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mole_nz
01-06-2005, 01:20 AM
I've just starting playing IL2 sturmovik or should I say started to learn to fly the ME 109. After a couple of days of practice I can finally take off without landing upside down running into another plane or worse yet a fuel tanker, I still have trouble taking off in a straight line, I'm just glad the russian steppe's are flat. One day I'll even manage to finish the first mission, if I can only figure out how to not get hopelesly lost that is. I had to follow the bombers back to the airfield after losing sight of the fighters and after a dozen attempts at lining up the runway, and subsequently losing sight of it again I gave up and just put it down anyway and got my first perfect landing, woohoo what an excellent feeling to land and still have a plane capable of taking off again instead of a pile of scrap.
My hat is off to 1C for making such an awesome simulation.

BaldieJr
01-06-2005, 01:31 AM
Welcome to our addiction!

Thats how it starts: you try to take off and crash. After you learn to take off, you try to land and crash.

Eventually you'll get good a both and find that you crash during dogfights.

No worries, its normal http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Keep practicing. You're already one of us (we suffered through all that crashing and loved every second of it too)!

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Chivas
01-06-2005, 01:49 AM
Ahhh the crashin never ends.

My favorite way to disable my 109 is with Track IR Pro3. I love the way I can follow my opponants every move as I fly into the ground. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Spinne_3.-JG51
01-06-2005, 01:58 AM
Try joining a squad. Most squads don't require experience, just some commitment (I know ours satisfies this criteria). Squad members will tech you how to fly, shoot, navigate and will also provide more fun then playing offline.

dieg777
01-06-2005, 02:13 AM
Hi and welcolm

Yes it is a bit hard at first but here are a few things to help you out

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=23110283&m=8901086932

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?q=Y&a=tpc&s=400102&f=23110283&m=9181071422&p=1

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=23110283&m=4901007622&r=9131017622#9131017622

there are many resources on the web too here is a list

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=23110283&m=51910959


I would recommend this site - it has the unofficial FAQ and good guides

http://www.airwarfare.com/


hope this helps

WTE_Ibis
01-06-2005, 02:29 AM
You are now one of us,you cannot escape,WE control the vertical,WE control the horizontal,DO NOT adjust your set,you have become OLEGGED.
Just go with the flow,don't fight it,we WILL extract our pound of flesh on line at a later date be sure. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

sc1949
01-06-2005, 02:46 AM
Keep trying, and search thru these and other forums for tips on flying, and they'll have you an Ace in no time. Keep the nose down with ME109 till you hit 250kts, then lift off. Good luck.

AlGroover
01-06-2005, 02:56 AM
Very good choice of plane. It does everything well, nothing badly. Bit tricky to land though. To start with, you can use the minimap to navigate if you have it enabled but the waypoint compass is easy to use too. Also check out the 'user defined' options on the control page for all sorts of useful stuff.

carguy_
01-06-2005, 03:06 AM
Stick to the Me109 exclusively and you`ll see that it is one of the five best overall planes in the game.

And believe me,it`s very rewarding to learn to fly this baby.

OldMan____
01-06-2005, 03:50 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by carguy_:
Stick to the Me109 exclusively and you`ll see that it is one of the five best overall planes in the game.

And believe me,it`s very rewarding to learn to fly this baby. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

yeap true. just after the FW190 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

FlatSpinMan
01-06-2005, 05:12 AM
Hi mole_nz,
I 'm a kiwi too (or is the NZ in your name just a coinkydinky? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif).
Anyway, you'll love this game. I started a couple of months ago and can now land more often than not. To be honest though, I tend to die in mid-air(especially online) reasonably frequently, thus minimising my landing opportunities.
If you are looking for an easier plane to land, I recommend the Hurri or the Mustang as they have more widely separated landing gear and are therefore a bit more forgiving on landing. the Fw190 also has this but is a bit mercurial for a beginner.
If you're not already, I suggest flying with most difficulty settings on (except maybe complex engine management and no externals) as you'll learn very quickly what makes the plane happy and what makes it Mr Angrypants-that- wants-to-fly-you-into-the-ground-at-high-speeds.
As for navigation I still rely heavily on the map ("M" key). Even then, finding the airfield can be quite a challenge.
One good mission pack that you might want to download is extreme_one's Battle over Britain. you start off in a trainer Hurricane and have a couple of missions to work out what is what with gunnery, climbing, landing, etc. Plus it's a pretty map. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif
Check out www.il2skins.com (http://www.il2skins.com) for a selection of NZ skins. there are a few for the P-51,P-40M and the Corsair. If you have Pacific fighers you can even fly for the RNZAF http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Any questions, just PM me.
Have fun!

Xnomad
01-06-2005, 05:58 AM
Hold on, he said he was playing IL2 sturmovik not FB or PF so taking off is harder. I remember when taking off in a Bf 109 Emil back then that the slightest pull too hard on the elevators and you would stall and crash. The flight model was much more difficult to control IIRC

tsisqua
01-06-2005, 06:15 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Xnomad:
Hold on, he said he was playing IL2 sturmovik not FB or PF so taking off is harder. I remember when taking off in a Bf 109 Emil back then that the slightest pull too hard on the elevators and you would stall and crash. The flight model was much more difficult to control IIRC <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I still have IL2 original installed, and yes, it is much harder to take off in that game with any plane. I also love the sense of sheer speed while taking off in the original game. I thought that the sounds of the planes on the ground were awesome as well. It gave you that "OOoohhh GAAaaaawwwwddd!!!!!! Here we Goooooooooo!" sort of feeling.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gifWelcome To The Madnesshttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

Tsisqua

Bearcat99
01-06-2005, 06:37 AM
Welcome aboard!! Make sure you sign into the who we are thread....... Get Forgotten Battles Aces Expansion GOLD and Pacific Fighters. You wont be sorry. I got a buddy of mine who married a Kiwi and moved to NZ from NYC about 4 years ago.

FlatSpinMan
01-06-2005, 07:37 AM
Cool. We need all the people we can get. gets kind of lonely down there sometimes http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

mole_nz
01-06-2005, 04:31 PM
Yep I'm a kiwi, thanks for all the tips guys, looks like I've got a bit of reading to do and lots of practice, I had no idea there was a map, I'll have to check that out. I'm going to get forgotten battles and the ace expansion but would like to stick with the 109 although I'll try the other planes as well. If the sturmovik planes are harder to fly than the ones in FB does that mean the flight model is not as accurate in the original game. I've been using the realism settings but have external views and icons enabled as well, as I get better I'll go to full realism. Once I get FB I'll go online and find a squadron (any southern hemisphere squadrons out there), much better trying to shoot down a 'real' pilot than an AI one.

Kiwiflyer
01-06-2005, 05:24 PM
Hi there molenz, welcome to the sim. what part of NZ are you from ?. there are a lot of kiwi's flying out there you will bump into a few from time time, enjoy

cheers Kiwiflyer

parksinperth
01-06-2005, 08:39 PM
Hi Kiwi, ah another fellow newbie. Iam an Xpat Kiwi living in sunny Perth WA who also has just started on the road to mastering IL2 FB. It is truely an awesome sim amd I know it will take many hours (of fun) to master it. Ive been flying on sims for about 10 years now but they just keep getting better and better.

mole_nz
01-06-2005, 09:22 PM
I'm in Blenheim, I might bump in to ya when I get online.

FlatSpinMan
01-07-2005, 06:41 AM
Japan here. I'll be looking for you guys on HyperLobby.

kameron1974
01-07-2005, 12:28 PM
Hahhahhahha. I've been playing Il2 for a year and I'm only now getting REALLY good at landing by shearing off my landing gear or flipping over on to the nose. But at least my pilot is alive. Thats what counts. Navigation = autopilot.

Udidtoo
01-07-2005, 01:16 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by mole_nz:
I've just starting playing IL2 sturmovik or should I say started to learn to fly the ME 109. After a couple of days of practice I can finally take off without landing upside down running into another plane or worse yet a fuel tanker, I still have trouble taking off in a straight line, I'm just glad the russian steppe's are flat. One day I'll even manage to finish the first mission, if I can only figure out how to not get hopelesly lost that is. I had to follow the bombers back to the airfield after losing sight of the fighters and after a dozen attempts at lining up the runway, and subsequently losing sight of it again I gave up and just put it down anyway and got my first perfect landing, woohoo what an excellent feeling to land and still have a plane capable of taking off again instead of a pile of scrap.
My hat is off to 1C for making such an awesome simulation. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

One day you will get just good enough to get in a mix and partially through luck and partially through the skill you almost didn't realize you were developing that bandit will flash across your site, you'll hit the fireing stud and saw a wing completly off and just like crack you will chase that high every chance you get.....ain't it great! Welcome to our world M8

wayno7777
01-07-2005, 10:54 PM
Welcome to this crazy addiction! Been dreaming of going to NZ. I wanna go trout fishing there. Actually, I've gotten to the point where I make pretty soft landings now. Under my parachute! LOL

F16_txmx
01-08-2005, 09:42 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WTE_Ibis:
you have become OLEGGED <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

lol gonna use that one http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

han freak solo
01-08-2005, 12:42 PM
The IL2 series is the hardest flight sim I've ever played. Absolutely worth the learning curve! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif