsair XMS PC2700 (same CPU, 333FSB) but getting stutters, freezes and memory errors, especially on the larger maps.

Bull_Pup
03-12-2004, 08:00 AM
I have one gig of pc3500 muskin L2.

With windows XP, AEP/BoE, the saitek profiler, TrackIR2, and ch control manager running I use around 1.3gigs of memory.

This is during a BoE campaign with the ground and air intensity set to high.

Perfect mode, forest and water on max quality, 32 sounds, full 3d sound engine, etc. (everything cranked highest quality basicaly)

Ive disabled any unused process's in xp to trim the fat.

I previously set a fixed page file, but noticed some stuttering over Berlin. I let windows handle the pagefile again and it cured that stutering.

Once you trim the fat off of XP it's an awesome o.s.

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Stop by Black Viper's site, trim off some fat and learn a little in the process.

TgD Thunderbolt56
03-12-2004, 08:06 AM
1 gig pc800 RDRAM on a P4 2.8 Ghz and 5900 Ultra vid card.

It's amazing to see how many people now have 1 gig RAM compared to just 6 months ago.

I'm considering building a new machine, but really want to wait and see what will happen with PCI Express before I get some components. I did however just order 2gig Corsair Twinx pc4400.

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GonzoX
03-12-2004, 03:24 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SwingerSpecial:
Maj_death - PC133 is SDRAM, PC3200 is DDR and are not interchangeable. Also, SDRAM is getting expensive as it is being phased out, PC100 especially is starting hit ridiculous prices.

Memory speed does matter however, I could see a clear difference between 512M of PC2100 and 512M of PC3200 on a P4 3.2 (TheBlackDeath is great for testing systems!). Now of course your MB/CPU has to support the faster memory, don't run out and get PC3500 for your Celeron just yet...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Memory speed differences are motherboard dependent. It depends on the motherboard so some PCs do not see a dramatic difference.

Don't assume that everybody has the same configuration.

For example: If you have a K7S5A like me, the difference is so slight that it really doesn't make a strong argument for the price difference. Went from PC133 SDRAM to PC2100 DDR and have noticed no difference except in the size of my wallet.

SeaFireLIV
03-12-2004, 03:33 PM
Hey Gonzo that`s what I have. I changed from 2100DDR ram to 2700 DDR ram and after changing bios settings saw a big difference. Well worth the cash IMHO.

note: I have trimmed XP well though, so it`s not wasting resources on crap.

steve_v
03-12-2004, 03:39 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SeaFireLIV:
Hey Gonzo that`s what I have. I changed from 2100DDR ram to 2700 DDR ram and after changing bios settings saw a big difference. Well worth the cash IMHO.

note: I have trimmed XP well though, so it`s not wasting resources on crap.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Went from pc2100 to pc3200 and saw a big leap in performance. Good investment for me. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

GonzoX
03-12-2004, 03:40 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SeaFireLIV:
Hey Gonzo that`s what I have. I changed from 2100DDR ram to 2700 DDR ram and after changing bios settings saw a big difference. Well worth the cash IMHO.

note: I have trimmed XP well though, so it`s not wasting resources on crap.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

FWIW, most people on the ECS forum at OCworkbench.com state the difference is negligable.

BTW, what memory settings do you use?

I plan on going to 1 gig some time this year but I also have to look at my other components as my whole system is starting to age. Thing is that I really love this cheap ECS board and do not want to get something else.

AMD Athlon XP 2000+ (1.67GHz)
ECS Elitegroup K7S5A v.3.1 Mainboard (SiS735 Chip Set)
640 Megs of PC2100 266MHz DDR SDRAM. (512+128)
ATi AIW Radeon 8500DV 64 Megs
Onboard SiS900 NIC
Onboard C-Media CMI 9738
One 20 Gig Maxtor
One 40 Gig Maxtor
One 80 Gig Maxtor
One Toshiba model SD-R5002 IDE DVD-R/-RW Drive
Broad band cable
Microsoft Windows XP Professional w/SP1

SeaFireLIV
03-12-2004, 03:56 PM
OK, my system`s identical to yours but OC`d to 2100 (about 1.76). Personally the amount I`ve OC`d doesn`t really make much difference IMHO. I`m using HoneyX.
Graphics card is GF4 Ti4200 128 meg.

The ram is DDR 2700.
settings in Bios are:
SDR/DDR Cas latency: 2T
SDR/DDR ras active tine:5T (careful- any lower it may crash. You may even have to reset CMOS).
SDR/DDR ras precharge time: 3t (any lower may cause probs).

At these settings no problems. Definite big difference on Leningrad in battles (this was with DCG where I would often have more aircraft than stock DGEN).

It`s been this way for about a month now. So it`s stable.

p.s You`re problem may be in the graphic card. I`d go to 128 meg one if you could.

TPCMike
03-12-2004, 03:59 PM
Don't forget that the impact of RAM speed is dependant on the chipset and CPU.

P-IV's are much more hungry for memory bandwidth and will see bigger performance gains using faster RAM than any of the XP platforms.

Personally I wouldn't run a system without 1 gig of RAM now (XMS4400 FYI in my current rig). 2 gig in my servers but that's overkill for a gaming machine.

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TacticalSkirmsh
03-12-2004, 04:07 PM
Been using 1 Gig of RDRam for over a year now; you know, when people said you would NEVER need that much EVER - what are they saying now, oh, ya, you should get 2 Gigs now http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif

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Ironman70
03-12-2004, 04:14 PM
Hey guyz..i'm on Win98SE with 512 DDR ram on a GeForce4ti4400 and i experience 35 frames online and off. Relatively smooth over Leningrad low over buildings get about 18-20 frames.

TPCMike
03-13-2004, 03:40 AM
That's something I forgot to mention.

Win9* can't effectively manage 1 gig of RAM so for 9* users upgrading to that much is pointless unless you go down the XP route as well.

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Two_Hawks
03-13-2004, 05:47 AM
I've got 1 gig of ram.........2 512's ... when i replaced my video card yesterday i noticed one of my memory bars was at a angle, i thought i'd damaged it opening the box. yet it seemed like it was ok just at a angle. this is the first time ive opened this computer. i've not seen mem put in like this. is it ok????

SeaFireLIV
03-13-2004, 06:03 AM
Check your system settings by
hiting START &gt; CONTROL PANEL &gt; click on SYSTEM.
There you will see how much RAM you have. If it says 1.00 GB of RAM, it`s working. Anything less, it`s not.

I would seriously just unhhok the side hook that lock in the ram and simply push down that ram until it`s firm and level. I bet you may not even have been using that ram.

Of course be gentle. Wait for the click.

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Two_Hawks
03-13-2004, 06:10 AM
Thanks SeaFireLIV,
system tells me ive got 1 gig ram. Even the slot for the mem bar appears to be at an angle. its a dell 8300. may have done that way to keep the drives from hitting it when case is closed.

SeaFireLIV
03-13-2004, 06:12 AM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I`d leave it as it is then.

SwingerSpecial
03-13-2004, 06:23 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by pcisbest:

Going to get 3200 soon though, <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

If you're feeling like spending some money, might as well go straight to PC3500. Even though it's primarily geared towards overclocked systems, the lower clock latency helps in any case. Now all this of course, providing that your CPU/MB will support this... also, note that some boards like ASUS's with Intel 865 & 875 chipsets support memory interleaving - for maximum performance the memory needs to be added in pairs.

Old_Canuck
03-13-2004, 07:56 AM
2 gigs. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

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VVanks
03-13-2004, 08:36 AM
I've got a gig. That's only because my lovely friend gave me his extra 512. (He bought OCZ Ram and then his corsair ram didn't look very nice anymore, so he gave 'em to me, http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif)

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DONB3397
03-13-2004, 09:07 AM
1 gig.

It's like counter-measures in electronic warfare. Upgraded my one-year old P4 2.5 four times now. More ram, new vid card, second internal hard drive, DSL and router. No more slots. And I know the whole rig has to be replaced as soon as BoB comes out. I always considered this my most cost-effective hobby...but I'm beginning to wonder.

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huggy87
03-13-2004, 10:24 AM
256MB!

Aren't I the cool kid on the block.

Teufel_Eldritch
03-13-2004, 11:14 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TPCMike:
That's something I forgot to mention.

Win9* can't effectively manage 1 gig of RAM so for 9* users upgrading to that much is pointless unless you go down the XP route as well.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I used this (http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;108079) & it seemed to work for me. I no longer recieve any memory error messages & my system handles games much better.

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Lav69
03-13-2004, 12:47 PM
Well you can see my specs (1gig, dual channel)and with FB I think 512 is fine as long as you have a strong vid card. Also depends on your vid settings. I run FB 1600x1200 with AA and AF at 2x. Looks fricken beautiful and runs smoother than my 4 month olds bottom. But with LOMAC I recommend a gig no matter what your specs are.

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huggy87
03-13-2004, 05:33 PM
Allright, I'm a *******. I ordered the wrong memory online (said I had an 'inspiron 8200' vice 'dimension 8200').

Anyway, does anyone know why the hell RDRAM is so expensive? I'm going to have to put down $200 dollars just to go from 256 to 512. I'm also about to buy a new 128MB 9800 pro to replace my geforce3. I wonder if this $400 is worth it? I was thinking of getting a whole new machine at the end of this year anyway.

Red_Russian13
03-13-2004, 06:36 PM
2GB of PC something or other. RDRAM. Works nicely for me. Got that neat Dell XPS system with 3.2 GHz processor and ATI Radeon 9800 (128mb). Decent rig.

Rogodin
03-13-2004, 07:39 PM
1 gig of Crucial pc3200-going to get 2 gigs of Kingston 3500 here in the next month (also for the next upgrade)!

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vanelvis
03-13-2004, 07:46 PM
I do