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FatBoyHK
02-13-2006, 11:10 PM
I found that it is the ultmate solution to the oversensitive pitch control of a mustang, especially in high speed. Finally I can do those snapshots that make me notorious http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif in v304 days.... I wonder why it take me so long to discover that....

I wonder who is using filtering too..... may be everyone is using it except me???

FatBoyHK
02-13-2006, 11:10 PM
I found that it is the ultmate solution to the oversensitive pitch control of a mustang, especially in high speed. Finally I can do those snapshots that make me notorious http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif in v304 days.... I wonder why it take me so long to discover that....

I wonder who is using filtering too..... may be everyone is using it except me???

Targ
02-13-2006, 11:44 PM
Dang, I was hoping you would never find out..
Party is over, Oleg another patch to pork the p-51 please!
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msalama
02-14-2006, 12:29 AM
Well strangely enough I _was_ using it until yesterday and thought all's well and good... but decided to experiment a bit yesterday evening, now that I have a brand new OLD joystick gotten from a squadmate... and holeee cr4p!!! Eliminating filtering made things some 10 x more accurate and refined to me -> I'm able to deflection shoot with some confidence again now!

So U see, my experiences are just the opposite of yours... but hey, whatever works http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

FatBoyHK
02-14-2006, 12:56 AM
what is your usual ride msalama? I don't think I need filtering if I flying a 109 or p38, their pitch axis are quite stable. But on a mustang, which is my usual ride, the elevator is soo girly sensitive that any sudden change in stick force result in a big jump in AOA, which make deflection shooting all but impossible.

and filtering can filter all those sudden stick force I would apply unintentionally in the heat of the dogfight http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

msalama
02-14-2006, 01:56 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">what is your usual ride msalama? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Still the humble Sturmovik http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif So yeah, in that sense my needs are day and night compared to yours... but I did test the change with many different AC, including the Mustang - and yes, things got VASTLY better all across the board for me!

But I still wouldn't make any generalizations about these things, on account of there being so many different controllers out there... so what works for me mightn't work for U, and for a good reason too http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

rnzoli
02-14-2006, 02:12 AM
I use filteing 30 (3 notches from left to right), but I don't like it, because it delays the reaction of the aircraft slightly, further adding to the rubber-band control effect, and makes *me* oscillate the aircraft due to that.

The filtering is good for achieveing joystick input smoothing, in between discreete values, and smoother transitions, but not good for compensating stick yanking on the long run, due to the extra rubber-band effect (which can turn into even harder yanking of the stick).

Edit: I will go back and experiment with lower filter setting (10), and try to trim the aircraft more frequently, so the changes in deflection shooting should be made close to the neutral center of the main stick. That should provide smooth control while aiming, but also rapid reaction.

tjaika1910
02-14-2006, 09:57 AM
I have used filtering last couple of years because of my crappy joystick. That and my custom settings makes it playable (and I would have to relearn using a good joystick)

I have never understood what new wobble problems came with 4.02. I was used to this anyway and learning to shoot with a wobbling joystick was a good school. When I enabled filtering my hitratio rose on some missions to 15-20% and against bombers 20-25% ++

(I use pedals for rudder though, wouldn't be without them)