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danjama
08-22-2007, 06:04 AM
so i see an old man from Harrow mounted the curb and pinned a baby in buggy against a wall killing it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif Possibly the saddest thing i have read in a while. The hardest thing about this is that i dont know who to feel more sorry for, the distraught man or the mother who was also injured in the collision (obviously the mother but...)

It would be much easier if it was an 18 year old just passed his test driving around with his mates messin about, but apparently the man had his jeans caught on his brake pedal. I wonder what will happen to him, and i have endless sympathy for the parents for the loss of their 2month old baby. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Let's also discuss the Russian Bear plane that was escorted from British airspace last week. Two Typhoons were scrambled to meet the bomber. What could all of this mean? Apparently Putin will be looking to go out "with a bang" says The Sun http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif Will be interesting and scary to see what may come of this.

danjama
08-22-2007, 06:04 AM
so i see an old man from Harrow mounted the curb and pinned a baby in buggy against a wall killing it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif Possibly the saddest thing i have read in a while. The hardest thing about this is that i dont know who to feel more sorry for, the distraught man or the mother who was also injured in the collision (obviously the mother but...)

It would be much easier if it was an 18 year old just passed his test driving around with his mates messin about, but apparently the man had his jeans caught on his brake pedal. I wonder what will happen to him, and i have endless sympathy for the parents for the loss of their 2month old baby. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Let's also discuss the Russian Bear plane that was escorted from British airspace last week. Two Typhoons were scrambled to meet the bomber. What could all of this mean? Apparently Putin will be looking to go out "with a bang" says The Sun http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif Will be interesting and scary to see what may come of this.

x6BL_Brando
08-22-2007, 06:47 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">It would be much easier if it was an 18 year old just passed his test driving around with his mates messin about...... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Why? I'm sorry to pick on one observation but it makes no sense if you step back, unless you're saying that it would make it easier for you?

I lost a son in a similarly meaningless way, by another's hand, and I can assure you that it would make no difference at all as far as personal grief is concerned for the family. And would the guilt weigh more heavily on the old man, or on the teenager? You might wonder whether it's worse for the teenager who might certainly live 'with it' for a lot longer. Who knows?

Later, it might be possible for the traumatised mother to forgive the old man with the baggy trousers rather than the teenager who was f***ing about. Or she may never forgive anyone. Again, who knows? Right now it must be terrible for everyone involved, especially the parents. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

That's all you need to know, you can put it down. Speculation on such sadness is inappropriate.

B

danjama
08-23-2007, 12:41 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by x6BL_Brando:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">It would be much easier if it was an 18 year old just passed his test driving around with his mates messin about...... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Why? I'm sorry to pick on one observation but it makes no sense if you step back, unless you're saying that it would make it easier for you?

I lost a son in a similarly meaningless way, by another's hand, and I can assure you that it would make no difference at all as far as personal grief is concerned for the family. And would the guilt weigh more heavily on the old man, or on the teenager? You might wonder whether it's worse for the teenager who might certainly live 'with it' for a lot longer. Who knows?

Later, it might be possible for the traumatised mother to forgive the old man with the baggy trousers rather than the teenager who was f***ing about. Or she may never forgive anyone. Again, who knows? Right now it must be terrible for everyone involved, especially the parents. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

That's all you need to know, you can put it down. Speculation on such sadness is inappropriate.

B </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Let me just reply to this then may it be locked.

There was probably no need to get this back but first let me say sorry for your loss mate i cannot imagine or even begin to think what you went through. I realise looking now that of course nothing will make such a loss easier. What i meant was it wouldn't be as expected from this man, and therefore the family may be confused as to how they should feel towards him, making the loss even harder to deal with. i dont know, maybe i am just bad at explaining things sometimes, even now i dont know how to say what i am thinking. Maybe it's the subject. I just thought it was a very sad story. Sorry for any inconsideration when writing the post http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif

Airmail109
08-23-2007, 12:44 PM
Dont watch to much news

Seriously

I stopped watching it

Its depressing

Divine-Wind
08-23-2007, 02:11 PM
Yeah... All the 'happy' stuff in the news seems to be about Paris Hilton or Mrs. BS or some other ridiculous topic...

My condolences to the family and elderly man involved in the accident, and to you as well, Brando.

DKoor
08-23-2007, 02:26 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Aimail101:Its depressing </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Jediteo
08-23-2007, 05:40 PM
That's just horrible, old people shouldn't be allowed to drive unless checked regularly. Aparent losing a small child, there is probably nothing worse than that.

Monty_Thrud
08-23-2007, 05:54 PM
Dah-am, i agree with Aimail...life is to short to worry about other peoples bad news, life is for living, enjoy.

Copperhead310th
08-23-2007, 07:28 PM
i have a freind about oh..10 years younger than me..i know her uncle very well. Her Doughter was just 3 yrs old. The same unlce was leaving a family BBQ, got into his pickup truck to leave...and backed over the child. He never saw her. That was a sad day for that family.
and a day nither Nessie or her Uncle will ever get over.

heywooood
08-23-2007, 10:24 PM
it is my number one concern - the safety of my son...I heard someone say at a friends funeral that god never lays anything at our feet that we can't handle....I wonder if that person ever lost a child.

I don't know where people get the stength - I had a friend at work whos youngest daughter was murdered by a jealous boyfriend...shot her to death.

I asked James after a time and in the gentlest way possible how he was managing and he said 'poorly...but I have another daughter and a wife so I manage it - some days better than others'...she was, he confided to me, his favorite...she was 19 (not that it matters in the least how old she was to James)

JimmyBlonde
08-23-2007, 10:47 PM
What the **** is this maudlin nonsense?

leitmotiv
08-23-2007, 11:37 PM
You seem morose lately, danjama. I suggest a hot date with a young lady of low moral character to improve your morale.

MEGILE
08-24-2007, 04:55 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by heywooood:
it is my number one concern - the safety of my son...I heard someone say at a friends funeral that god never lays anything at our feet that we can't handle....I wonder if that person ever lost a child.

I don't know where people get the stength - I had a friend at work whos youngest daughter was murdered by a jealous boyfriend...shot her to death.

I asked James after a time and in the gentlest way possible how he was managing and he said 'poorly...but I have another daughter and a wife so I manage it - some days better than others'...she was, he confided to me, his favorite...she was 19 (not that it matters in the least how old she was to James) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't think I could handle loosing a daughter.
It would tear my soul apart.

danjama
08-24-2007, 06:01 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by leitmotiv:
You seem morose lately, danjama. I suggest a hot date with a young lady of low moral character to improve your morale. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I wouldn't say morose, just insightful and thoughtful, the job i am doing at the moment needs very little thought so the mind wonders, and i also spend an hour in the cafe for breakfast so i have time to think alot. I have a great girlfriend, no need for low moral *****s http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

danjama
08-24-2007, 06:03 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Megile:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by heywooood:
it is my number one concern - the safety of my son...I heard someone say at a friends funeral that god never lays anything at our feet that we can't handle....I wonder if that person ever lost a child.

I don't know where people get the stength - I had a friend at work whos youngest daughter was murdered by a jealous boyfriend...shot her to death.

I asked James after a time and in the gentlest way possible how he was managing and he said 'poorly...but I have another daughter and a wife so I manage it - some days better than others'...she was, he confided to me, his favorite...she was 19 (not that it matters in the least how old she was to James) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't think I could handle loosing a daughter.
It would tear my soul apart. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

And i for 1 hope you never have to mate...or any of us here. It surely is one of the true struggles nobody should have to endure.

AlGroover
08-24-2007, 08:48 AM
I don't know any details of this terrible accident but I have noticed a disturbing number of similar tragedies in the news. These usually but not always involve older drivers and often while reversing. The conclusions of the coroner are usually 'put his foot on the accelerator instead of the brake and panicked'. This is a basic design fault in the motor car that puts accelerator and brake under the same foot. It's an accident waiting to happen. This layout persists like the qwerty keyboard, not because it is good but because it has always been so. Just a particular bugbear of mine.

Von_Rat
08-24-2007, 10:35 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by AlGroover:
I don't know any details of this terrible accident but I have noticed a disturbing number of similar tragedies in the news. These usually but not always involve older drivers and often while reversing. The conclusions of the coroner are usually 'put his foot on the accelerator instead of the brake and panicked'. This is a basic design fault in the motor car that puts accelerator and brake under the same foot. It's an accident waiting to happen. This layout persists like the qwerty keyboard, not because it is good but because it has always been so. Just a particular bugbear of mine. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


i believe the reason the brake and accelerator are used by the same foot, is because the other is needed for the clutch.

lots of autos still use clutches, until theyre extinct it will probly stay the way it is.