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USARLoog
09-09-2007, 04:45 PM
I was watching the discovery channel and they had a documentary on Free-Masons. For some odd reason I started thinking about AC, 2 and 2 came together and I got this idea:

You know the conspiracy Jade Raymond said that was in AC and carries on to this day? What if the conspiracy in the game somehow involves Free-Masons? It could be possible since I believe Free-Masons existed back then (I'm pretty sure they did). I just want to hear all of your thoughts on this subject.

USARLoog
09-09-2007, 04:45 PM
I was watching the discovery channel and they had a documentary on Free-Masons. For some odd reason I started thinking about AC, 2 and 2 came together and I got this idea:

You know the conspiracy Jade Raymond said that was in AC and carries on to this day? What if the conspiracy in the game somehow involves Free-Masons? It could be possible since I believe Free-Masons existed back then (I'm pretty sure they did). I just want to hear all of your thoughts on this subject.

Skaevola
09-09-2007, 04:51 PM
I've been playing around with this idea from day one. It's certainly possible. The reason I originally thought of it was because, thus far, the Assassin's Creed logo has not been explained. It does appear to have some similarities to the Freemasons' symbol, like maybe a more tribal version. Who knows?

Photus
09-09-2007, 05:28 PM
Well, according to dictionary.com there is a connection.

freemason (frē'mā'sən) Pronunciation Key
n.
1. Freemason A member of the Free and Accepted Masons, an international fraternal and charitable organization with secret rites and signs.
2. A member of a guild of skilled itinerant masons during the Middle Ages.

SCARFACE_47
09-10-2007, 01:50 AM
oah not the free masons again
come on they are just a bunch of freaks without enough attention
like could somebody pls tell everybody that jack the ripper just killed some girls because they knew what the syphilis sissy boy of king boned the other night
ubisoft is a amazingly ceative studio they do not need cr@p like free masons

AldirTheKnight
09-10-2007, 01:58 AM
I agree, I think the conspiracy might be the descendants of the other hashashin trying to kill Altairs descendant or since he was the best of his time trying to make clones of him in a hitman rip-off

USARLoog
09-10-2007, 07:01 AM
Then who else? The Holy Catholic Church? Knights Templars? She said that it was a conspiracy that will shape the world and carry on to this day, we know the Free-Masons have some what of a same goal and they are still around so why can't it be them? I say it is them.

Just what I think http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif

GuStick93
09-10-2007, 07:48 AM
wow i think you might be right !
look at the freemason logo
http://www.masonichall.org.uk/Square%20and%20Compass.jpg
and the AC one
http://canalgame.com/data/docs/20060906021528/logoCG.jpg

tailstriker
09-10-2007, 08:41 AM
only thing similar really is the generic shape.
other then that, not too much else is really similar......and when you think about it how many different shapes are there to make a symbol / logo out of?

USARLoog
09-10-2007, 10:46 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GuStick93:
wow i think you might be right !
look at the freemason logo
http://www.masonichall.org.uk/Square%20and%20Compass.jpg
and the AC one
http://canalgame.com/data/docs/20060906021528/logoCG.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Compare the Free-Mason logo to the pyramid on the back of the United States 1 dollar bill, see any similarity? I do.

Also, Alair's name means bird or flying right? Look at the United States seal, made by the Free-Masons, it has a eagle on it, and look at Assassins Creed main character, his name means bird or flying. It may be a coincidence or not, but the Free-Masons were descended from Ancient Egypt and the Holy Catholic Church back then did not approve of ANY cult. Perhaps that was the real reason of the crusades, to get rid of the Free-Masons? (I personally doubt it, lets not go near that subject though about the crusades)

GuStick93
09-10-2007, 11:02 AM
what the pyramid with the eye ?
i guess u could see a bit of a similarity

SCARFACE_47
09-10-2007, 11:32 AM
there, i have your conspiracy right there
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons
imagine myself holding my middle finger UP
come on get serious, WE KNOW THERE IS A CONspiracy, like we all knew that in the recruit al pacino is the bad guy coz he has a goatte (evil people have evil beards, robert de niro in heat, hitler in world war II, some evil guy in a james bond movie for sure)
and just talking about some sort of theories just ruines the actual conspiracy in the game in my opinion

USARLoog
09-10-2007, 11:56 AM
No duh theres a conspiracy. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

I didn't get that 9/11 thing and where on earth did the evil guy with the goatee thing come from?

And yes it will ruin the actual conspiracy about the game but we don't know what that is yet so I think its safe to say that...

IT WAS THE FREE-MASONS! RRRUUUNNN!

Or I could be wrong http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Boromir323
09-10-2007, 11:58 AM
Scarface, do you try to make your posts completely uncomprehendable, or is it just an accident?

SCARFACE_47
09-10-2007, 12:10 PM
ah, didn´t think i was THAT misunderstood,ok in slow motion again:
so this link in my post to "the best page in the universe" should provide you with the fact that we will make up stupid conspiracy thories about asssassins creed, and the evil beard thing were just "proofs", proofs that immediately show us the conclusion of the conspiracy before we even know it
and my last sentence should actually be pretty ok

drfeelgood8849
09-10-2007, 01:02 PM
ummm, you guys do know that the free masons originated from the knights templar right?

samo3000
09-10-2007, 01:15 PM
wth is a free-mason??

drfeelgood8849
09-10-2007, 01:22 PM
look it up dude

Recon_Reap
09-10-2007, 01:32 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SCARFACE_47:
ubisoft is a amazingly ceative studio they do not need cr@p like free masons </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, terribly creative, where would we be without 300 sequels to Rainbow Six and Ghost Recon, not to mention the fact that the history within this game has not been "created", its been "modified".

Anyway, the freemasons could play a part but if anything i believe it will be one of the religious orders featured in the game, we have already seen both the knights templar and the hospitallers in the trailer and one of the sneak peek pictures in the dev diary looks very much like a teutonic knight, the way i see it is that they wouldnt go into so much trouble implementing these religious orders into the game if they are not to make a significant impact on the game and story.

USARLoog
09-10-2007, 01:37 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by drfeelgood8849:
ummm, you guys do know that the free masons originated from the knights templar right? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You are correct,but the Pope at the time was against any kind of cult activity, so why would their own knights start a cult?

Recon_Reap
09-10-2007, 01:45 PM
Brothers who have broken away from the templars and formed the freemasons? Not to mention the other number of irregular practices they had adopted since the Pope had given them pretty much free reign over how they acted.

drfeelgood8849
09-10-2007, 01:46 PM
technically their not a "cult" but a "secret organization" or a "guild" which in my mind are pretty much the same thing. but their whole idea was to keep some of the secrets of the knights templar hidden from all society including the pope. and if you want to know more about them i suggest joining them. my uncle is a free mason. he wont tell me much about it other than what ive said, but there ya go.

moqqy
09-10-2007, 01:51 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by drfeelgood8849:
technically their not a "cult" but a "secret organization" or a "guild" which in my mind are pretty much the same thing. but their whole idea was to keep some of the secrets of the knights templar hidden from all society including the pope. and if you want to know more about them i suggest joining them. my uncle is a free mason. he wont tell me much about it other than what ive said, but there ya go. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sorry, he isn't. He just thought it was a good story.

drfeelgood8849
09-10-2007, 01:54 PM
im not lying dude he's a member. he goes to the "lodge" meeitings every week. hes got a ring and everyhting. wow i sound really stupid i think ill talk to him more about it next time i see him.

moqqy
09-10-2007, 01:57 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by drfeelgood8849:
im not lying dude he's a member. he goes to the "lodge" meeitings every week. hes got a ring and everyhting. wow i sound really stupid i think ill talk to him more about it next time i see him. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

My friend, those rings are called "wedding rings". The "lodge" meeting is called "work".

Oh yes and my dad's dad's brother is a freemason guy dude too!

drfeelgood8849
09-10-2007, 01:58 PM
haha i mean the ring with the mason simbol on it. my history teacher is one too and hes got the same ring.

USARLoog
09-10-2007, 01:58 PM
There are many definitions of a cult and the Free-Masons fit under one of them so I consider them a cult. (not a religious one though)

So if the Knights Templar separated themselves from the Catholic Church then I think its safe to say that the Knights Templar have a role in the conspiracy in Assassins Creed if they the game devs, are not making up their own creative conspiracy.

moqqy
09-10-2007, 02:00 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by drfeelgood8849:
haha i mean the ring with the mason simbol on it. my history teacher is one too and hes got the same ring. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yes. A real secret cult when every other person is a member!

But back to reality. Your history teacher is married too. He got the "wedding ring".
The symbol is called "writing". I am sorry, but the Masons didn't invent writing, and alot of other people use it. It's time for you to grow out of this, but worry not, it won't hurt.

Recon_Reap
09-10-2007, 02:03 PM
Freemason symbols are found in a number of places.

Then again, i have a templar cross ring, does that make me a templar?

moqqy
09-10-2007, 02:05 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Recon_Reap:
Freemason symbols are found in a number of places.

Then again, i have a templar cross ring, does that make me a templar? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh for sure, but only if it's made of plastic.

Recon_Reap
09-10-2007, 02:06 PM
So im a templar of the Poor Lego Knights of Christ? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

drfeelgood8849
09-10-2007, 02:06 PM
moqqy why do you seem to be in a bad mood all the time?

moqqy
09-10-2007, 02:08 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by drfeelgood8849:
moqqy why do you seem to be in a bad mood all the time? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Maybe the problem is in your eyes! Wooh.

But, Recon, Congratulations. You are officially a templar.

USARLoog
09-10-2007, 02:11 PM
Back on topic siblings! NAOW!

RRRUUUNNN!

spazzoo1025
09-10-2007, 02:16 PM
lol i know it's off-topic, but my old SS teacher's husband was a member of the Freemasons, and she said at the meetings all they do is play cards and stuff. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

moqqy
09-10-2007, 02:20 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by spazzoo1025:
lol i know it's off-topic, but my old SS teacher's husband was a member of the Freemasons, and she said at the meetings all they do is play cards and stuff. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

And that, my friend, is called a casino.

USARLoog
09-10-2007, 02:27 PM
Did they do the limbo to?

spazzoo1025
09-10-2007, 02:36 PM
hey loog, u find a game on COD yet? lol

USARLoog
09-10-2007, 02:41 PM
check the dashboard and you shallz s33

AldirTheKnight
09-10-2007, 04:15 PM
I dunno if to hate them, cause the Freemasons ordered the slaughter of all native americans in uruguay, and succeeded

USARLoog
09-10-2007, 05:25 PM
Oh my...

Kaxen6
09-10-2007, 06:47 PM
I hope it's not Free Masons... they've been done to death with every Knights Templar conspiracy theory. *shakes fist at all the conspiracy thoery themed stories from Da Vinci Code and after* Contrary to lazily plotting world domination (I assume having some cult that worships me would be helpful to this cause) and occasional bouts of attempts to cast magic, I'm really not much of a conspiracy wondering person... &gt;_&gt; eh...

AldirTheKnight
09-11-2007, 03:24 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by USARLoog:
Oh my... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


what? you're racist?

USARLoog
09-11-2007, 03:04 PM
No I just didn't know that they did that.

AldirTheKnight
09-12-2007, 02:13 PM
ah ok sorry

USARLoog
09-12-2007, 04:01 PM
Nothing to be sorry about.

Tobinb
09-13-2007, 09:15 PM
Haha Guys that's an awesome conspiracy theory however there are flaws within it... I.E.
Free Masonry, wile being around for a long time was not always a social club like it is today. it wasn't until the 1700s... 1717 i think that the grand lodge of England was formed. Prior to that it was only operative masons, men who worked in stone and nothing more, no secret agenda or anything just secrets of building and architecture. hence the use of secret handshakes in order to better discover weather they were a member of their guild. Templers did not Form free masonry its believed they joined with them during the time they were sought after for signs of heresy and all that BS. I think the game is playing of the Hassassins(sp) witch is were the word assassin derives its name and there is a reason for that.

Hockey2de
09-13-2007, 09:24 PM
I think the conspiracy is the assassins will be sent to kill altair, because he knows something he shouldn't

Tobinb
09-13-2007, 09:27 PM
that would be so generic haha

gymnocalycium
09-14-2007, 10:58 AM
altair is the ancestor of hitler

AldirTheKnight
09-14-2007, 06:41 PM
no because he doesn't have teh moustache!

USARLoog
09-16-2007, 01:54 AM
Its the Free-Masons end of story. (tee hee HA!)

AldirTheKnight
09-16-2007, 04:47 AM
why would they be when the templars aren't important in the story and they were safe and sound and had the support of the church at that time?

moqqy
09-16-2007, 05:25 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by AldirTheKnight:
why would they be when the templars aren't important in the story and they were safe and sound and had the support of the church at that time? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Templars aren't important to the story? Ah! Why didn't you tell us that you had the script of AC's story!

quicksilver_502
09-16-2007, 06:07 AM
its possible but i don't think the free masons are part of every single conspiracy ever conceived by man or beast. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

dragfindel
09-16-2007, 06:22 AM
i think it is that the leader of the assassins is telling altair lies to kill ppl, to make the brotherhood have more power... power that we can see today. that's why the guy who'goes back to altairs brains want to see what happend/

AldirTheKnight
09-16-2007, 10:20 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by moqqy:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by AldirTheKnight:
why would they be when the templars aren't important in the story and they were safe and sound and had the support of the church at that time? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Templars aren't important to the story? Ah! Why didn't you tell us that you had the script of AC's story! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

because they're paying me not to tell

andy276
09-16-2007, 01:02 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by AldirTheKnight:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by moqqy:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by AldirTheKnight:
why would they be when the templars aren't important in the story and they were safe and sound and had the support of the church at that time? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Templars aren't important to the story? Ah! Why didn't you tell us that you had the script of AC's story! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

because they're paying me not to tell </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Who? The templars? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

AldirTheKnight
09-16-2007, 01:29 PM
ubi...and them

DARK_ASSASSIN07
09-18-2007, 10:25 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dragfindel:
i think it is that the leader of the assassins is telling altair lies to kill ppl, to make the brotherhood have more power... power that we can see today. that's why the guy who'goes back to altairs brains want to see what happend/ </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Alty doesn't exist u know and..........I don't know http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

sandwich88
09-22-2007, 11:52 AM
Hi everyone iam new to this forum, iam quite intrigued by the conspiracy idea and well i suspect the freemasons...anyhow. The bluish glyphs walls etc are called the "glitch" belive you know that also the idea of dna storing memories thats why they have the strange options.

Anyhow i will post the link
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/19176.html

In this trailer interesting fact are reaveled, that Kristen Bell slips that a matrix like company goes into peoples memories.

Another interesting thing is this vid
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/4289.html

At 1:01 you see a glimpse of a character that doesent look that arabic and infact have a resemblance to Altair, is it this persons memories we are viewing?

Also the song God knows your lonely souls by unkle hints at something "sci-fi" or atleast another time

LONELY SOUL" - UNKLE

God knows your lonely souls
God knows your lonely souls

I believe there's a time and a place
To let your mind drift and get out of this place
I believe there's a day and a place
That we will go to, and I know you'll wanna share

There's no secret to livin
Just keep on walkin
There's no secret to dyin
Just keep on flyin

I'm gonna die in a place that don't know my name
I'm gonna die in a place that don't hold my pain

etc etc

Just sharing my thoughts people

PacBoy_23
09-22-2007, 12:04 PM
interesting but i wont know what anything means til i play the game and figure it out

sandwich88
09-22-2007, 12:47 PM
Another interesting thing as i said earlier, Kristen Bell slipt the information but this quotation from IGN.TV is ntriguing
http://tv.ign.com/articles/750/750843p3.html

IGN TV: Well you have to learn to play that one, because you're controlling yourself in the game!
Bell: I know, exactly, yeah.

The company are looking through memories to find this elite assasins (Altairs) offspring?

IGN TV: You also have a videogame you worked on for next year, right?

Bell: Yeah, I actually have one coming out for Ubisoft. I don't know what the date is; sometime next year. It's called Assassin's Creed. You can check it out at assassinscreed.com. It's actually really interesting to me. It's sort of based on the research that's sort of happening now, about the fact that your genes might be able to hold memory. And you could argue semantics and say it's instinct, but how does a baby bird know to eat a worm, as opposed to a cockroach, if its parents don't show it? And it's about this science company trying to, Matrix-style, go into people's brains and find out an ancestor who used to be an assassin, and sort of locate who that person is. It's very, very cool, and I've seen all the graphics for it. We just recorded all the dialogue and did all the face scans and body scans, and I'm really excited about it.

IGN TV: So you're not just doing the voice, but you're actually going to be physically in the game?

Bell: Yeah. I think they'll probably have someone much more coordinated do any actions she has to do, but they did scan my face and body.

This quotation strengthen my thesis....

USARLoog
09-22-2007, 10:21 PM
Indeed...

hbchilln
09-25-2007, 07:08 PM
Freemasonry is not a 'cult'. There is a lot of speculation and misinformation on this, and I wouldn't believe everything you read on the web. Many of America's founders and Presidents were Freemasons including George Washington and Ben Franklin. Their origins do however involve the Knights Templar.

The Templars were a militaristic monastic order sworn to protect travelers to Jerusalem and vowed a life of poverty (although the organization itself was very wealthy). After King Philip of France borrowed huge amounts of money from them to wage his wars, he manipulated an accusation of heresy against the order (equivalent to a witch hunt), arrested most and forced confessions under "creative" torture, and executed them. This is now observed as Friday the 13th. The King now no longer had to repay them, as well as had all their wealth seized.

The few Templars that escaped (mostly to Ireland) began again in secrecy to escape persecution. Freemasons were also hunted down by Hitler during WW2, which was another period that secrecy became vital for the order. For these reasons, the role of secrecy is held as an important part of their history, which naturally also brings about suspicion and wild speculation by those who don't know any better.

USARLoog
09-25-2007, 08:06 PM
So I assume you agree that the conspiracy in the game that carries on to this day involves Free-Masons in the futuristic aspect of the game?

hbchilln
10-04-2007, 10:57 AM
Well, who knows about what conspiracies carry on from history... much less those noted in a video game. I've read all sorts of wild things ranging from believable to downright self-contradictory.

Care to describe in detail exactly what this conspiracy involves?

arcziangelo
10-06-2007, 04:17 AM
I wrote down the crazy idea of mine in the one thread else but here's the better place to paste I see: the health bar, highlighting the others and some 2D chemical graphics behind the scenes also the potential and skills of Altair (e.g. fighting skills not used in such way in that time - "he fights like no man") and also his own type of conscience and spirituality reminds me of Blade Runner and androids with human feelings..

the main logo reminds of course the tool used by the free-masons in their logotype and it was used a.o. in means of the heading the skill perfection (from novice to master).. but of course I agree with everybody the AC logo is just the short form for (A)ssassins shown as the stylish symbol

TheRipper12
10-06-2007, 08:37 AM
its a possibility...but....omg wait what is that

its the letter Q! Q is the 16th letter of the alphabet!

there are 16 letters in tomato soup plz thx

Tomato soup is red!
blood is red!
Blood comes from all creatures!
Creatures existed from the begining of time!
Time comes from clocks!
Clocks cost money
MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL!
OMFGFGFGFGF ITS GOTTA BE TRUE!!!


Coincidence does not mean anything. I say we wait and see.

USARLoog
10-07-2007, 02:37 AM
From what I can tell it seems the conspiracy in the game definitely involves Templars, so what else can we gather from that?

arcziangelo
10-07-2007, 06:22 AM
nice, very n.i.c.e. tomato soup!! that's the answer!! we've got the winner!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

but fellows.. make me sure that I understand one thing wrongly: sitting and waiting is not good for threads and especially for the "conspiracy" theme, and one thing amongst few that really "moves" games communities is "hunting the sensation" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Coincidence at our stage where we're no devs means only "coincidence"..

Back to the "Freemasons" idea http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif do you know that in their logo the Square and Compasses mean also two and only two devices which are really needed to reach the great treasure? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif What if the Altair is their "construct", the "angel" given by the first master to be the "conscience" and "purificator" of the cult..? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

USARLoog
10-08-2007, 02:57 PM
I think your on to something

Gravity1337
10-08-2007, 03:13 PM
I may have an idea.............

Jade said this EXACTLY: "They have a conspiracy thing going on.... that is/can be IMPLEMENTED to today's time..."

Implement: "A tool or instrument for working with."

Now ~~~~~~~~~~~SPOILER POSSIBLY~~~~~~~~~~~~



In the comic, it gives you a name, and what seems to be the modern version of Altair, or his descendent, or the person they are getting the genetic memory from to use (i.e. the simulation type thing where we get to play with Altair)

Now, you may ask, what does that have to do with anything.... The modern version of Altair (that's what I call the kid in the hooded sweatshirt) asks "why did they kidnap me?" etc...

So maybe, this facility that is running the genetic memory on the modern version of Altair, plans to use his genetic memory to see what Altair did in his past life; Making this team using the genetic memory not so "good" at all, leaning towards "evil".

NOW: The fact that Altair was successful to STOP the conspiracy prevents them from ever knowing what the conspiracy is. So maybe this facility/team is trying to go in this kid's memory, find what Altair did, and see what these 9 key guys that Altair needs to assassinate were up to, so they could use their idea to implement in modern day!

And possibly, you get to play the modern kid with the sweatshirt at the end of the game to try to stop them, once they get the information. And, as you play through the story, not only does Altair find out what the mystery is, but so does the guy on the other side, the kid in the sweatshirt, using the genetic memory.


WOAH, lol

Faylinks
10-08-2007, 07:29 PM
Uh, about people correcting my "facts" about mosonic history.. The free masosn, as you stated, are a "secret scociety" and as for DEFINANT facts, there are not many. there are diffrent views, points and theorys.. and yours may differ from some people. But i have many reasons to belive otherwise.

"..there are some SERIOUS inaccuracies here..."

Faylinks
10-08-2007, 07:32 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by USARLoog:
From what I can tell it seems the conspiracy in the game definitely involves Templars, so what else can we gather from that? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
well from what i know to be true, freemasons are the desendance from Templar Knights, now, no one knows exactly for sure becouse i bet the templar knights would want to keep it a secret where they are fleeing 2.

Faylinks
10-08-2007, 07:39 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by USARLoog:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GuStick93:
wow i think you might be right !
look at the freemason logo
http://www.masonichall.org.uk/Square%20and%20Compass.jpg
and the AC one
http://canalgame.com/data/docs/20060906021528/logoCG.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Compare the Free-Mason logo to the pyramid on the back of the United States 1 dollar bill, see any similarity? I do.

Also, Alair's name means bird or flying right? Look at the United States seal, made by the Free-Masons, it has a eagle on it, and look at Assassins Creed main character, his name means bird or flying. It may be a coincidence or not, but the Free-Masons were descended from Ancient Egypt and the Holy Catholic Church back then did not approve of ANY cult. Perhaps that was the real reason of the crusades, to get rid of the Free-Masons? (I personally doubt it, lets not go near that subject though about the crusades) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

from what i know to be true, Gorge Washington, wanted a volture or another bird that meant somthing to the freemasons, but was denied by another non freemosoic party and put a eagle signifying freedom from europe or somthing on the lines of that.


Also, what i know to be ture, is that freemasons are the decendence of Knights Templar, and what is fact, is that in AC you kill Knights Templar, and the next 2 games will probably be in the future or present time, and also it will have somthing to do with memory in the DNA, and freemasons are here in the present time, or neer future.

DemonikCrow666
10-08-2007, 09:00 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by USARLoog:
I was watching the discovery channel and they had a documentary on Free-Masons. For some odd reason I started thinking about AC, 2 and 2 came together and I got this idea:

You know the conspiracy Jade Raymond said that was in AC and carries on to this day? What if the conspiracy in the game somehow involves Free-Masons? It could be possible since I believe Free-Masons existed back then (I'm pretty sure they did). I just want to hear all of your thoughts on this subject. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Some have speculated that Free-Masons use to be called The Templar Knights. The Templar Knights in the game are people scattered around that you must kill if you so choose..you know...for the hell of it...

USARLoog
10-10-2007, 03:25 PM
I think its a definite fact that Free-Masons have roots that come from the Templars. Also notice in that Assassin's Creed comic book, some of the guys that were chasing after that person were dressed like they were in a government agency.

Gravity1337
10-10-2007, 03:32 PM
Do you really think that the game is going to be about Free Masons, lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

The developers stated, very firmly, they don't want to make a political statement, or some other cr.ap; they want to make a good game.

So, as hundreds of thousands of people, pick up the controller, start to play the game for the first time, ecstatic about how fun the game is going to be, and find out that the game is about some stupid Free Masons that maybe don't exist.... well, lets leave the rest to imagination shall we.

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USARLoog
10-10-2007, 05:56 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Gravity1337:
Do you really think that the game is going to be about Free Masons, lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

The developers stated, very firmly, they don't want to make a political statement, or some other cr.ap; they want to make a good game.

So, as hundreds of thousands of people, pick up the controller, start to play the game for the first time, ecstatic about how fun the game is going to be, and find out that the game is about some stupid Free Masons that maybe don't exist.... well, lets leave the rest to imagination shall we.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/typing.gif .... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif ....... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

How are Free-Masons political? Sure most of their members have top spots in the political world but I doubt the club itself takes part in political happenings. And are you implying that Free-Masons don't exist? If you are then your dead wrong, they are as real as you and me.

Gravity1337
10-10-2007, 05:59 PM
Are you fammilar with the word: "MAYBE"?

They might be real, or might not. And if you say that The little "clubs" of Free Masonaries don't take part of the game, then you just proved your own point wrong.

What kind of game would this be if it was going to be about little CLUBS lol.

And, I believe they are political, they have political ties in mostly everything, some of which might not be true.

So, Free Mason idea, COULD be possible, but I SERIOUSLY doubt it.

Marrick098
10-10-2007, 07:28 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Gravity1337:
Are you fammilar with the word: "MAYBE"?

They might be real, or might not. And if you say that The little "clubs" of Free Masonaries don't take part of the game, then you just proved your own point wrong.

What kind of game would this be if it was going to be about little CLUBS lol.

And, I believe they are political, they have political ties in mostly everything, some of which might not be true.

So, Free Mason idea, COULD be possible, but I SERIOUSLY doubt it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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Gravity1337
10-10-2007, 07:33 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Marrick098:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Gravity1337:
Are you fammilar with the word: "MAYBE"?

They might be real, or might not. And if you say that The little "clubs" of Free Masonaries don't take part of the game, then you just proved your own point wrong.

What kind of game would this be if it was going to be about little CLUBS lol.

And, I believe they are political, they have political ties in mostly everything, some of which might not be true.

So, Free Mason idea, COULD be possible, but I SERIOUSLY doubt it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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Thats it guys, I know what Assassins creed is all about, basically, you're an assassins in the third crusade, and you need to assassinate these 9 key guys, and as you progress through the story, you find out that the crusade is just a cover up for something much bigger.



YEP THATS IT, thats all Jade Raymond ever says, shes like a robot sent to go to interviews, "insert text here" blah blah blah, same thing all the time, nothing new
blah blah blah, blah blah blah, blah blah blah, blah blah blah. BLAH IM PRETTY


BLAH BLAH BLAH LOOOK IT ME IM JADE RAYMOND, I HAVE PRETTY BOOBS, and i dont play video games. BLAH BLAH BLAH



o dear, im slowly losing my sanity.

Marrick098
10-10-2007, 07:52 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Gravity1337:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Marrick098:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Gravity1337:
Are you fammilar with the word: "MAYBE"?

They might be real, or might not. And if you say that The little "clubs" of Free Masonaries don't take part of the game, then you just proved your own point wrong.

What kind of game would this be if it was going to be about little CLUBS lol.

And, I believe they are political, they have political ties in mostly everything, some of which might not be true.

So, Free Mason idea, COULD be possible, but I SERIOUSLY doubt it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif


Thats it guys, I know what Assassins creed is all about, basically, you're an assassins in the third crusade, and you need to assassinate these 9 key guys, and as you progress through the story, you find out that the crusade is just a cover up for something much bigger.



YEP THATS IT, thats all Jade Raymond ever says, shes like a robot sent to go to interviews, "insert text here" blah blah blah, same thing all the time, nothing new
blah blah blah, blah blah blah, blah blah blah, blah blah blah. BLAH IM PRETTY


BLAH BLAH BLAH LOOOK IT ME IM JADE RAYMOND, I HAVE PRETTY BOOBS, and i dont play video games. BLAH BLAH BLAH



o dear, im slowly losing my sanity. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

She is a gamer and you are insane, everyone stop and laugh at the insane guy http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

USARLoog
10-10-2007, 07:53 PM
You need to mature up a bit.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">And if you say that The little "clubs" of Free Masonaries don't take part of the game, then you just proved your own point wrong. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I admit that I have said they might be in the game, but I never said they are in the game or aren't. Its quite obvious now thats impossible they are going to be in the Crusade era of the game but possibly in the futuristic era of the game.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Thats it guys, I know what Assassins creed is all about, basically, you're an assassins in the third crusade, and you need to assassinate these 9 key guys, and as you progress through the story, you find out that the crusade is just a cover up for something much bigger. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No duh. Thats all she is going to say because she does not want to spoil the story for us.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">YEP THATS IT, thats all Jade Raymond ever says, shes like a robot sent to go to interviews, "insert text here" blah blah blah, same thing all the time, nothing new
blah blah blah, blah blah blah, blah blah blah, blah blah blah. BLAH IM PRETTY


BLAH BLAH BLAH LOOOK IT ME IM JADE RAYMOND, I HAVE PRETTY BOOBS, and i dont play video games. BLAH BLAH BLAH </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No offense but that was just plain out moronic and unnecessary.

Marrick098
10-10-2007, 07:55 PM
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Gravity1337
10-10-2007, 08:41 PM
Not if your drunk (well I'm not any more). In fact, your the one thats insane, you say "im with stupid" to everyone.

EDIT: SOMEONE ERASED MY "NEW INFORMATION LEAKED" thread. darn!!!

arcziangelo
10-11-2007, 04:40 AM
ok, let the free masons be in it or not, but I'm interested more in some good argument with another http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif crazy idea of mine:

that the wrist-blade is the memory sucker, U know smth like Robocop armblade - the data connector

when Altair (in my eyes it's an android= blade runner, "angel" designed by some Constructors) is hitting his important target by the wrist-blade he "connect" to the spinal cord and can steal some "data" (memories, facts, beliefes etc)

I'll be not surprised if I'll see on the another movie from the AC franchise, under the mechanism of wrist-blade (gear) some electronic parts and when the blade will reach the entrails the blood cells holding memories will be sucked by blade http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

TheDazzler
10-11-2007, 08:35 AM
Hmmm... I'm not sure what kind of sect, cult or organisation will follow from the main plot of AC. However, I still beleive that the plot involves the fact that Altar will, during the course of the game, find out that he is being used by his superior(s). Consider:
-that he, as a master assassin (or you the player), messes up in the beginning. (either because you just have to mess up OR because you're being set up)
-losing his rank makes Altar eager to regain his lost status: he will follow the orders of his superior to kill what he thinks are just abusers of the crusade situation
-whilst killing, Altar uncovers that there is a connection between his targets, and that something more is going on here.
-Eventually (and this is what I think might happen) Altar finds out that he has been duped from the start, and that the leader of the HAshashin has an agenda of his own...
This agenda his implications for the future as well, and maybe we'll see more of Desmond Miles (Altar's descendant) as he finds out the modern day implications in the following games!

Anyway, regardless of our expectations... WE'll just HAVE to play the game!

maulsl
10-11-2007, 01:55 PM
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Has anyone noticed the name of the building where Desmond is at?

Its called "Abstergo Industries"

Abstergo in latin meaning "To wipe away, to clean away".


I think that may give some indication of this company's intentions with Desmond,his genetic ancestry with this Altair character, and possibly the world in general?

If Altair was Desmond's ancestor, who discovered this conspiracy its apparent why these "men with power" are interested in Desmond. Hence why he's a "prisoner" he knows to much, but maybe isn't exactly sure of what it is "he knows" which these men will only make it obvious for him as the game plays on.

Sort of how the Agents in the Matrix were interested in Neo, although he wasn't sure why these people were after him, but through using, and utilizing the Matrix he became aware of himself and his true purpose to bring down the system.

Which is where the genetic memory machine could come into play. We can see in the comic that Desmond places himself on the Memory Bed Matrix and its when he gets off it that he makes the comment that he himself is "An Assassin" which is possibly something he figures out while using this genetic memory machine, which awakens him to his true purpose; to bring the system down. To assassinate those who wish to "wipe away, clean away, destroy" the world.

Also, the name "Desmond" means "man of the world, society" I think it just might coincide with my theory here.

The funny thing is, is utilizing this kind of technology Desmond could have been on that machine for a few minutes linear time, but to him his experience in the machine will be our entire adventure through the Third Crusade, Which could have been years of Altair's time.

It could be possible since Altair's life-time he found ways to make sure all ancestry after himself would become aware of this conspiracy, and poor Desmond just happens to be the one to have to take it down because its his purpose. or something like that?

If the conspiracy transpired back in 1191 with the people that were basically controlling the world, as it happens in reality today, its apparent why we have a modern day setting.

It's also interesting that they chose "2012" as the date.

I could be completely wrong, but I can say that this will be a very, very interesting game.

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arcziangelo
10-12-2007, 05:05 AM
TheDazzler & maulsl ---&gt; I think now we're closer to the core of whole secret. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif Thank you both for engaging the facts. Do you remember guys movie "13th floor" or read the "Simulacron 3" by Daniel Galouye or see the "Rain" short animated movie made by Tomasz Baginski (both films was based upon the idea from the book, see on YouTube especially "Rain" made by one man because it's short)..? If yes or not the whole thing is about the paralel worlds.

Now my next crazy idea is: some firm called "Abstergo Indstr" design the paralel worlds where the Desmond is one of the many players taking control over the characters, Desmond is playing character Altair as the assassin is designed upon his look, Desmond was plugged into the 1191 world before the beginning of the AC story. Despite playing him Altair was suspecting smth because every man in his world has got also designed IQ, feelings and "spirit". Maybe Altair screw with some mission because wasn't sure about idea also maybe Desmond and some players from Desmond's world playing other important persons screwed and now Desmond has to play him to change the history, "the game". But Desmond not know that he is also in the paralel world, not the highest world in the pyramid and at the end of whole story it reveals that we (players) are playing everyone.

The coincidence no. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif with the name: Abstergo: it means also "to eraze" --&gt; do you remember the song by Cardigans at the end of that "13th Floor" movie: "Erase and rewind"..?
The coincidence no. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif in the words of Patrice Desilets: he said that he want make the game that gamer plays the role of the main actor in the game..?
The coincidence no. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif also in the words of Patrice Desilets: he wants to make a game in times of Christ (propably about theory of the enother "god" plugged into our world from higher reality).

And it all looks like t.h.e. v.e.r.y. b.i.g. f.u.n. about what Jade Raymond told, just the fun! And every conspiracy lies upon the fun!

P.s. I didn't see any vid about that "Abstergo Indstr" and Desmond and I don't know really what you're talking guys about but I was feeling bad that I couldn,t write some new ideas... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif Anyway - where is the link to your Desmond-theory..?

maulsl
10-12-2007, 12:25 PM
Ya ive seen 13th floor dont remember the song though. Interesting theory though, that would be quite the surprise wouldn't it?

The times of Christ was another idea for a game. I don't think it had/has anything to do with Assassins Creed.

The abstergo industries is in the comic, which is where most of my theory is derived from.
http://s166.photobucket.com/albums/u86/sircuddlesGHII/Assassins%20Creed/

Start from the last image to the first one. Cheers mate!

Altair666123
10-12-2007, 02:34 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Recon_Reap:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SCARFACE_47:
ubisoft is a amazingly ceative studio they do not need cr@p like free masons </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, terribly creative, where would we be without 300 sequels to Rainbow Six and Ghost Recon, not to mention the fact that the history within this game has not been "created", its been "modified".

Anyway, the freemasons could play a part but if anything i believe it will be one of the religious orders featured in the game, we have already seen both the knights templar and the hospitallers in the trailer and one of the sneak peek pictures in the dev diary looks very much like a teutonic knight, the way i see it is that they wouldnt go into so much trouble implementing these religious orders into the game if they are not to make a significant impact on the game and story. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


first off this is ubisoft MONTREAl and second of they didnt make up history becau
se they wanted it to be historic

USARLoog
10-12-2007, 11:11 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Altair666123:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Recon_Reap:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SCARFACE_47:
ubisoft is a amazingly ceative studio they do not need cr@p like free masons </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, terribly creative, where would we be without 300 sequels to Rainbow Six and Ghost Recon, not to mention the fact that the history within this game has not been "created", its been "modified".

Anyway, the freemasons could play a part but if anything i believe it will be one of the religious orders featured in the game, we have already seen both the knights templar and the hospitallers in the trailer and one of the sneak peek pictures in the dev diary looks very much like a teutonic knight, the way i see it is that they wouldnt go into so much trouble implementing these religious orders into the game if they are not to make a significant impact on the game and story. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


first off this is ubisoft MONTREAl and second of they didnt make up history becau
se they wanted it to be historic </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What?

MrMoo333
10-12-2007, 11:15 PM
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This is a funny topic thread...

But i have to hope that USARLoog is right, that would be awesome if the other two in the series have to tie in with AMERICAN history, or something lke that. And hopefully this one does two. It would be pretty awesome!

Hassan-Sabbah
10-12-2007, 11:29 PM
The Masons claim a quasi-connection to the Templars. They even have a degree named after them (Knight of the Temple), but any connection between the Templars and the Masons, is at best, VERY speculative (check out this topic: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/5...51068595#4151068595) (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/5531045595?r=4151068595#4151068595)).

Though...the two are so intertwined in most peoples minds, the developers may just go that route.

It seems as plausable as any other theory...

hbchilln
10-15-2007, 01:24 PM
Thanks for clearing up a lot of these inaccuracies Hassan-Sabbah. Some of the things u read on the web are quiet laughable.

And yes, I too was an initiate of a Masonic Lodge.

USARLoog
10-17-2007, 04:04 PM
Really? Can you explain the initiation process then?

Hassan-Sabbah
10-17-2007, 04:54 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by USARLoog:
Really? Can you explain the initiation process then? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Without getting into too much detail (I did take oaths after all), the initial degrees are symbolic of the initiates death and rebirth (after that , I do not know on personal experience, I only went as far as Accepted Apprentice). This is re-created by certain ritual elements (I guess you could call it "role-play"), being blindfolded, bound, moving around the temple in specific directions, saying and listening to speeches of a symbolic nature...

This information is all out there in one form or another. I would rather not type of it as I have taken oaths not to discuss it. NOT that I believe there will be vengence or "I will have my throat cut and my tongue removed" or anything like that. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif It is just a matter of having given my Word...

But, you can find pretty acurate descriptions of the initiation process in various books and web-sites.

@hbchilln
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fGuppy88
10-18-2007, 09:39 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by USARLoog:
Did they do the limbo to? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

ROFL!

fGuppy88
10-18-2007, 10:11 PM
we need to add 2 +2 togehter.

The whole matrix things by reading peoples mind and the trilogy in one setting they would go back in the future.

Hmm, sounds like someone is intrested in a Assassin?


Now its a good guess that someone is reading somebodies dna because they want to find some conspiracy out but its a trilogy so its going to be a lot like half-life; with he gman and all.

Sounds like someone or people are having some trouble in the future and need somoeone to kill someone?

Or this assassin has some artifact or killed someone who has something that they need?

There is 1,000 possible solutions but the only way to find out is by playing the game.

The best one so far is the one about hitler. Some space aliens will fly down and kill all and altair will won and jade will talk with her blah blah blah im pretty look at my boobs lol.

This thread is the most funny thing ever.

Free masons playing cards and doing limbo. Thats somehow connected to everything as well. They wanted to find out how to be like altair to do limbo better HAHAHA. hhahahaha lol rofl. I guess they will be playing assassins creed too.

Dark-Mathias
10-19-2007, 10:22 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by maulsl:
Ya ive seen 13th floor dont remember the song though. Interesting theory though, that would be quite the surprise wouldn't it?

The times of Christ was another idea for a game. I don't think it had/has anything to do with Assassins Creed.

The abstergo industries is in the comic, which is where most of my theory is derived from.
http://s166.photobucket.com/albums/u86/sircuddlesGHII/Assassins%20Creed/

Start from the last image to the first one. Cheers mate! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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Damn it i couldnt resist reading it aaaaaaahhhhh ive been spoiled, **** http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif well im going to buy the game anyway, i bet its going to kick ***

USARLoog
10-20-2007, 07:35 PM
I lol'd

USARLoog
11-18-2007, 12:40 AM
So it seems my theory before the game came out is some what true, that there are Templars in the future part of the game and since the Knight Templar is an international philanthropic Masonic order affiliated with Freemasonry, I was correct...I guess, dunno.

Tru_Vampire0
01-02-2008, 12:28 PM
Everyone please read the Da Vinci Code.

the_assassin_07
01-02-2008, 12:36 PM
I don't want to though.

BTOG46
01-02-2008, 12:59 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tru_Vampire0:
Everyone please read the Da Vinci Code. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I've read it, all he does is his usual formulaic conspiricy/action style of novel.
In The Da Vinci Code, he uses ideas put forth years earlier in the book, The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail (retitled Holy Blood, Holy Grail in the United States), throws in a few conspiricy theories and such, stirs them all around and bingo, we have a book that some people seem to regard as some kind of revelation. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

the_assassin_07
01-02-2008, 01:15 PM
BTOG join me in the bring up whatever you like thread! PLEASE!