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Snow_Wolf_
05-12-2004, 06:56 PM
Yep come on i know i am not the only out there

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Snow_Wolf_
05-12-2004, 06:56 PM
Yep come on i know i am not the only out there

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Arm_slinger
05-12-2004, 07:10 PM
" anyone got some sausages to hand?"

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p1ngu666
05-12-2004, 09:24 PM
got any info on that bird
i know jack about it http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

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heywooood
05-12-2004, 09:48 PM
The Spad... nice overhead view.

Navy carrier based Groundpounder extraordinair

Too late for WWII by a month or so - lasted in service until end of Vietnam conflict.

kiteman_1
05-12-2004, 10:19 PM
yup i like skyraider
once i saw a picture of it with full loads of bombs and rockets... very impresive

just wondering if the skyraider is actually the grandson of P47

Urist
05-12-2004, 10:29 PM
There are some nice shots of Skyraiders in "Flight of the Intruder"...

The movie is pretty crappy but has some neat footage in it. It was made by John "Conan/Red Dawn" Milnus, who thinks the Vietnam war was probably a whole lotta fun...

Useless trivia:

A lot of the footage from that movie was reused in the film "Hot Shots". Especially the carrier ops stuff.

IV_JG51_Razor
05-12-2004, 11:19 PM
The AD was the first carrier plane to ever launch from a carrier carrying more payload (fuel and ord) than it's own empty weight.

As a test (more like a publicty stunt), the Navy launched a squadron of ADs from a carrier on the West coast, and they (most of them) flew non stop, and recovered on a carrier out on the East coast!

It was the last US Navy plane to drop a torpedo in combat. It did this against a dam in North Korea.

It had dive brakes, but could also use it's landing gear as a brake (no gear extention speed). It was also a very capable fighter above 10,000ft. My dad was exec of the first AD squadron in the Navy, and he told me that the AD could "....take an F8F-2 above 10K due to it's superior 2 stage super charger" I must say, I've always had my doubts about that sea story http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

At any rate, it's got to be one of the better planes Douglas ever built for the Navy!

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GR142_Astro
05-13-2004, 12:54 AM
Yet another reason for Oleg and 1C to release: IL10:Korea http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

The "Spad" could carry more weapons payload than the B17. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif As someone points out, it missed WW2 by months. Can you imagine this nightmare roaming the skies over the Falaise Gap? Would have been even uglier. Certainly a ground-pounder's dream machine.

Lookie all the hardpoints:

http://www.f4aviation.co.uk/airshow03/riat/partfour/skyraider.jpg

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dbuff
05-13-2004, 06:10 AM
always one of my favorite aircraft.

i would have loved to have this over the german 1946 planes.

i think someone posted that it flew in 1945 in prototype? dont quote me - maybe i am just remembering it the way i want to.

non solum armis

Snow_Wolf_
05-13-2004, 06:24 AM
SPECIFICATIONS
Span: 50 ft. 1/4 in.
Length: 40 ft.
Height: 15 ft. 9 5/8 in.
Weight: 24,872 lbs. max.
Armament: Four 20mm cannons and a wide assortment of bombs, rockets, mines, grenades, flares and gun pods.
Engine: Wright R-3350 of 2,700 hp.
Cost: $414,000
Serial number: 52-132649

PERFORMANCE
Maximum speed: 325 mph.
Cruising speed: 240 mph.
Range: 1,500 miles
Service Ceiling: 26,200 ft.

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LilHorse
05-13-2004, 08:23 AM
Oh yeah, love the Skyraider.

p1ngu666
05-13-2004, 09:33 AM
hmm how all those rails for bombs etc effect handling? cos in il2 even 2 of those = dire handling :\

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RasMichael
05-13-2004, 11:43 AM
The able dog was well loved by those who flew it, others remarked that one of its qualities was the simplicity of operation: Take-off at 120 knots, climb at 120 knots, cruise at 120 knots and land at 120 knots.

It would require some good CAP to survive missions with this beast on-line, and we mud-movers in the community know how hard thats is to come by.

Still, I would dearly love having an able dog at my virtual disposal. Booooom http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Stay on the bomb run boys. I'm goin' to get them doors open if it hare lips everybody on Bear Creek

Blottogg
05-13-2004, 05:11 PM
The first shot is of an A-1E, the Air Force's family model, with four seats up top. Some versions could transport several people accomodated in seats buried down in the fuselage.

The plane excelled at missions that don't see much play in Sturmovik: Close Air Support and Combat Search And Rescue. The Sandy was great for escorting rescue helicopters in Vietnam, since the cruise speeds were similar, and the Sandys had enough endurance and payload to hang around and suppress the enemy while the choppers rescued U.S. aircrew survivors. The barn door sized speedbrakes on the fuselage sides probably allowed some impressively steep dive bomb angles, too. A-10's are good at these missions today for similar reasons.

Another case of the Air Force turning to the Navy to get the aircraft they need for the mission (along with the F-4 and the A-7.) Embarrassing, but effective.

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TX-Chukar
05-13-2004, 08:42 PM
I beleive it was a Skyraider that claimed the first or one of the first air to air victories for the US in Vietnam. I remember a story of an over confident Mig pilot that thought he had some easy pickings when oops, the slower Skyraider turned inside the Mig and got off a good gun shot which downed the Mig.





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james8325
05-13-2004, 08:58 PM
the skyraider reminds me of the a-10. The long wings do it i guess. the skyraider is one of my favorite aircraft ever built. I love the attack aircraft that carry very heavy payloads, and i never got into jets. Props are more elegant in my opinion.

DDad
05-13-2004, 09:02 PM
Ummm, wasn't the Skyraiders also tasked to do Nuclear Ops? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

rawheid_rex
05-14-2004, 12:49 AM
Someone did a 3rd party version of the Skyraider for Strike Fighters: Project 1 (the game that patch forgot http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif) It looked good, but as with all of the SFP1 aircraft, the FM's were questionable to say the least http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

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RasMichael
05-14-2004, 01:25 AM
Here's the URL for a very good A-1 site.

http://skyraider.org/skyassn/index.htm

Stay on the bomb run boys. I'm goin' to get them doors open if it hare lips everybody on Bear Creek

PBNA-Boosher
05-14-2004, 06:13 AM
OH YEAH! COME ON! An AD-1 would be awesome, but isn't in a 46' category?

Jagdgeschwader2
05-14-2004, 06:34 AM
Oh man I have always loved the Skyraider. Massive firepower and a huge radial engine. What more could you want in a ground attack aircraft? There's a good book out called "Cheating Death" Combat Air Rescues in Vietnam and Laos. The author of the book George J. Marrett flew the famous A-1J Skyraider called "Sock It To Em". This book is a very good read.

A speck of dirt on your windscreen could turn into an enemy fighter in the time it took to look round and back again. A little smear on your goggles might hide the plane that was coming in to kill you.
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Skyraider3D
05-14-2004, 07:31 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by GR142_Astro:
Yet another reason for Oleg and 1C to release: IL10:Korea http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

O d*mn yea! That would be ultimately wickedness http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

I was so looking forward to the Korea game a few years ago - what was it called, Sabre Ace or something? Too bad it wasn't great. But IL-10:Korea would be too cool http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

It would also contain two other favourites of mine, the Corsair and the Tigercat. But who cares,
WE WANT SKYRAIDERS!!! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

The worst thing about the Skyraider was that there weren't enough built! This was the ultimate reason for it's early(?) retirement... Such a shame! They could've gone all the way to the A-1Z. Or wait... would that be a Twin-Skyraider, like the Bf 109 Z? O I better shut up now, hehe http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

PS. Can you tell I am a Skyraider fan? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
I should do one in 3D once...
http://www.skyraider3d.com

HangerQueen
05-14-2004, 08:04 AM
Look what Santa's bringing you this year....

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LilHorse
05-14-2004, 09:02 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DDad:
Ummm, wasn't the Skyraiders also tasked to do Nuclear Ops? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes. Believe it or not, they had them do practice with "tossing" nuclear bombs. Of course they knew that the technique wouldn't save them from the blast. Needless to say, the program didn't last too long.