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cawimmer430
02-19-2008, 01:13 PM
Last Sunday I was in Lochheim doing a small photoshoot with a car I was testdriving when I thought I'd check out the little cemetary to see if there are any soldiers from World War II there (most likely they're not buried there though). I found some. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

This town is pretty much dead. It basically consists of a small church surrounded by a bunch of farms and small houses. The population must be around 200 at the most. Looking at the derelict houses here you can easily get an idea what this place is like. The local bakery here for instance looks like it stopped selling bread in the 1950s!

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u267/cawimmer430a/Grab/Backery.jpg

Anyway, here are all the graves I found of Wehrmacht soldiers including a World War I casualty.



Obergefreiter Matthias Winkler, died in Mischkino, Russia on July 22, 1943 at 27 years of age.
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u267/cawimmer430a/Grab/Grab3.jpg
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u267/cawimmer430a/Grab/Grab31.jpg



This family had two sons who died during the war and they're both flanking the main slab.
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u267/cawimmer430a/Grab/Grab1.jpg

Gefreiter Josef Heimeldinger, farmer's son from Neufahrn (a town), died in the East on August 31, 1944 at age 20.http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u267/cawimmer430a/Grab/Grab11.jpg
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u267/cawimmer430a/Grab/Grab12.jpg

Obergefreiter Franz Heimeldinger, farmer's son from Neufahrn, died during heavy battles in the East on August 8, 1941 at age 27.
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u267/cawimmer430a/Grab/Grab13.jpg
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u267/cawimmer430a/Grab/Grab14.jpg



Obergefreiter Georg Hochfellner, died in Woronesch on February 16, 1943 at 31 years of age. I believe the woman on top and the man on the bottom where his parents.
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u267/cawimmer430a/Grab/Grab2.jpg
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u267/cawimmer430a/Grab/Grab21.jpg



The top guy died in World War I while one his of his relatives died during World War II. Both of them were named Anton Müller.
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u267/cawimmer430a/Grab/Grab4.jpg


Anton Müller, born in Lochheim on May 10, 1890, died on May 29, 1916.
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u267/cawimmer430a/Grab/Grab41.jpg

Anton Müller, born December 17, 1914, died July 24, 1944.
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u267/cawimmer430a/Grab/Grab42.jpg


I got the impression that all of them were "farmer's sons". Back then Lochheim was probably even more agricultural than it is today! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

cawimmer430
02-19-2008, 01:13 PM
Last Sunday I was in Lochheim doing a small photoshoot with a car I was testdriving when I thought I'd check out the little cemetary to see if there are any soldiers from World War II there (most likely they're not buried there though). I found some. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

This town is pretty much dead. It basically consists of a small church surrounded by a bunch of farms and small houses. The population must be around 200 at the most. Looking at the derelict houses here you can easily get an idea what this place is like. The local bakery here for instance looks like it stopped selling bread in the 1950s!

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u267/cawimmer430a/Grab/Backery.jpg

Anyway, here are all the graves I found of Wehrmacht soldiers including a World War I casualty.



Obergefreiter Matthias Winkler, died in Mischkino, Russia on July 22, 1943 at 27 years of age.
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u267/cawimmer430a/Grab/Grab3.jpg
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u267/cawimmer430a/Grab/Grab31.jpg



This family had two sons who died during the war and they're both flanking the main slab.
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u267/cawimmer430a/Grab/Grab1.jpg

Gefreiter Josef Heimeldinger, farmer's son from Neufahrn (a town), died in the East on August 31, 1944 at age 20.http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u267/cawimmer430a/Grab/Grab11.jpg
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u267/cawimmer430a/Grab/Grab12.jpg

Obergefreiter Franz Heimeldinger, farmer's son from Neufahrn, died during heavy battles in the East on August 8, 1941 at age 27.
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u267/cawimmer430a/Grab/Grab13.jpg
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u267/cawimmer430a/Grab/Grab14.jpg



Obergefreiter Georg Hochfellner, died in Woronesch on February 16, 1943 at 31 years of age. I believe the woman on top and the man on the bottom where his parents.
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u267/cawimmer430a/Grab/Grab2.jpg
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u267/cawimmer430a/Grab/Grab21.jpg



The top guy died in World War I while one his of his relatives died during World War II. Both of them were named Anton Müller.
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u267/cawimmer430a/Grab/Grab4.jpg


Anton Müller, born in Lochheim on May 10, 1890, died on May 29, 1916.
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u267/cawimmer430a/Grab/Grab41.jpg

Anton Müller, born December 17, 1914, died July 24, 1944.
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u267/cawimmer430a/Grab/Grab42.jpg


I got the impression that all of them were "farmer's sons". Back then Lochheim was probably even more agricultural than it is today! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

DIRTY-MAC
02-19-2008, 04:09 PM
Very nice pics, and may they all rest in peace.

dugong
02-19-2008, 04:50 PM
Thanks for sharing - that is very moving. It is good to see the burial sites are kept proper. That is the least to be done for those young men.

WTE_Pharoah
02-19-2008, 05:56 PM
yeah its one thing to know lots of germans and russians died fighting in the east in WW2, but its totally diff to actually see pics of the dead...kinda puts a 'face to the name' so to speak.

Well, history is history and we can't change it (thankfully). May they RIP.

cawimmer430
02-20-2008, 04:44 AM
I usually scout cemetaries for these kinds of things. So if I'm somewhere new I also check them out.

I found two war graves in two small towns: Zangberg and Mößling, both with a population of about 200-300 and with a long list of dead from 1870-1871, 1914-1918 and 1939-1945. Will visit again with my camera. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WTE_Pharoah:
yeah its one thing to know lots of germans and russians died fighting in the east in WW2, but its totally diff to actually see pics of the dead...kinda puts a 'face to the name' so to speak.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Agree 100%.

Blutarski2004
02-20-2008, 08:35 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by cawimmer430:
I usually scout cemetaries for these kinds of things. So if I'm somewhere new I also check them out.

I found two war graves in two small towns: Zangberg and Mößling, both with a population of about 200-300 and with a long list of dead from 1870-1871, 1914-1918 and 1939-1945. Will visit again with my camera. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WTE_Pharoah:
yeah its one thing to know lots of germans and russians died fighting in the east in WW2, but its totally diff to actually see pics of the dead...kinda puts a 'face to the name' so to speak.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Agree 100%. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


..... Visit the small graveyard of the ancient monastery on Fraueninsel in the Chiemsee. Alfred Jodl is buried there.

cawimmer430
02-20-2008, 09:09 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Blutarski2004:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by cawimmer430:
I usually scout cemetaries for these kinds of things. So if I'm somewhere new I also check them out.

I found two war graves in two small towns: Zangberg and Mößling, both with a population of about 200-300 and with a long list of dead from 1870-1871, 1914-1918 and 1939-1945. Will visit again with my camera. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WTE_Pharoah:
yeah its one thing to know lots of germans and russians died fighting in the east in WW2, but its totally diff to actually see pics of the dead...kinda puts a 'face to the name' so to speak.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Agree 100%. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


..... Visit the small graveyard of the ancient monastery on Fraueninsel in the Chiemsee. Alfred Jodl is buried there. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Already saw it. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

But I was only about 11 years old at the time and not into photography or history at all. That all came later...


On a side note, a close friend of my father, his wife is one of the daughters of the personal physician to Erwin Rommel!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Let me check with my mom what his name was. Maybe this stuff is even online! Her husband is Fritz Wieser of Brewery Wieser (http://www.brauerei-wieser.de/) in Wiesmühl.

Despite being in her late '60s, she's a damn fine looking woman! She and her sister were the town beauties according to my mom. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

TgD Thunderbolt56
02-20-2008, 11:37 AM
I don't mean to distract from the wonderful original post, but I'd like to know what kind of photgraphic equipment you used to take them.

TB

Blutarski2004
02-20-2008, 12:18 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by cawimmer430:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Blutarski2004:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by cawimmer430:
I usually scout cemetaries for these kinds of things. So if I'm somewhere new I also check them out.

I found two war graves in two small towns: Zangberg and Mößling, both with a population of about 200-300 and with a long list of dead from 1870-1871, 1914-1918 and 1939-1945. Will visit again with my camera. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WTE_Pharoah:
yeah its one thing to know lots of germans and russians died fighting in the east in WW2, but its totally diff to actually see pics of the dead...kinda puts a 'face to the name' so to speak.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Agree 100%. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


..... Visit the small graveyard of the ancient monastery on Fraueninsel in the Chiemsee. Alfred Jodl is buried there. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Already saw it. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

But I was only about 11 years old at the time and not into photography or history at all. That all came later...


On a side note, a close friend of my father, his wife is one of the daughters of the personal physician to Erwin Rommel!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Let me check with my mom what his name was. Maybe this stuff is even online! Her husband is Fritz Wieser of Brewery Wieser (http://www.brauerei-wieser.de/) in Wiesmühl.

Despite being in her late '60s, she's a damn fine looking woman! She and her sister were the town beauties according to my mom. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


..... A small world. Here's a story. I was on the phone chatting one day with an IT distributor in Chicago. I asked him his name. He say XXX Boelke. I said "are you related to the famous Oswald Boelke"? He said "Who is he"?. I said "a very famous German pilot from WW1". He said "hmmm, my aunt once told me there was some kind of pilot in our family way back then".

True story.

woofiedog
02-20-2008, 12:46 PM
Excellent photos... and I agree with WTE_Pharoah. It puts a face to the names that are usually only a list.

cawimmer430
02-21-2008, 11:23 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by TgD Thunderbolt56:
I don't mean to distract from the wonderful original post, but I'd like to know what kind of photgraphic equipment you used to take them.

TB </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Just a Nikon D40 with manual focus engaged. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

http://blog.chip.de/schnaeppchen-blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/nikon_d40.jpg

cawimmer430
02-21-2008, 11:24 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Blutarski2004:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by cawimmer430:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Blutarski2004:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by cawimmer430:
I usually scout cemetaries for these kinds of things. So if I'm somewhere new I also check them out.

I found two war graves in two small towns: Zangberg and Mößling, both with a population of about 200-300 and with a long list of dead from 1870-1871, 1914-1918 and 1939-1945. Will visit again with my camera. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WTE_Pharoah:
yeah its one thing to know lots of germans and russians died fighting in the east in WW2, but its totally diff to actually see pics of the dead...kinda puts a 'face to the name' so to speak.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Agree 100%. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


..... Visit the small graveyard of the ancient monastery on Fraueninsel in the Chiemsee. Alfred Jodl is buried there. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Already saw it. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

But I was only about 11 years old at the time and not into photography or history at all. That all came later...


On a side note, a close friend of my father, his wife is one of the daughters of the personal physician to Erwin Rommel!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Let me check with my mom what his name was. Maybe this stuff is even online! Her husband is Fritz Wieser of Brewery Wieser (http://www.brauerei-wieser.de/) in Wiesmühl.

Despite being in her late '60s, she's a damn fine looking woman! She and her sister were the town beauties according to my mom. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


..... A small world. Here's a story. I was on the phone chatting one day with an IT distributor in Chicago. I asked him his name. He say XXX Boelke. I said "are you related to the famous Oswald Boelke"? He said "Who is he"?. I said "a very famous German pilot from WW1". He said "hmmm, my aunt once told me there was some kind of pilot in our family way back then".

True story. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

He should know better! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

cawimmer430
02-21-2008, 11:27 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by woofiedog:
Excellent photos... and I agree with WTE_Pharoah. It puts a face to the names that are usually only a list. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Rickustyit
02-21-2008, 01:04 PM
Very moving.

As has been already said, you really see history from a different perspective after watching those fallen soldiers' pictures.

I am 25 years old , and I often imagine what would be like to go to war at my age...

Nice reportage Christian, as always.

I often only search for the " *** " threads on the IL2 forums when I get online. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Ciao
Riccardo

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