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Xiolablu3
05-31-2007, 01:16 AM
Thought this was quite cool...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ-a8U1QWUw

I love using the Mosquito on 1942 maps in IL2.

Xiolablu3
05-31-2007, 01:16 AM
Thought this was quite cool...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ-a8U1QWUw

I love using the Mosquito on 1942 maps in IL2.

joeap
05-31-2007, 01:31 AM
It is!!!

Xiolablu3
05-31-2007, 02:19 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by joeap:
It is!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I didnt notice this bit before, but do you see how heavy the flak is when they are attacking those ships after 2m:00s&gt;?

Seriously heavy.

GreyKnight1971
05-31-2007, 04:10 AM
Outstanding stuff indeed! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

Can we load up with that bazooka or the rockets on the Mozzie in '46 too?

John_Wayne_
05-31-2007, 04:38 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GreyKnight1971:
Outstanding stuff indeed! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

Can we load up with that bazooka or the rockets on the Mozzie in '46 too? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Unlikely. The thing actually existed - I mean it flew combat missions an' stuff. It just wouldn't fit in with all those spotty kids who think fantasy jets are cool and their perverted view of historical events. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

Got to agree it's a great movie though. Thanks for sharing.

Philipscdrw
05-31-2007, 07:15 AM
They stopped building more FB.18s (the ones with the six-pounder gun) when the RAF realised that a salvo of rockets is more effective, especially as the Mosquito can keep its four 20mm cannon...

The Banff wing was quite something. Sweeps of approx thirty Mosquitos, mostly FB.6 with half-a-dozen FB.18, some armed with rockets, some with bombs (I think?), and one aircraft a dedicated 'camera ship' to get footage like that used in the video. I hope we get a late-war Mosquito FB.6 which can be more competitive in 1944 scenarios, with rockets and more powerful engines (and the cockpit bar fixed and Vne raised)...

Hanglands
05-31-2007, 07:57 AM
Hi,

Thats a great clip. Thanks. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

I didnt know about the 6lb'er guns before, so I learned something too. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

That line about the 8x60lb rockets... "...equivalent to the broadside of a light cruiser..."

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m203/ChickenHawk_2006/mozcruiser.jpg

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif I'd never thought of it in those terms before.

Anyway, great post.

Regards.

Philipscdrw
05-31-2007, 08:28 AM
And you can get 18 Mossie FB.VIs from Banff to Norway and back in hours, unlike a cruiser, and at much lower cost of materials and crew... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

mynameisroland
05-31-2007, 08:52 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Philipscdrw:
Vne raised... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Most important fix for the mossie right there

Ed6269
05-31-2007, 09:04 AM
This is the gun the mossie crews referred to as "Tsetse fly." How much deceleration did it cause, I wonder. I remember reading somewhere that only a few were used.

stathem
05-31-2007, 10:02 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Philipscdrw:
They stopped building more FB.18s (the ones with the six-pounder gun) when the RAF realised that a salvo of rockets is more effective, especially as the Mosquito can keep its four 20mm cannon...

The Banff wing was quite something. Sweeps of approx thirty Mosquitos, mostly FB.6 with half-a-dozen FB.18, some armed with rockets, some with bombs (I think?), and one aircraft a dedicated 'camera ship' to get footage like that used in the video. I hope we get a late-war Mosquito FB.6 which can be more competitive in 1944 scenarios, with rockets and more powerful engines (and the cockpit bar fixed and Vne raised)... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Some 500lbrs yes, and also depth charges occasionally. Before the Banff Mossies were cleared for rockets they used to form combined packages with the Dallachy rocket and torpedo Beaufighters.

luftluuver
05-31-2007, 10:31 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hanglands:
That line about the 8x60lb rockets... "...equivalent to the broadside of a light cruiser..." </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I have read that the warhead of the 60lb rocket was a 6" gun shell.

Roblex
05-31-2007, 12:24 PM
It is good to see that Real Life Mossie pilots could be just as bad at gunnery as me http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

woofiedog
05-31-2007, 01:36 PM
Excellent find of this Mosquito video clip! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

LStarosta
05-31-2007, 02:28 PM
azmazingz

Xiolablu3
05-31-2007, 02:37 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Roblex:
It is good to see that Real Life Mossie pilots could be just as bad at gunnery as me http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


I think the problem is that the rockets all fire at once (two at a time, with about 1/2 sec in between)) after you hit the fire button. (Or so I believe)

Therefore some are always going to miss.

I think the pilots tried to get at least 2 of the 8 to hit directly and any more was a bonus.

They were more of an 'area weapon' than a precision weapon. Trying to hit a single tank or ship, most would inevitably miss, however firing them into a mass of troops and soft vehicles would have a devastating effect.

As long as 2 of the rockets hit a ship I htink the attack would be considered a great success, you couldnt expect any more than that really.

Maybe someone can confirm if they all fired after you pressed hte button, or could you fire 2 at a time?

If it WAS possible to do 2 at a time, then maybe they were told to just do one pass and loose off every rocket, as the flak there looks very heavy.

HellToupee
05-31-2007, 07:33 PM
they arnt that inaccurate with ship sized targets its just the pilots fire them while shooting the target with guns so they hit too low, or they rush it and miss completely eg that mossie that launchers its rockets way over top :P

Zeus-cat
05-31-2007, 08:59 PM
The 6 pounder gun - 25 rounds in 20 seconds. That'll spoil your breakfast if you are on the receiving end.

Xiolablu3
05-31-2007, 09:17 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HellToupee:
they arnt that inaccurate with ship sized targets its just the pilots fire them while shooting the target with guns so they hit too low, or they rush it and miss completely eg that mossie that launchers its rockets way over top :P </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I am sure the rockets that go over the top are actually the the last pair and we see the 3rd pair hitting just before you see those two go over the top.

At what time are you seeing this?

I am talking about the pair or rockets we see fired at 2m04s and then there is another pair right after those which go over the top.

Arent these from the same plane?

They may be firing in groups of four, or we may only catch the last two pairs if they are firing in groups of two..


After looking again, It could be that we see the plane fire 4 pair of rockets with the last pair going over the top?

Its hard to see actually, because there is so much going on, so many planes and so much flak. Maybe you guys could describe what you are seeing?

HellToupee
05-31-2007, 10:29 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Xiolablu3:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HellToupee:
they arnt that inaccurate with ship sized targets its just the pilots fire them while shooting the target with guns so they hit too low, or they rush it and miss completely eg that mossie that launchers its rockets way over top :P </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I am sure the rockets that go over the top are actually the the last pair and we see the 3rd pair hitting just before you see those two go over the top.

At what time are you seeing this?

I am talking about the pair or rockets we see fired at 2m04s and then there is another pair right after those which go over the top.

Arent these from the same plane?

They may be firing in groups of four, or we may only catch the last two pairs if they are firing in groups of two..


After looking again, It could be that we see the plane fire 4 pair of rockets with the last pair going over the top?

Its hard to see actually, because there is so much going on, so many planes and so much flak. Maybe you guys could describe what you are seeing? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

there all planes firing single salvos of 8 rockets, if you look closely each plane only fires rockets once, theres quite alot of planes.

At 2.28 u can see first hand view of rockets being fired, fired while shooting the ship with guns from quite far out, pilot didnt account for drop.