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jarink
05-02-2007, 09:38 AM
I found this the same way I find most interesting things... while looking for something else. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Wound Ballistics (http://history.amedd.army.mil/booksdocs/wwii/woundblstcs/frameindex.html)

It is a study published by the Medical Department, US Army in 1962 using data collected in WWII and Korea. There are several chapters where casualties from different battles are studied in detail. Two of the chpters will be of interest to most people here:

Chapter IX: Survey of Battle Casualties, Eighth Air Force, June, July and August 1944 (http://history.amedd.army.mil/booksdocs/wwii/woundblstcs/chapter9.1.htm)

Chapter X: Directional Density of Flak Fragments and Burst Patterns at High Altitudes (http://history.amedd.army.mil/booksdocs/wwii/woundblstcs/chapter10.htm)

http://history.amedd.army.mil/booksdocs/wwii/woundblstcs/chapter10figure295.jpg

Warning: some of the pictures in this study may not be suitable for younger people.

jarink
05-02-2007, 09:38 AM
I found this the same way I find most interesting things... while looking for something else. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Wound Ballistics (http://history.amedd.army.mil/booksdocs/wwii/woundblstcs/frameindex.html)

It is a study published by the Medical Department, US Army in 1962 using data collected in WWII and Korea. There are several chapters where casualties from different battles are studied in detail. Two of the chpters will be of interest to most people here:

Chapter IX: Survey of Battle Casualties, Eighth Air Force, June, July and August 1944 (http://history.amedd.army.mil/booksdocs/wwii/woundblstcs/chapter9.1.htm)

Chapter X: Directional Density of Flak Fragments and Burst Patterns at High Altitudes (http://history.amedd.army.mil/booksdocs/wwii/woundblstcs/chapter10.htm)

http://history.amedd.army.mil/booksdocs/wwii/woundblstcs/chapter10figure295.jpg

Warning: some of the pictures in this study may not be suitable for younger people.

LEBillfish
05-02-2007, 09:57 AM
Interesting stuff..........though the unexploded 88mm Flak projectile to the head may have been a bit of overkill.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

(no disrespect toward the deceased intended)

Waldo.Pepper
05-02-2007, 11:28 AM
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/WaldoPepper/bullets/banana.jpg

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shotdownski
05-02-2007, 01:22 PM
Yeah Jarink, I stumbled across those reports about a year ago researching my uncle (B-17 pilot KIA). Those crews had some ba11s flying through heavy artilery barrages with virtually no protection and no where to hide.

Aaron_GT
05-02-2007, 01:47 PM
Even with the steel helmets and sometimes steel plate apron things (hard to describe) some wore it was virtually unprotected. The crew attrition rate for USAAF and RAF bomber crews was huge. It was an achievement to make it to 25 missions in one piece. Condemning men due to lack of moral fibre showed a lack of understanding of the hell they went through. Going over the top in WW1 was safer, I've heard it said.

Hanglands
05-02-2007, 02:43 PM
Hi,

"Condemning men due to lack of moral fibre showed a lack of understanding of the hell they went through"

Well said.



All very interesting material there. Harrowing as a matter of necessity in places, but very informative thanks for the links, Jarink.

Regards.

John_Wayne_
05-02-2007, 02:52 PM
I agree with Hanglands.

Thanks.

TC_Stele
05-02-2007, 03:22 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LEBillfish:
Interesting stuff..........though the unexploded 88mm Flak projectile to the head may have been a bit of overkill.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

(no disrespect toward the deceased intended) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That was intense. Gives you a different perspective of how hellish it was up there.

ploughman
05-02-2007, 03:31 PM
Interesting stuff that reminds us of the nature and cost of war. Some of the data was a bit counter-intuitive too. Thanks.