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02-01-2004, 08:39 PM
What's an "a/c" apart from an air conditioner and what exactly does "Sturmovik" mean and why is this game named so?


02-01-2004, 08:39 PM
What's an "a/c" apart from an air conditioner and what exactly does "Sturmovik" mean and why is this game named so?


02-01-2004, 08:42 PM

\AC Aircraft

Sturmovik: Nick for the Russian Ilyushin II attack aircraft. Means something like "stormer" or "attack aircraft" .


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02-01-2004, 08:45 PM
gotcha... I should have been able to work the a/c thing out myself... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

02-01-2004, 08:50 PM
The AC designation is also used for Aircraft Commander on a multi crewed military plane.

02-01-2004, 08:54 PM
Another thing...

I thought they were called Me-109s rather than Bf-109s, no?

Where does the Bf designation come from?

02-01-2004, 09:02 PM
From what I can remember on this subject, Me 109 was used alot during the war since the planes number was known to be 109 and the manufacturer was Messerschmidt and because that was the typical naming convention for German aircraft at the time as well.

Infact the Me 109 was known as the Bf 109 in the Luftwaffe. It was the manufacturers production prefix so I guess thats what stuck. The same for the Bf 110 although the Me 210/410 and the Me 262 seem to buck that trend it seems.

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02-02-2004, 03:13 AM
Sturmovik in Russian means "attack aircraft".

If I'm not mistaken, the Bf designation originated in a previous name of the Messerschmitt aircraft company - Bayerische Flugzeugwerke. Messerschmitt aircraft developed after 1938 used the Me prefix, but, since the 109 first flew in 1935, it still used the Bf prefix.

02-02-2004, 03:32 AM
Re: Bf/Me109, when the aircraft was first designed manufactured, the company was called (IIRC) BayerischeFlugzeugwerk (spelling?) abbreviated Bf. In the custom of the German military at the time it was designated by factory (Bf) and numeric designation.

Bf was later renamed Messerschmidt (around the time of the E model IIRC) and the aircraft began to be referred to as the Me109. In both Axis and Allied documents both designations were used, even in some case both designations appeared in the same document written and printed by the Messerschmidt factory.


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02-02-2004, 03:38 AM
But BF is the only CORRECT designation.

Bf 108
Bf 109
Bf 110
Me 163
Me 210/410
Me 262

108, 109 and 110 were already designed and under production when Bayersiche Flugzeugwerke was renamed Messerschmitt AG. Therefore the Bf prefix was kept. All new aircraft designed by Messerschmitt after 1938 had the Me prefix.

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