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JG26_Jabo_Fatz
03-13-2006, 05:56 PM
I realize there's a problem with Grumman over the avenger but couldn't a patch be made to allow the SBD to carry torpedoes even though it wouldn't be historically correct?
I couldn't find any single engine flyable plane (allied or axis) that will carry a torpedoe off of a carrier. Anybody know of one?

Fatz
www.AG26.org (http://www.AG26.org)

JG26_Jabo_Fatz
03-13-2006, 05:56 PM
I realize there's a problem with Grumman over the avenger but couldn't a patch be made to allow the SBD to carry torpedoes even though it wouldn't be historically correct?
I couldn't find any single engine flyable plane (allied or axis) that will carry a torpedoe off of a carrier. Anybody know of one?

Fatz
www.AG26.org (http://www.AG26.org)

Nimits
03-13-2006, 06:58 PM
There are no single engine carrier based torpedo bombers for any country in the game at this point.

icrash
03-13-2006, 07:06 PM
IL2-T will work, I've put it in instead of a Val for the Pearl Harbor raid in a campaign. Haven't been able to get it back down on the carrier yet.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v117/icrash/katie.jpg

Tooz_69GIAP
03-13-2006, 07:09 PM
IL-2T, A-20, Beaufighter, Betty, and He-111 can all be flown off a carrier. But more importantly, they can all be landed back on a carrier too!!

Okay, so it's not historically accurate, but neither is having KGV BBs at Pearl!!

zoinks_
03-13-2006, 07:38 PM
available at flying legends:
has anyone done a japanese version?
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e170/zoinks_/IL2-T-USNpack.jpg

Nimits
03-13-2006, 07:53 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">not historically accurate </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The length people will go to fly a torpedo bomber in the PTO . . . http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

To whoever did them, those are some nice (and very creative) skins, BTW

zoinks_
03-13-2006, 08:01 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Nimits:
The length people will go to fly a torpedo bomber in the PTO . . . http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

...and the length of some to keep them out.

Tooz_69GIAP
03-13-2006, 11:54 PM
Yes, there are some Japanese IL-2T skins around. I have one or two, but I forget where I got em from. I'd try downloading some user made pacific campaigns, and see if there are any IL-2T skins in there, or just have a look on the various skin sites like combatace, flyinglegends, netwings, etc.

EDIT: Here are two japanese IL-2T skins I have:

IL-2T Kaga (http://www.baseclass.modulweb.dk/69giap/fileadmin/69_giap_private/69_giap_public/Non-Squadron_Shared_Skins/IL2TKaga.bmp)

IL-2T Shokaku (http://www.baseclass.modulweb.dk/69giap/fileadmin/69_giap_private/69_giap_public/Non-Squadron_Shared_Skins/IL2TShokaku.bmp)

zoinks_
03-14-2006, 02:01 AM
thanks Tooz. they look good.

icrash
03-14-2006, 09:42 AM
I've got the army version I think, green squiggles over gray base, black cowling (no clue as to who did the work). I'm playing with one based off Akagi's "Val" markings but haven't finished it.

SnapdLikeAMutha
03-14-2006, 12:02 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tooz_69GIAP:
IL-2T, A-20, Beaufighter, Betty, and He-111 can all be flown off a carrier. But more importantly, they can all be landed back on a carrier too!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Holy poop! I can just about get a Seafire onto the deck!

Chuck_Older
03-14-2006, 04:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JG26_Jabo_Fatz:
I realize there's a problem with Grumman over the avenger but couldn't a patch be made to allow the SBD to carry torpedoes even though it wouldn't be historically correct?
I couldn't find any single engine flyable plane (allied or axis) that will carry a torpedoe off of a carrier. Anybody know of one?

Fatz
www.AG26.org (http://www.AG26.org) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


I recall some work in progress shots of a torpedo carrying SBD, from PF's infancy

faelas
03-24-2006, 02:49 PM
If someone can get a IL2T off an American carrier while carrying a torpedo, let me know how. Best idea I can come up with is an airstart. If I could get one off the deck I'd put them in in a heartbeat.

JG53Frankyboy
03-24-2006, 03:31 PM
carrier speed ?
fuel status ?

shinden1974
03-24-2006, 03:33 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by faelas:
If someone can get a IL2T off an American carrier while carrying a torpedo, let me know how. Best idea I can come up with is an airstart. If I could get one off the deck I'd put them in in a heartbeat. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Truce faelas http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

You can fly Il2T's off the deck of a carrier. I used Lowengrin's DCG to do this, setting up a coral sea campaign with SBD-3's and using DCG's interface to change the plane to Il-2T's. Even the chocks are in place. I set the flaps all the way to landing to get as much lift as possible and with stick all the way back I managed to get off the deck of the yorktown pretty easily.

You might be able to modify the missions or Dgen to allow this also, although I'm not familiar with the method. There have been posts about it in the past. It's not the same but it's decent.

zoinks_
03-24-2006, 04:04 PM
using the FMB you can create your own stuff. set carrier speed to 56km from 28km to help take off. il-2T has the torpedo loadout.
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e170/zoinks_/lex.jpg

good tutorials:
http://www.jumpintojapan.com/index.html

Snowman1025
03-24-2006, 06:13 PM
How do I set up carrier missions with planes like the He-111?

JG53Frankyboy
03-24-2006, 06:24 PM
check the manual PDF file that you can find in your game installation folder about Full Mission Builder.
than open the FMB and build what ever mission you want.....

WWSensei
03-26-2006, 05:59 AM
We used the IL2s as Torpedo bobmers in our WWBattles (WWBattles.com) re-enactment of the Battle of Santa Cruz.

For the battle we stipulated IL2s had to fly with take off flaps in order to cut it's speed to more historical speeds. A compromise, yes, but it was fun.

For takeoffs and landings we just used two of those practice airstrips laid end to end. Only the IL2s were allowed to land on it. If the carrier closest to the strip was sunk the strip was considered sunk as well.

It seemed kind of hokey at first but 20 seconds into the match that was all forgotten. It didn't take a lot of suspension of disbelief to have a blast.

Bearcat99
03-27-2006, 06:08 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tooz_69GIAP:

Okay, so it's not historically accurate, but neither is having KGV BBs at Pearl!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Right on Tooz...... I remember using Pe8s as B-17s... and La5s as Redtail planes in IL2 so.....

PBNA-Boosher
03-29-2006, 06:50 AM
I'm right with ya bearcat! I remember when people were using LaGG's as Spits!

Hoatee
03-29-2006, 02:27 PM
Your choice - my choice is not to be party to such ridicule (lissness). If it ain't in the game, it ain't. Pearl Harbour is a no play zone for me (because of the presence of RN ships).

But there is plenty else to keep me busy ingame.

zoinks_
03-29-2006, 05:39 PM
talk about ridiculous, did you see the post about the guy wanting a torp loadout for the yp-80?

Maraz_5SA
03-30-2006, 07:44 AM
I have just submitted to Flying Legends a skin for the IL-2T to act as a IJN torpedo bomber.

http://www.webalice.it/antonio.maraziti/il2T-IJN-scr.jpg

EDIT: available on Flying Legends, they were fast!! (thanks guys!)

Cheers
Maraz

faelas
03-30-2006, 08:43 AM
Truce Shinden http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

I made a pretty good looking green skin for the IL2T. I'll post it here later. I'm thinking about making a white one too.

When I was talking about getting a '2T off the deck I meant in dogfight mode, where your carrier can't be moving. The non-moving carriers are a pain in dogfight maps, can't get some planes up with no headwind and a decent loadout. I'll give your suggestions a try Shinden, hopefully I can get it.

There is another jap torpedo plane coming in the next patch, man I hope it's flyable.

Tooz_69GIAP
03-30-2006, 09:47 AM
Well, off a stationary carrier, getting an IL-2T off is nigh on impossible, although I think I've heard of one or two doing it. I almost did it a few times, but I never am able to get enough speed off the deck.

BUT!!!! If you take a Betty, with 50% fuel, and a torpedo, you can get it in the air with landing flaps down and rad open. It lifts off at 90kph!!! You do have to nurse her for the first few seconds, but she gets off the deck nicely!!

Again, of course, it's unhistorical (although the Betty was tested as a carrier aircraft - didn't work out), but it's fun!!

faelas
03-31-2006, 02:50 AM
Herre's my jap IL2T. I'll try to put it up over at Flying Legends in case anyone wants it.
http://www.imagebucket.net/images/Adler/2t.jpg
http://www.imagebucket.net/images/Adler/2t.jpg

G.J.deRue
04-01-2006, 05:15 AM
Faelas, I've posted about this skin on the paintschemes forum, but as it seems this thread is where the discussion has moved I'll post a link to it here (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/45410763/m/9291074624/r/6571018824#6571018824):

faelas
04-02-2006, 05:48 PM
please see my post about that on the paint scheme forum G.J.deRue. I hope the issue is resolved to your satisfaction.