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KillerCharlie
01-06-2004, 04:53 PM
Well my current joystick bit the dust and I need a new one.

What do you guys think about the Saitek-45, specifically the rudder control? Do you find it nice and fluid and not coarse? I play Lomac, MSFS 2004, and I'm starting to play IL-2 FB (even though I can pretty much only shoot down planes that are at point blank range).

KillerCharlie
01-06-2004, 04:53 PM
Well my current joystick bit the dust and I need a new one.

What do you guys think about the Saitek-45, specifically the rudder control? Do you find it nice and fluid and not coarse? I play Lomac, MSFS 2004, and I'm starting to play IL-2 FB (even though I can pretty much only shoot down planes that are at point blank range).

tenmmike
01-06-2004, 05:00 PM
the x-45 is a nice stick except the poor rudder control ......i run my x-45 with a msffb2 and that is the way to go (IMHO)and use the x-45 asa my throttle ..and stick and throttle as a butten bay...get a force feed back stick if ya can...it helped me a lot

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adlabs6
01-06-2004, 05:07 PM
Fluid and not coarse? For that kind of thing, you'd do best to go to a store where you can get hands on experince. I like my X45, lots of value for my dollar.

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steve_v
01-06-2004, 05:20 PM
I've had the x45 for well over a year and have recently gotten pedals. The rocker rudder is not that difficult to master and still better than a twist stick, IMO.

KillerCharlie
01-06-2004, 06:14 PM
Well I had trouble getting my fingers on the rudder at the one at the store, but maybe I'd get used to it. I don't like twisting ones and don't really care for the rocking one, but I'm not shelling out money for pedals.

I was also wondering if the rudder on the x-45 was smooth/coarse inputwise, not just physically.

Any other opinions?

adlabs6
01-06-2004, 06:26 PM
Oh, in terms of input smoothness, I've never had any problems, and I've had mine for a year now. Very rarely, the rotaries will jump abit on mine by 2% to 5%, but a wiggle will usually stop it. I hasn't ever affected my gameplay, but in FS2004, I don't like seeing my mix levers moving that little bit. http://www.geocities.com/adlabs6/B/bin/1/happy.gif

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T_O_A_D
01-06-2004, 06:32 PM
I love mine and for the price I feel it can't be beat!!

Combine it with pedals and TIR and its the most you can get out of this sim without FFB

here is My X45 setup (http://home.mchsi.com/~131st___vfw/Toads_X-45.doc) still tweaking as alwyas though been fooling with flaps on left pedal now and brakes on right. I only use the Saitek profiler for setting controls for center of TIR and A button for Team speak. Its just easier for me to set up controls throught the game than fight back and forths setting up profile. I've had it set up that way with profler in all 3 modes before but my enept ability to remember what mode i'M IN MANAGED TO KILL ME OR CAUSE ME TO MISS AN OPORTUNITY TO SHOOT WAY TO OFTEN SO i HAD TO KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID FOR ME a crap I hit cap locks see stupid stupid me LOL

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TheGozr
01-06-2004, 07:05 PM
I have the Cyborg evo saitek and i like it so far
very simple
I always prefere separate buttons instead of one doing many things.( during fight your mind must be focust in your ennemy and get simples and effectif buttons)
I did like the feeling of the Joystick X45 vs the EVO to me it was a wrong angle.

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TheGozr
01-06-2004, 07:13 PM
T.O.A.D a litle 1 vs 1? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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T_O_A_D
01-06-2004, 08:01 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TheGozr:
T.O.A.D a litle 1 vs 1? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

-GOZR<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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XyZspineZyX
01-06-2004, 08:07 PM
I love my X-45. I guess the rocker rudder takes getting used to if you've had a twist stick. I didn't have any rudder control on my last stick so I'm as happy as a clam.

Value for dollar/euro/kopeck/peso/etc. cannot be beat.

The only thing it doesn't have is force feedback, but I don't miss that because I never had it.

Unless money is no object, get the X-45!

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WhiskeyRiver
01-06-2004, 09:41 PM
I've had mine for 2 years with no troubles. The rudder rocker works ok but pedals are definitely better. The centering collar on the base gets a little sticky at times but a little powdered graphite keeps it smooth. You can't beat it for the money.

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Bearcat99
01-06-2004, 10:01 PM
I have the X45/MSFFB2/CH pedals set up like Mike. I would seriously suggest you get soime pedals. Pedals and a HOTAS is the abolute way to go. I intend to try TIR again (TIR2) when I get the money. The X45 is a great stick in any sim. Its programmability makes it an obvious choice for LOMAC or FB. I have heard of guys with sticks costing twice as much having to replace pots and such after a year..... X45=Max bang for buck. If you can get a refurbed one here for $39.. http://store.yahoo.com/saitekusa/recprod.html

If they are out I suggest you go on and spend the $$ for a new one. It will be worth it.

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BPLIzard
01-06-2004, 10:58 PM
Bearcat,
I've been visiting that site for a long time and haven't seen a refurb that's actually on sale.


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Bearcat99
01-07-2004, 05:08 AM
Thats cause since it's been posted here they are sucked up as soon as they come in. A few guys here managed to get some.

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KillerCharlie
01-08-2004, 12:23 PM
Well I went and bought one but now I'm not sure if I need it. I haven't opened it yet because I haven't had time and college starts back up Monday so I'll have even less. I'll probably just play MSFS and Lomac.

Has anyone flown helicopters on MSFS with the rock-rudder on the X45? I haven't yet and it'd be fun to try, but it seems like it might be hard on the X-45. Would a twist joystick be better?

XyZspineZyX
01-08-2004, 12:29 PM
You might try using the rotaries for cyclic and tailrotor. You could use the rocker for rotor tilt. Or a similar combo, whatever is comfortable.

Not really sure though as I haven't tried my X-45 with a helo sim.....yet.

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KillerCharlie
01-08-2004, 10:50 PM
Will Best Buy let me return it (within a reasonable time like a week) if I end up not liking it?

KillerCharlie
01-09-2004, 11:39 AM
bump

T_O_A_D
01-09-2004, 02:08 PM
From My experience Best Buy has one of the most leaniant return policies I've seen,They will refund, trade up or down.

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MDS_Geist
01-09-2004, 03:26 PM
I love the X-45. It has a nice, heavy weight and responds beautifully. Very fluid, and does not feel coarse at all. Been using it pretty much since it came out and haven't had a single problem with it.