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woofiedog
03-08-2007, 06:43 AM
http://www.liberatorcrew.com/15_Gunnery/Photos/LifeCover_T.jpg

A quick read article on the aircraft mounted 30 cal machine guns.

Quote... The Browning .30 caliber is a work of art. It weighs nearly 1/3 less than it's ground cousin weighs. Virtually every part has been machined to reduce its weight. With a 300 mile per hour slip stream to cool it, the barrel can be thin and light.

Link: http://www.liberatorcrew.com/15_Gunnery/02_30cal.htm

woofiedog
03-08-2007, 06:43 AM
http://www.liberatorcrew.com/15_Gunnery/Photos/LifeCover_T.jpg

A quick read article on the aircraft mounted 30 cal machine guns.

Quote... The Browning .30 caliber is a work of art. It weighs nearly 1/3 less than it's ground cousin weighs. Virtually every part has been machined to reduce its weight. With a 300 mile per hour slip stream to cool it, the barrel can be thin and light.

Link: http://www.liberatorcrew.com/15_Gunnery/02_30cal.htm

Blutarski2004
03-08-2007, 08:00 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by woofiedog:
http://www.liberatorcrew.com/15_Gunnery/Photos/LifeCover_T.jpg

A quick read article on the aircraft mounted 30 cal machine guns.

Quote... The Browning .30 caliber is a work of art. It weighs nearly 1/3 less than it's ground cousin weighs. Virtually every part has been machined to reduce its weight. With a 300 mile per hour slip stream to cool it, the barrel can be thin and light.

Link: http://www.liberatorcrew.com/15_Gunnery/02_30cal.htm </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



..... Where can I get the T-Shirt?

BSS_AIJO
03-08-2007, 08:04 AM
dang!

you beat me too it.. So, where can we get the t-shirt.


Heck, a better version of the image would be nice.. Could probably trace it out in adobe illistrator and send it to cafe-press.


BSS_AIJO

VonKlugermon
03-08-2007, 08:06 AM
T-Shirt?

Here:

http://lakescreenprinting.com/milproddetail.asp?Prod_ID=6

Willy

VonKlugermon
03-08-2007, 08:24 AM
Who is the fellow was on the cover?

Found this:

Alexander Le Gerda, 853rd Ordnance Company, Gunnery School, Las Vegas, Nevada

Wonder if he's still with us...

Willy

T_O_A_D
03-08-2007, 08:49 AM
Thanks grab that one and the P-51, and the B-17 one. Thought about a couple others but decided to stop there.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VonKlugermon:
T-Shirt?

Here:

http://lakescreenprinting.com/milproddetail.asp?Prod_ID=6

Willy </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Bearcat99
03-08-2007, 09:55 AM
Interestingly enough it would appear that the Mustang.. at least the one being fitted by armorers in the picture below anyway.. has AP incendiary rounds... Thats a a great site too BTW....

http://www.liberatorcrew.com/15_Gunnery/50cal/MustangAmmo2.jpg
based on this chart (http://www.liberatorcrew.com/15_Gunnery/09_ammo.htm) and this picturehttp://www.liberatorcrew.com/15_Gunnery/tech/Ammo/Types_03.jpg

JG53Frankyboy
03-08-2007, 09:59 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bearcat99:
Interestingly enough it would appear that the Mustang.. at least the one being fitted by amorers in the picture below anyway.. has AP incendiarty rounds... Thatsa a great site too BTW....

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

P-47 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
anyway, few have doubted that........ its just so that Maddox decided to put not much API in the .50cal Browning belt in game http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif (Browning .50 // APIT - AP - HE - AP &lt;- actually a dead horse)


to compare some of the light MGs:
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/8217/fgun/fgun-pe.html

i would say the soviet SchKas was the best of the breed.............

Bearcat99
03-08-2007, 10:04 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JG53Frankyboy:
P-47 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
anyway, few have doubted that........ its just so that Maddox decided to put not much API in the .50cal Browning belt in game http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What do you mean? Thats a P-51 in the pic.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

JG53Frankyboy
03-08-2007, 10:07 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bearcat99:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JG53Frankyboy:
P-47 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
anyway, few have doubted that........ its just so that Maddox decided to put not much API in the .50cal Browning belt in game http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What do you mean? Thats a P-51 in the pic.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

thats Gabreskies P-47 !!
just as one points, it has 4 guns in one wing

K_Freddie
03-08-2007, 11:02 AM
I see only 3 open breech's, but 4 ammo stores.
That front section of the CPit screams P47 to me.
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Vipez-
03-08-2007, 12:24 PM
Definately looks more like P-47 than P-51.

CD_kp84yb
03-08-2007, 12:46 PM
Hey that site has the same pic. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f163/cd_kp84yb/armorers_lg.jpg

Watch the colours of the tips

ok zoom a little

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f163/cd_kp84yb/zoomin.jpg

and cheers

berg417448
03-08-2007, 12:58 PM
Yup...Gabreski's P-47:

http://www.afa.org/magazine/Nov2005/1105gabreski.asp

http://www.aikensairplanes.com/images/Gaby_Gabreski__Cr...P-47_Thunderbolt.jpg (http://www.aikensairplanes.com/images/Gaby_Gabreski__Crew__P-47_Thunderbolt.jpg)

T_O_A_D
03-08-2007, 02:07 PM
Ok I'm confused, how did a 30 caliber thread turn into a 50 cal thread? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

VW-IceFire
03-08-2007, 02:56 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bearcat99:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JG53Frankyboy:
P-47 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
anyway, few have doubted that........ its just so that Maddox decided to put not much API in the .50cal Browning belt in game http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What do you mean? Thats a P-51 in the pic.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
No man...soon as I saw it...I knew that was a P-47 and not a P-51 at all.

But you are right about the .50cals mounted there. Looks like pure API. I don't see any APIT either...

JG52Karaya-X
03-08-2007, 03:03 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CD_kp84yb:
Watch the colours of the tips

ok zoom a little

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f163/cd_kp84yb/zoomin.jpg

and cheers </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Looks 100% black tips to me --&gt; 100% AP

Bearcat99
03-08-2007, 10:08 PM
ROFLMAO..... OK... you are right... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif Sure looked like a P-51 to me.

LStarosta
03-08-2007, 10:19 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JG52Karaya-X:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CD_kp84yb:
Watch the colours of the tips

ok zoom a little

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f163/cd_kp84yb/zoomin.jpg

and cheers </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Looks 100% black tips to me --&gt; 100% AP </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You are wrong.

It's just the contrast of the photo.

Aluminum is reflective.

The ammo belts are in a relatively dark location in the picture, hence they reflect dark.

Trust me, I have an associates degree in underwater flora photography. I would know.

woofiedog
03-08-2007, 10:52 PM
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FritzGryphon
03-09-2007, 05:07 AM
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Old ladies making a thread that reaches the sky. This should be mandatory in every 50cal thread that goes more than 10 pages http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif