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Shift_E
06-14-2004, 01:05 AM
I saw this last weekend in Seattle and thought you might enjoy these shots.

Shift_E
http://mysite.verizon.net/res19wz2/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/.pond/fw190d9sd.jpg.w300h225.jpg

http://mysite.verizon.net/res19wz2/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/.pond/fw190d9ft.jpg.w300h225.jpg

This aircraft (Work Nr.836017) was delivered to Jagdgeschwader 26 in March 1945, Two months before VE Day. It was one of the five ‚"long-nose 190s‚"Ě taken to the US for evaluation; and appeared that it had not been extensively flown. Years later, restorers discovered that this aircraft‚'s wings had been exchanged with the wings of another aircraft.

The plane was subsequently donated to Georgia Tech, and after years of neglect it was acquired by an individual in California. Doug Champlin learned of the derelict fighter, purchased it in 1972, and shipped it to Germany. There, Art Williams of Grunzburg began a four-year restoration project with the assistance of Professor Kurt Tank. Many missing parts had to be found or fabricated before the project was largely completed in 1976 and returned to the U.S. As the only privately owned 190D in the world, the ‚"Dora‚"Ě was the crown jewel of Doug Champlin‚'s museum in Mesa, Arizona.

In 2001, a complete rebuild was begun by GossHawk Aviation, directed by Dave Gross in Mesa. The result is perhaps the most authentic Luftwaffe aircraft in North America Ė not only complete, but airworthy as well.

I should have posted this as well. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://mysite.verizon.net/res19wz2/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/.pond/p1010134.jpg.w300h225.jpg

[This message was edited by Shift_E on Mon June 14 2004 at 08:37 AM.]

Shift_E
06-14-2004, 01:05 AM
I saw this last weekend in Seattle and thought you might enjoy these shots.

Shift_E
http://mysite.verizon.net/res19wz2/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/.pond/fw190d9sd.jpg.w300h225.jpg

http://mysite.verizon.net/res19wz2/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/.pond/fw190d9ft.jpg.w300h225.jpg

This aircraft (Work Nr.836017) was delivered to Jagdgeschwader 26 in March 1945, Two months before VE Day. It was one of the five ‚"long-nose 190s‚"Ě taken to the US for evaluation; and appeared that it had not been extensively flown. Years later, restorers discovered that this aircraft‚'s wings had been exchanged with the wings of another aircraft.

The plane was subsequently donated to Georgia Tech, and after years of neglect it was acquired by an individual in California. Doug Champlin learned of the derelict fighter, purchased it in 1972, and shipped it to Germany. There, Art Williams of Grunzburg began a four-year restoration project with the assistance of Professor Kurt Tank. Many missing parts had to be found or fabricated before the project was largely completed in 1976 and returned to the U.S. As the only privately owned 190D in the world, the ‚"Dora‚"Ě was the crown jewel of Doug Champlin‚'s museum in Mesa, Arizona.

In 2001, a complete rebuild was begun by GossHawk Aviation, directed by Dave Gross in Mesa. The result is perhaps the most authentic Luftwaffe aircraft in North America Ė not only complete, but airworthy as well.

I should have posted this as well. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://mysite.verizon.net/res19wz2/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/.pond/p1010134.jpg.w300h225.jpg

[This message was edited by Shift_E on Mon June 14 2004 at 08:37 AM.]

Extreme_One
06-14-2004, 01:33 AM
Nice pics. Cheers!

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MustangWZI
06-14-2004, 01:46 AM
Wow, do you mean she can fly? I wasn't aware there were any flyable examples of the 190.

BTW, is that a D-11. It looks like a D-11.

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PlaneEater
06-14-2004, 01:55 AM
It's a D-13. The plastic modeling community has been drooling over this beauty for years during the restoration.

I still think the D-9 is sexier, though. Something about the slight bulges for the nose guns sells the shape of the nose. Without them it seems too slender.

NegativeGee
06-14-2004, 02:06 AM
A beautiful restoration, thanks for the pics http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif

Don't think its a D-11- no outboard guns in the wings.

The supercharger blower looks to have a wider bore than most pics I have of the plane, anyone know why?

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Hunde_3.JG51
06-14-2004, 02:10 AM
Very nice, thanks for pics. I hope to see some pics like that of a FW-190A/F/G someday. Or better yet, to see one in person.

Thanks again.

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KGr.HH-Sunburst
06-14-2004, 02:38 AM
Oh my gawd thats just awesome http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif
as a complete "Dora" freak i would die to see one in real life

thank you so much for these wonderfull pics

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dadada1
06-14-2004, 03:25 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by NegativeGee:
A beautiful restoration, thanks for the pics http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif

Don't think its a D-11- no outboard guns in the wings.

The supercharger blower looks to have a wider bore than most pics I have of the plane, anyone know why?

"As weaponry, both were good, but in far different ways from each other. In a nutshell, I describe it this way: if the FW 190 was a sabre, the 109 was a florett, or foil, like that used in the precision art of fencing." - G√ľnther Rall

http://www.invoman.com/images/tali_with_hands.jpg

Look Noobie, we already told you, we don't have the Patch!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The D13(which this is)and D11 both had the Junkers Jumo 213F, presumably it needed more air than Jumo 213A in the D9. Its a very decent replica of the blower as the original scoop was hacked off by a drunk with an axe before the aircraft was restored. When first restored it wasn't in condition to fly, only run the engine at idle. Now it looks great in it's new paint. Do you have any more of these Shift_E ? Oh and thanks.

Monson74
06-14-2004, 03:28 AM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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dadada1
06-14-2004, 03:51 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Monson74:
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Monson


"So when Diogenes perceived that he was greatly excited and quite keyed up in mind with expectancy, he toyed with him and pulled him about in the hope that somehow he might be moved from his pride and thirst for glory and be able to sober up a little. For he noticed that at one time he was delighted, and at another grieved at the same thing, and that his soul was as unsettled as the weather at the solstices when both rain and sunshine come from the very same source."

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VOL_Hans
06-14-2004, 07:22 AM
ooo, NICE!

And I agree, the classic Dora look with the slight bulges like we see on the D-9's really does make the nose look much better.

Not that the D-13 nose looks odd, it still looks great, it just dosent look classic.

Like the Bf-109F/G2 nose compared to the others. The streamlined smoothe F/G2 nose looks good, the bulges on the G-6/G-6Late and G-14 give it that classic bomber-killer look, and the streamlined bulges on G-6/AS and the like make it look like a nice agressive fighter-killer.

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MustangWZI
06-14-2004, 07:48 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PlaneEater:
It's a D-13. The plastic modeling community has been drooling over this beauty for years during the restoration.

I still think the D-9 is sexier, though. Something about the slight bulges for the nose guns sells the shape of the nose. Without them it seems too slender.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wow, I never knew there was a D-13.
Agreed about the D-9. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/heart.gif

dadada1
06-14-2004, 08:42 AM
Disagree with you about the D9 you need your eyes tested. Once you get used to the lack of cowling MGs, its clear that the D 13 has a much cleaner and aesthetically more pleasing line. You need to see more of it to really appreciate it, these great photos don't tell the whole story. I have a Polish book with D9/ D13 drawings in it, there you can see what a beaut she really is, also look out for Gerry Crandells book "Yellow 10" published by Eagle Cals. This has some great colour drawings of this aircraft.

Shift_E
06-14-2004, 09:40 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by dadada1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by NegativeGee:
A beautiful restoration, thanks for the pics http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif

Don't think its a D-11- no outboard guns in the wings.

The supercharger blower looks to have a wider bore than most pics I have of the plane, anyone know why?

"As weaponry, both were good, but in far different ways from each other. In a nutshell, I describe it this way: if the FW 190 was a sabre, the 109 was a florett, or foil, like that used in the precision art of fencing." - G√ľnther Rall

http://www.invoman.com/images/tali_with_hands.jpg

Look Noobie, we already told you, we don't have the Patch!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The D13(which this is)and D11 both had the Junkers Jumo 213F, presumably it needed more air than Jumo 213A in the D9. Its a very decent replica of the blower as the original scoop was hacked off by a drunk with an axe before the aircraft was restored. When first restored it wasn't in condition to fly, only run the engine at idle. Now it looks great in it's new paint. Do you have any more of these Shift_E ? Oh and thanks.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, I do have more pictures of the Fw 190, but not the room to post them. Sorry.

Shift_E

dadada1
06-14-2004, 09:51 AM
Is there any way you could E-mail me a few of your other shots, I'm jeolous that you got so close to this bird.

Shift_E
06-14-2004, 10:15 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by dadada1:
Is there any way you could E-mail me a few of your other shots, I'm jeolous that you got so close to this bird.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sure, PT me with an address and send them off to you.

Shift_E

dadada1
06-14-2004, 11:14 AM
Please excuse my ingnorance but, how do i do that ?

Shift_E
06-14-2004, 11:39 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by dadada1:
Please excuse my ingnorance but, how do i do that ?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

No problem, go to "Private Topics" from My Space on the top of page. I sent you one.

Shift_E

jeroen_R90S
06-14-2004, 12:46 PM
190D-series have always looked like failed abortions to me compaired to the A/F/G.

They do score high on the sinister-appearance scale though!

Jeroen