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FlakMagnent
03-22-2005, 03:41 AM
I think we should get the addon we have all been promised and waiting on before we get another patch. I mean the flight models are fine in my book but they just seem to keep putting off the addon. Anyone tell me why we are getting another patch instead?

HW3
03-22-2005, 04:45 AM
The patch includes the addon. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

XyZspineZyX
03-22-2005, 06:04 AM
Hello,

A Patch is free
A Addon is not.

That's a major diference...

Sensei.

JG53Frankyboy
03-22-2005, 06:27 AM
well, oleg is calling something that fixes bugs and adding few new stuff like planes and object a PATCH.

than, if something will add lot of new stuff like planes, maps, objects and new feature he is calling that a ADON - payable ore free doesnt count.
sure a PATCH in that terms should not be payable http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

womenfly
03-22-2005, 06:51 AM
Does it really matter??????? As long as we are getting an improvement ..... I think not. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

SaQSoN
03-22-2005, 07:34 AM
Hm... Was there ever promissed an addon? Never heard anything about it.
Or is it another "we promise ourselfs something and then blame 1C or Ubi for not having it"?
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

JFC_danger
03-22-2005, 07:40 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SaQSoN:
Hm... Was there ever promissed an addon? Never heard anything about it.
Or is it another "we promise ourselfs something and then blame 1C or Ubi for not having it"?
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

PMSL

JFC_danger
03-22-2005, 07:44 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by womenfly:
Does it really matter??????? As long as we are getting an improvement ..... I think not. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

well actually, if you fly PF stand alone, it does.
many merged and il2 pilots come to pf to have a moan at us, they should stay in their forums as their fixes and addons are far superior to ours.
S!~.
fair skies to all........LOL

VW-IceFire
03-22-2005, 07:53 AM
Oleg uses patch and addon interchangably. The upcoming patch is an "addon". It will be version 4.0. For download...not too complicated http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

JG53Frankyboy
03-22-2005, 07:53 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SaQSoN:
Hm... Was there ever promissed an addon? Never heard anything about it.
Or is it another "we promise ourselfs something and then blame 1C or Ubi for not having it"?
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=63110913&m=3041012492

and i dont know the english ore russian readme, but this is from the german one (PF release):
"ACHTUNG: Aufgrund der Tatsache, dass auf 2 CDs einfach nicht genügend Paltz war, mussten wir einige spielbare Flugzeuge und Cockpits entfernen. Diese werden ni Kürze als Add-On auf www.pacific-fighters.com (http://www.pacific-fighters.com) zum kostenlosen Download bereit gestellt"

not complaining ! just to remember

flyingscampi
03-22-2005, 08:15 AM
I think Oleg should just relase a Betty patch/add-on/update (delete as applicable) right now and end all this "where's the content we were promised" madness.

Extreme_One
03-22-2005, 08:46 AM
In the current context:-

Patch = Addon

Addon = Patch

Simple http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Fresshness
03-22-2005, 08:57 AM
I'm still waiting for that content of that (in)famous '3rd CD'...

all I can say is: "Liar, Liar, pants on fire"

Capt._Tenneal
03-22-2005, 09:00 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SaQSoN:
Hm... Was there ever promissed an addon? Never heard anything about it.
Or is it another "we promise ourselfs something and then blame 1C or Ubi for not having it"?
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

From the most recent development news by Oleg in the ORR forum (partial quote) :

" Hi all.

I was sick more than one week, howere the work was not stop

So from today (or Monday) we will begin to test 4.0 version. Yes 4.0, but not 3.05...
Simply because it deserve to name as new thing...

The main change - new general FM.
The description from readme:

V4.0 introduces the pre-BoB Flight Model (FM). In this <span class="ev_code_YELLOW">add-on </span> we are partially introducing FM from our next simulation (BOB) for worldwide test in our current engine. Flight model in the version 4.0 was already extensively tested by nearly 40 real pilots from around the world and we received very positive feedback.
It is likely that some people may have a problem in their first attempts to fly with the new flight model, especially with take-offs and landings when FM is set to €˜realistic€. However, once you understand the differences and get used to it, everything will fall into its place. We would like to point out, that the new FM will take more system resources to run, especially when many aircraft are in the air at the same time. It doesn€t matter if it is human or AI, because our AI pilots use the same FM!" [END QUOTE]

Dexmeister
03-22-2005, 09:03 AM
I'm probably in the minority here but I'll go out on a limb and say that I'd much prefer an add-on over a patch because a patch leaves me with a feeling that the game is defective or something, which can make me pretty nervous at times, lost sleep, etc, while the mere fleeting thought of an add-on makes my ears and @!#$%& perk up like a kid in a candy store, and while subliminally I'm thinking "WOW! BONUS!", on the outside I become as giddy as a teeny bopper schoolgirl reeling in admiration and uncontrollable anticipation, gushing and glowing from glorious glee of gargantuan proportions.

You say tomato, I say potato, in the end, can't we all just get along?

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Aero_Shodanjo
03-22-2005, 09:27 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Extreme_One:
In the current context:-

Patch = Addon

Addon = Patch

Simple http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I believe a member of this community offered an IL2 "addon" that you can stitch to your jacket.

Or was it a patch? update? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

arjisme
03-22-2005, 09:28 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Fresshness:
I'm still waiting for that content of that (in)famous '3rd CD'...

all I can say is: "Liar, Liar, pants on fire" <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Did Oleg promise to give us a 3rd CD? I don't think that is true, but if so, can you show where? It wasn't mentioned on the box. He referenced a 3rd CD in the readme, but I don't recall him promising we would get a 3rd CD. The only thing advertised for PF that we haven't got is the flyable Betty and we know that is coming in the next patch.

WOLFMondo
03-22-2005, 09:36 AM
He said along time ago after its release he would provide the content of the 3rd CD at some point. Im sure if you do a search you can probably find it.

GT182
03-22-2005, 09:57 AM
That's why Oleg is in charge... it's his baby and they'll get it out to us when "THEY" feel it's done, and done the way "THEY" want. Patch, addon, whaterever.

arjisme
03-22-2005, 10:33 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WOLFMondo:
He said along time ago after its release he would provide the content of the 3rd CD at some point. Im sure if you do a search you can probably find it. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Tried a search. Found nothing. I hear a number of people claiming that we've been promised this 3rd CD, but have never seen an actual reference. I think it is an urban myth. Folks have misinterpreted the readme. My theory anyhow. Search found nothing. Got a link? I'd love to see it.

Chivas
03-22-2005, 10:36 AM
I'm sure Oleg is releasing the unfinished (patch/add-on) right at this moment because we are demanding it. LMFAO http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

Mackane1
03-22-2005, 02:38 PM
...this is one of the dumbest threads I've ever seen... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

ploughman
03-22-2005, 03:08 PM
I paid for Versions 1, 2, & 3; Il2 FB, AEP, and PF respectively. I will get to download version 4 for free. Thanks Oleg, you're a mate.

Airmail109
03-22-2005, 03:15 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FlakMagnent:
I think we should get the addon we have all been promised and waiting on before we get another patch. I mean the flight models are fine in my book but they just seem to keep putting off the addon. Anyone tell me why we are getting another patch instead? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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GonzoX
03-22-2005, 03:36 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ar****e:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WOLFMondo:
He said along time ago after its release he would provide the content of the 3rd CD at some point. Im sure if you do a search you can probably find it. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Tried a search. Found nothing. I hear a number of people claiming that we've been promised this 3rd CD, but have never seen an actual reference. I think it is an urban myth. Folks have misinterpreted the readme. My theory anyhow. Search found nothing. Got a link? I'd love to see it. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You must not have looked very hard because this is now common knowlege.

If you really need a link I will give you one when I get off work.

But for now, try reading your very own readme.txt file for starters and tell me what you find.

GonzoX
03-22-2005, 04:00 PM
Here is why your ubi search could not find anything:

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=26310365&m=1681011192

Tailgator
03-22-2005, 07:30 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JG53Frankyboy:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SaQSoN:
Hm... Was there ever promissed an addon? Never heard anything about it.
Or is it another "we promise ourselfs something and then blame 1C or Ubi for not having it"?
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=63110913&m=3041012492

and i dont know the english ore russian readme, but this is from the german one (PF release):
"ACHTUNG: Aufgrund der Tatsache, dass auf 2 CDs einfach nicht genügend Paltz war, mussten wir einige spielbare Flugzeuge und Cockpits entfernen. Diese werden ni Kürze als Add-On auf http://www.pacific-fighters.com zum kostenlosen Download bereit gestellt"

not complaining ! just to remember <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

the english version-
Attention:
We simply ran out of space on our 2 CDs and had to remove some cockpits for
several flyable aircraft. Free add-on containing these aircraft will be made
available at www.pacific-fighters.com (http://www.pacific-fighters.com) for a free download.

i assume the cockpits for the several flyable aircraft was the betty and the american aircraft and ships fubared by the litigation, hence the 3rd cd wasnt ever promised, but the cockpits that they couldnt fit on the 2cd limit were.

i couldnt care less about em anymore, or the new FM, or BOB.

well maybe alittle, but not much http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

arjisme
03-22-2005, 08:29 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by GonzoX:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ar****e:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WOLFMondo:
He said along time ago after its release he would provide the content of the 3rd CD at some point. Im sure if you do a search you can probably find it. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Tried a search. Found nothing. I hear a number of people claiming that we've been promised this 3rd CD, but have never seen an actual reference. I think it is an urban myth. Folks have misinterpreted the readme. My theory anyhow. Search found nothing. Got a link? I'd love to see it. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You must not have looked very hard because this is now common knowlege. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I know it is common knowledge. That is why I referenced "urban myth." Doesn't make it true though, which is why I asked for a link. I did a search, I've seen it discussed endlessly here, but have never seen it for myself that we were promised a third CD's-worth of material.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
If you really need a link I will give you one when I get off work.

But for now, try reading your very own readme.txt file for starters and tell me what you find. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Now that I am home from work, I did recheck my readme. Here is what it says: "Attention: We simply ran out of space on our 2 CDs and had to remove some cockpits for several flyable aircraft. Free add-on containing these aircraft will be made available at www.pacific-fighters.com (http://www.pacific-fighters.com) for a free download."

This does not say we will get a 3rd CD full of new stuff. It says they ran out of room on 2 CDs for all they wanted to include. Basically, it promises "some cockpits" for several flyable aircraft. As far as I know, we are indeed going to be getting that, and more, with the 4.0 patch.

When I hear people talking about the 3rd CD that is due them, it sounds like they think they were promised a large amount of stuff (which would fill a 3rd CD), when in fact they were not. In fact, it sounds like we will be getting a large amount of stuff anyhow, so there really is no reason for anyone to claim they are not keeping their promises.

EnGaurde
03-22-2005, 08:53 PM
*strikes a tuning note...*

here we go round the pointless argument

the pointless argument

the pointless argument

here we go round the pointless argument

so earl-eyeeee in the moooorning.

FlakMagnent
03-22-2005, 10:09 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FlakMagnent:
I think we should get the addon we have all been promised and waiting on before we get another patch. I mean the flight models are fine in my book but they just seem to keep putting off the addon. Anyone tell me why we are getting another patch instead? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Okay. I know see the error of my ways and I am man enought to admitt that I may not have read into the subject deeply enough. Sorry for posting without enough info.

JR_Greenhorn
03-22-2005, 10:26 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FlakMagnent:
I know see the error of my ways and I am man enough to admit that I may not have read into the subject deeply enough. Sorry for posting without enough info. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Boy, you sure don't see that very often...

96th_Nightshifter
03-22-2005, 10:41 PM
Oustanding http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

JFC_danger
03-23-2005, 03:25 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ar****e:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WOLFMondo:
He said along time ago after its release he would provide the content of the 3rd CD at some point. Im sure if you do a search you can probably find it. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Tried a search. Found nothing. I hear a number of people claiming that we've been promised this 3rd CD, but have never seen an actual reference. I think it is an urban myth. Folks have misinterpreted the readme. My theory anyhow. Search found nothing. Got a link? I'd love to see it. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

this is direct from thge readme
NOTE: Most other new aircraft modeled in PF use automatic or single-step superchargers that do not require manual control.


Attention:
We simply ran out of space on our 2 CDs and had to remove some cockpits for
several flyable aircraft. Free add-on containing these aircraft will be made
available at www.pacific-fighters.com (http://www.pacific-fighters.com) for a free download.

thats it. so enough now.......ehhhh