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Voidable
11-29-2004, 05:41 PM
This is a beta so i'll tell you what i think..Ok here we go, im a little concerned .Is it the speed bar, me ,or the corsair. first of all i'm very happy with the hawg.(if you leave it just how it is ill be happy. if i found a bug and you fix it, good i helped, or maybe someone can teach me something this is a win win.) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
and so far the patch 3.02 is great but i can't get any of the speeds listed below ,or the speed listed in the veiw objects in game.
Now its prob me =). I'LL tell you what i'm doing first,using online map PF dogfight 05, I'm using a fresh plane,close rad,prop at 95% mixs is at 100% as low as it goes,
level flight at S/L.i get 580km (350Mph) is that close enough? and i've tryed it at 6000m with the supercharger i cant get there.(416MPH) What am i doing wrong? could it be the speed bar not given me the right reading? or is the PF corsair speed modeled after the f4u-1? (not acording to the veiw objects in game.)

please don't flame me and no i'm not fishing i need advice



Contribution of Articles to the Aviation History On-Line Museum are courtesy of Aviation Heritage.

A production contract was awarded to Chance Vought in June 1941 and the first production machine flew in June 1942 with a top speed of 415 mph, a sea-level climb rate of 3,120 ft/min and a service ceiling of 37,000 ft. The first carrier trials were carried out in September 1942 aboard the USS Sangamon.

Despite the hundreds of detailed demands contained in the specifications for the new fighter plane, the major design objective was speed - - and more speed; everything else was secondary. From the start of its design in June 1938 the paramount demand on the Corsair was that it be the fastest fighter ever built and this goal was achieved when the new plane became the first in the world to exceed 400 mph in level flight with full military equipment.

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http://www.ww2aircraft.net/?p=info&airinfo=131
Manufacture Vought
Model F4U-1D
Type Fighter
Power Plant Pratt & Whitney 18 cylinder, twin row air cooled radial, R-2800-8 - - 2,000 HP
Performance

Maximum speed :: 417 mph :: 671.10 km/hr

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http://www.acepilots.com/planes/f4u_corsair.html
Tommy Blackburn (CO of the Jolly Rogers) on the F4U Corsair:

Aircraft model and type Production Speed Armament Engine and Performance Weight Other
Mfr. - Model variant Svc. Del. # Built MPH .50
caliber 20mm Bomb HP Engine(Mfr/Number) Climb ft/min Ceil FT Rng Mi. Ext Rng Empty Wt. lb. Loaded Wt. Max.Wt. lb. Crew # Eng. Oth Name Modif.
Chance-Vought
F4U Corsair
Corsair Aces of WW2


F4U-1 Jul-42 2,469 392
F4U-1A Apr-43 3,861 417
F4U-1C Apr-45 200 417
F4U-1D Mar-44 2,800 425
F4U-2 Jan-44 32 417
F4U-4 Oct-44 2,360 448
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---Good reading---
(http://www.guykemper.com/f4u.html)
f4u-1
Pratt & Whitney R-2800-8 Double Wasp 18 cylinder radial air-cooled engine with two-stage supercharger
HP 2,000 for take-off, 1,675 up to 5,500 ft
Length 32 ft 9 1/2 in
Height 15 ft
Wingspan 40 ft 11 3/4 in
Weight (empty) 8,873 lbs
Weight (loaded) 11,880 lbs
Range 1,596 miles at 179 mph
Ceiling 37,000 ft
Speed (sea level) 319 mph
Speed (24,000 ft) 390 mph
Climb 10,000 ft in 5.1 min
20,000 ft in 10.7 min
Armament Six .50-in Colt Browning M-2 machine guns in wings with 391 rounds per gun

Herr_Kessler
11-29-2004, 05:45 PM
Here's a brief answer, but often seems to be the problem when people are complaining about not being able to reach some max speed - the speed bar is IAS, not TAS. To see TAS switch to the no cockpit view, as the speed shown on the AS indicator in no cockpit view is TAS. Hope that helps...

Kess

IV_JG51_Razor
11-29-2004, 06:08 PM
Also, you mentioned the supercharger. Which stage were you in? It has a second stage (for a total of three positions).

VW-IceFire
11-29-2004, 06:16 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Herr_Kessler:
Here's a brief answer, but often seems to be the problem when people are complaining about not being able to reach some max speed - the speed bar is IAS, not TAS. To see TAS switch to the no cockpit view, as the speed shown on the AS indicator in no cockpit view is TAS. Hope that helps...

Kess <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Was just going to say that. Most people aren't aware of, and I sure wasn't, that there is such a thing between IAS and TAS. I had no concept of it since its never mentioned in general books about these things (just absolute TAS speeds and nothing about the IAS). Turns out its key to learning how fast your plane is actually going at high altitude.

Voidable
11-29-2004, 08:26 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by IV_JG51_Razor:
Also, you mentioned the supercharger. Which stage were you in? It has a second stage (for a total of three positions). <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif rgr tryed all 3

Voidable
11-29-2004, 08:29 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Herr_Kessler:
Here's a brief answer, but often seems to be the problem when people are complaining about not being able to reach some max speed - the speed bar is IAS, not TAS. To see TAS switch to the no cockpit view, as the speed shown on the AS indicator in no cockpit view is TAS. Hope that helps...

Kess <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Was just going to say that. Most people aren't aware of, and I sure wasn't, that there is such a thing between IAS and TAS. I had no concept of it since its never mentioned in general books about these things (just absolute TAS speeds and nothing about the IAS). Turns out its key to learning how fast your plane is actually going at high altitude.[/QUOTE

rgr TAS= true air speed rgr i also tryed it with no cockpit view still can not reach the speed not even close really http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

VW-IceFire
11-29-2004, 08:50 PM
I got about 660 KPH TAS at 6500 meters. Stage 3 supercharger, throttle at 110%, mix at 100%, fuel at 100%, Crimea map, 12:00 hours.

Performance may vary depending on map BTW.

Voidable
11-29-2004, 10:25 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
I got about 660 KPH TAS at 6500 meters. Stage 3 supercharger, throttle at 110%, mix at 100%, fuel at 100%, Crimea map, 12:00 hours.

Performance may vary depending on map BTW. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
rgr ,is that online or single player map?...

Voidable
11-29-2004, 10:32 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
I got about 660 KPH TAS at 6500 meters. Stage 3 supercharger, throttle at 110%, mix at 100%, fuel at 100%, Crimea map, 12:00 hours.

Performance may vary depending on map BTW. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>http://www.fiftyfourth.com/imagebank/TEST.jpg

So here 784KPH TAS is about 410mph? i could only acheve this speed in a dive

Hoarmurath
11-30-2004, 12:10 AM
410 mph is around 660 kph, the difference is that this speed of 660 kph is your indicated airspeed. The 784 kph is your true airspeed.

TheGozr
11-30-2004, 01:19 AM
6500 m at 100 % mix?
Are you trying to cool off the engine? isn't it suppose to be at list 80% for better speed /.

JG53Frankyboy
11-30-2004, 03:22 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TheGozr:
6500 m at 100 % mix?
Are you trying to cool off the engine? isn't it suppose to be at list 80% for better speed /. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

you can reduce your mixture in a Corsair to 80% ?
wow http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

no, seriously, it has with 3.02b only 100% (~automatik) and 120%

TheGozr
11-30-2004, 03:31 AM
hahaha didn't notice that it was on a Corsair but how do you know that it is 100% at that altitudes?
Isn't it automatic? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Voidable
11-30-2004, 11:08 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif ok..i got it speedbar EAS was confusing
me http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif