View Full Version : new game like silent hunter 3 but with battle ships

12-21-2007, 08:16 AM
It would be very cool if ubi made a battle ship simulator because I am into battle ships in a very big way.

12-21-2007, 08:16 AM
It would be very cool if ubi made a battle ship simulator because I am into battle ships in a very big way.

12-21-2007, 09:41 AM
I have one thing to say to you.

Great Naval Battles.

Just about the nearest you will get! lol

I wonder what battles you could get if the European Navies completed all teh ships they started before war broke out?

RN: Lion Class
KM: H Class

Ohh that enough would be a good battle!

I bagise the H Class.

humm Really got to stary my R/C model of that....
My club reckons (Historically speaking) if I built a scale model (1:96) no other ship in the club would beat it. They would have to build 2x Lions to win! hehe http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

12-21-2007, 03:15 PM
The pacific version of this would be of/on/par course a clash between the Yamato, Musashi and the Missouri-class battleships.

12-21-2007, 03:25 PM
I only see one problem with such game. For instance, you have an engagement between Hood and Bismarck, or Bismarck and Rodney. One of them gets sunk. That's it!

I mean, there's lots of u-boats and merchants. But only one one-of-a-kind ships like Bismarck (Not counting Tirpitz, it didnt go to serious battles), or only two ships like Nelson and Rodney. So that makes a very limited number of missions...

Unless they magically get salvaged like that Nelson in Loch Ewe in SH3 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

12-21-2007, 03:29 PM
Karl, could you tell us little more about the Lion and H Classes? Did you mean something that was designed during the war but not completed? There was a Lion Class (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lion_class_battleship) of BB under construction before the war but never completed - mainly because the RN wanted escorts more urgently and, by the time they were able to continue, Britain was broke.
Then there was the "Vanguard", laid down in 1941 - 48,500 tons, with 8 x 15" guns and lots of AA.

12-22-2007, 03:23 AM
Sure can do Geoffwessex

The Lions are those BBs that were laid down before war began but axed shortly after war started.
9x 16" guns in 3x triple turrets. Slightly larger & up-gunned versions of the King George Vs

The H Class was in essence an up-gunned Bismarck.
She had the same basic layout but with twin funnels & the float planes moved to behing "Dorea" turret for launching on the quarterdeck. They were also armed with 8x 16" guns in 4x dual turrets.


H Class:

12-25-2007, 09:45 AM
H-39 was laid done in 1939.
H was the next ship letter; F being Bismarck and G being Tirpitz and 39 was the design year.
J was also begun put barely before stopped.
The H-39 was actually much different from the Bismarck although in some ways one might consider H an enlarged version as H was built on similar principles. The H had diesel propulsion which would have given them double the range of Bismarck from 8K to 16K nautical miles a very big deal.
The 16 inch guns were a disguise as they were over sized and it was intended to replace the liners with 420MM from the 406MM which mean they would have had 16.65 inch guns.
Seven of these guns were completed after the ships were canceled 4 installed in Norway eventually sold as scrap and three on the Channel known as the Lindenmann battery after Bismarck's captain.
These guns were excellent weapons and the only naval guns completed that were comparable to the Iowa class 16 inch. (Yamato's 18.1 inch were mediocre in design making them roughly equal to the US 16/55)
The H was intended to be resumed after the war expected to end in 1940 so the battleship design teams updated the plans.
H-41 was the last actual design intended to be built.
After that the personnel were transfered to other duties mostly new U-Boat design.
A small group then did research on the effects of newer weapons and what it would take to build ships to survive them.
This resulted in further "H" types that eventually led to the H-44 at 120,000 tons with 20 inch guns. This was never designed as a ship to build but only to calculate weapon advancement and to show how much the concept of a battleship had become unrealistic as the cost in money and manpower required to make it survivable did not create a usable weapon expense wise (note how the Japs barely used Yamato/Musashi because the operation cost was horrendous)
Some, however, ignore B&V on this and think these were the ultimate desire of the Kriegsmarine and all one has to do is realize the ship drew too much water to ever get near the German coast so I guess they were going to build large dry docks out in the North Sea to build these??? LOL.
Had the Germans not stopped construction nor altered the design of H-39 she would have been ready early 1944 a monument to wasted effort but certainly one striking ship we would all admire.

The Vanguard used the 4 old 15 inch WWI turrets in reserve. Although the guns were old she was an excellent ship and certainly the finest British battleship ever built.


12-26-2007, 09:26 AM
They really do need to make a new Battleship game though. I thought Battlestations midway might hold me off. But that game is not in depth enough.

12-26-2007, 02:01 PM
One that is compatible with this game, fully interactive etc.
Try taking out the Bismark, knowing a U-boat or two are lurking somewhere - just to keep you on your toes

12-26-2007, 02:49 PM
Interesting concept that could be applied to the SH4 game engine. It could be incorporated with the current game - call it the mother of all add ons http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

12-26-2007, 05:11 PM
Task Force 1942 by Microprose is pretty much the closest to Battleship simulation in my opinion, campaigns, war patrols, but you did have to help lead the fleet in your group, but you commanded the battleship or whichever ship you chose to command. (even had star shells in the pacific http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif )