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Fighterduck
07-19-2005, 03:31 AM
So...i tried to find some answere in old post there in the forum..but cuoldn't find what i was looking for.
I think i will buy a X-52 today...but in the post a have read i found that it has a really bad dead zone and some precison issues.
I tried to find solutions in those threads..looking for possible configurations in .ini files or something like this...but I didn't find anything.
So, if i buy a x-52 and it will have precision issues ( that will make plaiyng PF really hard ) is there something that ca I do or not?

thanks!

Fighterduck
07-19-2005, 03:31 AM
So...i tried to find some answere in old post there in the forum..but cuoldn't find what i was looking for.
I think i will buy a X-52 today...but in the post a have read i found that it has a really bad dead zone and some precison issues.
I tried to find solutions in those threads..looking for possible configurations in .ini files or something like this...but I didn't find anything.
So, if i buy a x-52 and it will have precision issues ( that will make plaiyng PF really hard ) is there something that ca I do or not?

thanks!

STENKA_69.GIAP
07-19-2005, 05:00 AM
I've got an X52 and four other sticks - it's the best of the bunch at the moment - doesn't have any precision or deadzone problems. If it did you can tune them out.

Check out the links off of Tully's answer in

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/49310655/m/5451001933

Fighterduck
07-19-2005, 05:22 AM
aaaaahh! that's the kind of thread I was looking for http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif ..thanks!
So I hope i will not throw my money out of the window buing on of this joystick...I really need a new one and for this price..I didn't found anything better

Kyril1959
07-19-2005, 05:47 AM
Look for and purchase an X52 with serial number above S00245477. These don't have the deadzone issues that early models did.

Fighterduck
07-19-2005, 06:30 AM
ah...didn't know this "tip"...ok will see if the serial n will be above this!
thanks!!

3.JG51_BigBear
07-19-2005, 08:25 AM
I've had mine for a couple weeks now and I can honestly say I've never had a stick this nice. Most recenetly I've had the MSFF2, the Saitek Evo, and a logitech force feedback stick. The X-52 beats them all hands down.

Chivas
07-19-2005, 10:41 AM
Be sure to buy one where it can be returned or replaced easily. I had one of the early issues, that the deadzone could not be adjusted.

Fighterduck
07-19-2005, 12:32 PM
You are about to say the opposites things I have read on most post...i think i will really buy it.

deadzone could not be adjusted --> I have to adjust it with saitek software or with PF settings?

3.JG51_BigBear
07-19-2005, 01:50 PM
I don't think any of the new x-52s have the dead zone problem, mine doesn't.

Chivas
07-19-2005, 03:12 PM
I'm not saying don't buy the X52. It has the potential of being a great stick. I'm just saying be carefull you get the later models without the firmware deadzone that was not adjustable. If you went to the Saitek forums you would find many posts on this issue.

Actually I'm not sure the latest models removed the firmware deadzone, but you may find answers at their forums.

I found the X52 did many things very well. Setting up control functions and profiles is easy and almost limitless.

It was a not starter for me because of the long throw and large deadzone which made precise shooting impossible. Others did not have this problem.

If your deadzone is unbalanced you can open the stick and easily center the hall sensors. Although you void the warranty.

If your throttle is not recognized at start up, just unplugging and replugging the unit should fix this. There is a problem with nforce 3 and 4 motherboards and usb hubs that you should find answers for at their forums.

Good luck

Fighterduck
07-19-2005, 03:53 PM
I see..thank you guys!
I Always appreciate the help that "you" provide on this forum!
I will sure buy it tomorrow!

Thanks

Arms1
07-19-2005, 06:04 PM
i dropped a note to saitek a few weeks ago regarding dead zone on x52....reply was that all sticks being sold now have the updated firmware (online purchase at saitek of course), i would check serial #'s if purchasing off the shelf

Tully__
07-20-2005, 12:51 AM
I've only tried the one (I own it) and I have no issues at all with it. It has no built in deadzone, only what I might choose to add in the game.

VF-29_Sandman
07-20-2005, 04:20 PM
i just got the x-52 today, and ooo baaa-aby whatta stick. very responsive to inputs; almost a tad too responsive using the rotary's for rudder/airleon trim. rudder control is quick on the jump also. my only ? is...how to utilize the 3 toggle switches on the stick in a profile.

Tully__
07-20-2005, 05:38 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VF-29_Sandman:
my only ? is...how to utilize the 3 toggle switches on the stick in a profile. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Possibilities might include raise/lower flaps, manual raise/lower gear, toggle chocks, toggle seat height, bombsight controls...anything you don't use often but need good reliable control of when you do use it.

For players who're mostly offline you could assign your most common AI commands to them using Advanced Commmands.... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

VF-29_Sandman
07-20-2005, 05:41 PM
not bad ideas...dohhhhhhhh y didnt i think of those. daaaaaa http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

GRYPHON_401Cdn
07-20-2005, 10:02 PM
I bought one 3 months back from CompUSA. It had a big deadzone, and tech spt said there was nothing they could do.

Returned it. Shame; it looked real good and had loads of functionality

Fighterduck
07-21-2005, 01:08 AM
From what i see...it's just a history of luck http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

no not again
07-21-2005, 04:48 AM
Hi join the Saitek forum as it can be very helpful. If the deadzone is OFF centre they will replace it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Bye for now

Fighterduck
07-21-2005, 06:58 AM
ok..in 4 hours i'll have my X-52....if the dead zone is out...or too large...what will be the effects on fliyng controls?

Chivas
07-21-2005, 10:37 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Fighterduck:
ok..in 4 hours i'll have my X-52....if the dead zone is out...or too large...what will be the effects on fliyng controls? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The deadzone will not give to much of a problem with general flying, but fining tuning a kill shot will be very difficult. It can be done but the extra time it takes will get you killed by his wingman. Many would probably not notice the problem if they were a lousy shot in the first place. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

stathem
07-21-2005, 12:34 PM
Can I just check. I know this is a pretty stupid question but... I'm looking at getting one of these shortly. If at a future point I can get some dosh together for some CH pedals, will they be able to override the twisty rudder?

VF-29_Sandman
07-21-2005, 01:48 PM
u can lock the stick and it wont twist if u want to use rudder pedals. the 'rudder lock' switch is on the bottom of the stick http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

stathem
07-21-2005, 02:12 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VF-29_Sandman:
u can lock the stick and it wont twist if u want to use rudder pedals. the 'rudder lock' switch is on the bottom of the stick http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks, that sets my mind at rest. Just a couple more weeks for an X-52.

Tully__
07-23-2005, 05:23 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stathem:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VF-29_Sandman:
u can lock the stick and it wont twist if u want to use rudder pedals. the 'rudder lock' switch is on the bottom of the stick http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks, that sets my mind at rest. Just a couple more weeks for an X-52. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>You'll also need to re-assign the rudder axis to the pedals within the game controls screen. It's all covered in the "I added a second controller..." section of the "Joysticks..." article linked under my signature picture.