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trident42
02-01-2006, 02:43 PM
Has anyone else got any recommendations for any other good combat sims out there, that aren't too old. I run a dual core AMD 4200 and have had problems with older games running on it, i've seen a few but was wondering what opinions other people have???

trident42
02-01-2006, 02:43 PM
Has anyone else got any recommendations for any other good combat sims out there, that aren't too old. I run a dual core AMD 4200 and have had problems with older games running on it, i've seen a few but was wondering what opinions other people have???

JU88
02-01-2006, 02:46 PM
I was never much of simmer until SH3 came along, I enjoyed IL-2, That just about sums me up really, a simmer newb.

Some of the other guys here are more hardcore, they should be able to help you better.

blue_76
02-01-2006, 02:53 PM
besides the IL2 series, i also have Falcon4: Allied Force, its got a wonderful 700 page manual (in pdf format) though i have it in hard copy as well (from the prev version of falcon 4.0). i've been playing the falcon series since falcon 3.0 and have always been satisfied with the amount of detail.

trident42
02-01-2006, 02:54 PM
i have heard of IL2 and have nearly bought it, but it looks like a dated game, and would probably run into problems on my system.

I too am a simmer novice, SH3 being one of the first sims i played, i love it of course.

trident42
02-01-2006, 02:57 PM
Ahh falcon 4.0 allied force, i have had my eye on that one too. So you would recommend it Blue_76, i heard about the manual, a huge tome of knowledge i believe, and it's only 17.99 on Play.com, it does look good.

JU88
02-01-2006, 03:21 PM
If you are running win XP NOT 64, IL2-Forgotten battles should run just fine.

Fish40
02-01-2006, 03:48 PM
The latest from IL2 is Pacific Fighters. It's not old, and puts you in the thick of the air battles in the South Pacific.I'm sure it would run on your system with no problems.

The problem with running the older games may be due to an incompatability with a newer operating system, mainly XP. I know from my own experience, older games that I have, such as Jane's USAF, and Jane's F-15, won't play on XP. If they do, I can't figure out how to do it. Just a thought though. Incidently, even the original IL2 plays fine on XP for me. I remember SHII had problems with XP, but a patch was developed to allow compatability between the two.

Praetorian_Elite
02-01-2006, 04:43 PM
Lock on modern air combat is good also. It just doesn't have a very large selection of planes.

Zatochi2005
02-01-2006, 05:21 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by trident42:
i have heard of IL2 and have nearly bought it, but it looks like a dated game, and would probably run into problems on my system.

I too am a simmer novice, SH3 being one of the first sims i played, i love it of course. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Huh? Try IL-2 Sturmovik Forgotten Battles + Aces Expansion pack + Pacific Fighters, do a "merged install" and now you got yourself an excellent Combat Flight Simulator. I find myself playing it more than Silent Hunter now.

Check this out.....

IL-2 Sturmovik (http://www.pacific-fighters.com/en/home.php)

Hoatee
02-02-2006, 04:39 AM
You could try some Avalon Hill games - I have three from them (Stalingrad, Crusader and Third Reich).

These will be viewed by many as not fitting the 'sim' category because you are not a pilot, soldier or sailor.

But you are a general or on the High Command. And these games are played like chess (with far more complex rules).

However, even these games are being put beyond reach by new technology (Stalingrad and Crusader seem to have a problem with usb mice, for example - not surprising 'cos they are MS-DOS games).

vanjast
02-02-2006, 09:10 AM
I made this quick rip-off movie form IL2. Give you an idea.
Movie (26MB) (http://www.vanjast.com/images/FWvsP51.avi)

It's got various difficulty settings, but try it on 'Ace mode' first and you'll get the picture http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

trident42
02-02-2006, 09:45 AM
cool video Vanjast, i ordered IL2 for only 7.99. which game was that video made from though, forgotton battles or pacific fighters or whatever.

It does look good, looking forward to trying it out http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

vanjast
02-02-2006, 11:22 PM
PF version 4.02.
There's a final free patch coming out soon, before the next big one from Oleg - 1C..
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nstutt
02-03-2006, 04:33 PM
You are seriously limited in choice these days regarding flight sims -

Falcon 4.0 Allied Force is extremely good but has a huge learning curve.

B17 2 is a brilliant bomber simulation very similar to Silent Hunter 3 in fact in that you manage the crew etc - I think its a better game myself actually. And it is cheaply available these days and graphics are still good.

Battle of Britain 2 Wings of Valour is probably the best WW2 sim around that gives a real flavour of dogfighting. IL2 is supposedly good as well but I never could get into it.

And thats pretty much it. Ten years ago you had millions of choices. Today the sim market is really sad.

Nats

partic_3
02-04-2006, 03:36 AM
"i ordered IL2 for only 7.99."
Um, I hope that was "Forgotten Battles". "IL2 Sturmovik" was the first version and is not compatible with the add-ons.
It's a bit complicated. You want "Forgotten Battles" then the add-on "Aces Expansion Pack", then "Pacific Fighters" to give you, what, 150 flyable aircraft?
Bear in mind you can also play "Pacific Fighters" as a stand alone game but you don't get the planes that are in "Forgotten Battles" and A.E.P.
Also, there are "gold" and "platinum" packs planned that will be a full combined install of all the above plus the immanent free downloadable add-on which has another 10 or so aircraft.

Kaleun1961
02-04-2006, 01:35 PM
Beautiful video, vJ. I'm guessing you were flying the FW-190. Was the A.I. flying the other planes, or humans? How do you record these beautiful videos, in-game or other software?

vanjast
02-04-2006, 02:23 PM
Why thank you, thank you http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif as he picks up his Oscar... I'm honoured to be here tonight...blah blah blah http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Yes - the best plane in the game = FW190 (although others have an acute dislike to it). And Yes AI controlled the other planes. The AI is a bit doff, but it makes no mistakes with regard to flying skill or marksmanship, but it's horribly predictable.

I use a realtime framegrabber software (Fraps - bought this about a year ago - great piece of software - google "fraps") to make the videos. With SH3 I have to do it in-game as there is no record playback facility as in IL2.

The nice thing about IL2 playback is that you can view from any object to any object, at any time, which is ideal for video editing. A bit of this and that, and off you go..
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edt: Sorry wasn't clear on the recording. Fraps software is run in the 'background' and when you hit the record key is does framegrabbing = It just takes the screen image and dumps it to memory/disk as is = AVI format. Thus the recorded files are very large, GBytes worth.
PC/graphics card performance is a big factor but fraps has various optimising options.

vanjast
02-04-2006, 02:43 PM
Here's(51MB) (http://www.vanjast.com/images/DPM.avi) another one if you're interested.

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Kaleun1961
02-04-2006, 02:45 PM
K-61 hangs his head in shame. I got Fraps a long time ago but haven't used it yet. Your videos are giving me the inspiration to do so.

My time is so tight lately. I'm attending school five days a week, hoping to earn my MSCA. The weekends seems to go by in a blur. It's been weeks since I've been to sea.

In a Major Payne inner voice: "It's been nearly a month since I killed me a merchantman. I'm in here getting softer, the British are out there getting stronger every day. Aaaarrrgghh!!!! [Pulls out Hitler Youth dagger and trashes motel room.] http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

vanjast
02-04-2006, 02:48 PM
Books make you go nuts...
I'm busy (self induced trauma) on this DSP (digital signal processsing) theory project and need lots of schnapps http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

CRSutton
02-06-2006, 02:00 PM
Yes, the merged install of IL2 is a must. It really was ahead of its time as far as system requirments go and only came into its own with the cards and machines made in the last year or two.

Best thing bout it is you get to fly tons of obscure aircraft from WWII that you will never see in any other sim. Oh,you still get the vanilla American, Nazi, British mix that every other sim made has but then you then get a load of more obscure aircraft that are a blast to fly. Some of the Russian planes were of the higest caliber and as good as any the Allies flew. My favortie is the TB-3 four engined bomber with two I-16 Rata fighters attached under its wings. What a hoot. There are biplanes, twin engined bombers (not enough), jets, rocket planes, flying bombs.

I have never flown on line but the on line commuty is solid with a variety of servers.

In addition, the maker of the game is still patching it up to fix bugs and improve quality. We are all awaiting a patch to come out in a few days that will have a flyable JU88, mosquito, tempest and three or four Italian fighters as well.

It just does not get any better than IL2.

Silent Hunter III is a great game but I think that follow up support has been poor to fair. Oleg Maddox with his IL2 series is an example of a designer that takes trememdous pride in his product and keep working on it years after the big bucks were made. Quite rare these days.

vanjast
02-07-2006, 02:54 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">...Oleg Maddox with his IL2 series is an example of a designer that takes trememdous pride in his product and keep working on it years after the big bucks were made. Quite rare these days. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hear Hear....
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trident42
02-07-2006, 05:19 AM
Just watched that second video Vanjast, very nice work there. Must take you a lot of time to make those videos. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

dbuff
03-06-2006, 08:13 AM
more sim than you usual FPS - should be excellent

http://www.redorchestragame.com/

i now have 4 games on the Harddrive - In order of aquiring - focus more on SIM style gameplay.
IL-2 (and all subsequent additions)
Red Orchestra Mod
ROME
Silent Hunter III
next - Red Orchestra stand alone

ATTACK_HAMSTER
03-07-2006, 09:24 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I made this quick rip-off movie form IL2. Give you an idea. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

As ever Vanjast you make a blo0dy good film http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

Just wish you could do more http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

I also highly recommend Combat Mission 2
combat mission 2 (http://www.battlefront.com/products/cmbb/cmbb.html)