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VK_Dim
12-15-2004, 01:59 AM
Well since this is holidays time i got some more money in my budget.
I am havin second thoughts on what to buy, 21" monitor or a new graphic card.
I'm currently playin on SONY 17" and Radeon 9800.
New monitor is SAMSUNG CRT SM1100DF 21
or GF 6600GT

Please advice me.
Thanx
S!

LEXX_Luthor
12-15-2004, 02:09 AM
As I run ATI~9200 at 1280x960 on 17" screen, you could use a bump in monitor with ATI~9800.

From my understanding reading other's experience, your Choice depends on what you use your video card for.

If you max the resolution, say 1600x1200 with whatever Quality settings you can get away with, you may want large monitor for that 1600x1200.

If you max the Quality settings at low resolution, say, Perfect Mode, AA, AF, you could get higher settings with new video card.

I reccomend 1600x1200 and large monitor. The new Patch seems to have better rendered small aircraft grafix for distant aircraft, and its stunning seeing the sky full of tiny distant aircraft that I can actually identify when running at 1280x960, instead of sky full of tiny lobs when running 1024x768.

LLv26_Morko
12-15-2004, 06:44 AM
I´d Stick with the radeon and http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif get the new monitor!

steve_v
12-15-2004, 07:41 PM
If you decide on a new video card and can wait until Feb., you'll see prices take a good drop. The same cannot be said for the monitor.

Owlsphone
12-15-2004, 08:24 PM
I agree with Steve. That 9800 is a great card. A good monitor can last many many years if you treat it right. The vid card prices will come down early next year and that's when you should upgrade your vid.

BaldieJr
12-15-2004, 09:07 PM
Get a 12ms LCD.

Then come here and tell everyone how awesome it is while these nutters blab about how LCD's suck compared to CRT's.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Bigger is not better. Seriously.

adlabs6
12-15-2004, 09:22 PM
If I already had a 9800Pro, I'd probably get the bigger monitor.

EDIT: And yes I LUV my 17" LCD, so it'd be a 19" or 20" LCD I'd get.

bird_brain
12-15-2004, 09:23 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BaldieJr:
Bigger is not better. Seriously. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
That's not what she said...... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Go for a 22" Viewsonic CRT and the whole game gets bigger! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

knightflyte
12-15-2004, 09:26 PM
adlads6 said:
If I already had a 9800Pro....


I have a 9800Pro 128MB laying around collecting dust if you're interested.

regards,
Robert

adlabs6
12-16-2004, 12:10 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by knightflyte:
adlads6 said:
If I already had a 9800Pro....


I have a 9800Pro 128MB laying around collecting dust if you're interested.

regards,
Robert <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks for the offer, but I just blew my little budget on a new AMD Sempron 3100+/Abit KV8 Pro setup. The Sempron should last me until the 3700+ chip falls to a reasonable price. I've already got an FX5900 which should match the new CPU pretty well. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

slarsson
12-16-2004, 12:45 AM
Get the Samsung.
I have one with my 9800 pro and Athlon 64 3200+

It looks just incredible at 1600x1200

And no ghosting or tearing.

Owlsphone
12-16-2004, 12:48 AM
Baldie, you're impressed by the 12ms panels? Pfff. Yesterdays news. The 8 ms panels came out today I believe. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

pettera
12-16-2004, 02:08 AM
I have X800 XT running max on everything (1600x1400, perfect). Gives me 80-95 frames on simple dogfight maps, 30-50 in less favourable (shoreline, trees, lots of flak,...) circumstances and 10fps above Leningrad or any other significant town (houses kills it).

Petter

Capt.LoneRanger
12-16-2004, 04:25 AM
You can get a 6ms-TFT this month (or January 2005?)

But the ms-race is nonsense - the value is measured from a single dot switching from black to white to black again. That's ridiculous itself, cause you seldomly go from black to white or the other way round. The more difficult thing is from one degree of grey to another.
But that's the second problem with this test: According to the test parameters, the color black/white is reached, when the dot is 85% black/white. But it is these 15% that make the blur and shadows. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

I got a BenQ 767-12. It's very good and I cannot complain, but I didn't buy a TFT because of the things it can achieve, but for the reason that I travell a lot with my whole desktop and my 19" monitor died half a year ago http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif

What other hardware do you have? 9800pro is an excellent gfx-card! Maybe you can invest in memory or a faster CPU?

shteve
12-16-2004, 04:35 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by pettera:
I have X800 XT running max on everything (1600x1400, perfect). Gives me 80-95 frames on simple dogfight maps, 30-50 in less favourable (shoreline, trees, lots of flak,...) circumstances and 10fps above Leningrad or any other significant town (houses kills it).

Petter <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


I'm running an Ati Radeon 9000 series card and I'm averaging 35-40 fps, how cool is that!!

VK_Dim
12-16-2004, 05:07 AM
Well, now there is no LCD that can math CRTs made by SONY, IIYAMA or MITSHUBISHI.
Maybe in the near future...
LCDs are good for offices and banks http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Capt.LoneRanger
12-16-2004, 05:14 AM
No, TFTs are nice and will be the future of monitors. It really depends on what games you play. If I play, I do fly IL2. Almost any TFT on the market will be sufficient for that.

But I also play UT2004 and there are some occasions, when you really DO see traces and shadows. Not all the time and not severe, you even get used to it very quickly, but you can see the limits of this technology.
Mitsubishi invented a completely new form of TFT-displays, that will allow 3m+ diameter screen with 2ms and less, but there won't be any products on the computer market for until the end of 2005. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif (And I guess they cost an arm and a leg to buy)

gmot_ka
12-16-2004, 05:51 AM
Buy the new card and send me your old one http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif I'm still have an Radeon 8500. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

To be serious, I would buy a bigger monitor in your case.