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Beaufort-RAF
08-21-2007, 07:13 PM
The first real action for the RAF Typhoon, last Friday.

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/3528/typhoon1cp4.jpg
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/1955/typhoon2as9.jpg

Beaufort-RAF
08-21-2007, 07:13 PM
The first real action for the RAF Typhoon, last Friday.

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/3528/typhoon1cp4.jpg
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/1955/typhoon2as9.jpg

Metatron_123
08-21-2007, 07:26 PM
Fighters come and go , but the Bear remains! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

leitmotiv
08-21-2007, 09:15 PM
The Russian bear can strut now, but when Europe soon has alternative sources for natural gas, the money will run out for posturing as a superpower.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/russia/article/0,,2153669,00.html

Skarphol
08-22-2007, 12:52 AM
Well, they will at least have fuel for their Bears in the foreseeable future.

Wich RAF squadron is that Typhoon from?

Skarphol

Whirlin_merlin
08-22-2007, 01:41 AM
There's something familiar in Putin's style.

I'll make us great again, after the injustice of the past etc.

He's even threatening the Czechs.

Xiolablu3
08-22-2007, 02:48 AM
Arent RUssian CHinese and Indian Economies growing at an incredible rate right now?


I thought that they had far exceeded the Wests growth and the future looked very rosy for them?

stanford-ukded
08-22-2007, 02:53 AM
It's all based on natural gas / oil / energy. Hence the new Artic claims etc. The west has always enjoyed sustainable growth, not wholly dependent on oil/gas exports. By the next century the planet will be a completely different place.

Skarphol
08-22-2007, 03:52 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stanford-ukded:
The west has always enjoyed sustainable growth, not wholly dependent on oil/gas exports. By the next century the planet will be a completely different place. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

With the exceptioin of Norway, that is.
We are totally dependent on our export of oil and natural gas. In many aspects, Norway can be considered a very rich underdeveloped country wich is basing it's economy on export of raw materials such as crude oil, gas, aluminium and fish, instead of refining the raw materials to better products.

Skarphol

MEGILE
08-22-2007, 04:28 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Anyone got the story?

ploughman
08-22-2007, 05:36 AM
Radar Operator: "WTF? Tups inbound!"
&lt;klaxon sounds&gt;
Flt. Lt. Bigglesworth: "Borscht bomber over the briny boys, light 'em up!"
Bear- front left seat: "La, la, la, la OMGWTF!"
Flt. Lt. Bigglesworth: "Huzzah! Ooh you is so big and shiny! Lock on, lock off, lock on, lock off. Oh, kodak moment."

Or clickety Twhines on-line (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article2302783.ece)

Irish_Rogues
08-22-2007, 05:53 AM
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1280809,00.html

WN_Barbarossa
08-22-2007, 06:23 AM
Why does the Bear still (bear http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif ) have soviet markings? (Red Star)

Got money for fuel to fly around, but can't afford some paint?

Capt.LoneRanger
08-22-2007, 06:30 AM
D@mned screenshot-cheaters! I bet the Typhoon-Pilot was kicked after that.

ploughman
08-22-2007, 06:30 AM
It's still their insignia/roundel. Even though it's now the Russian Air Force rather than the Red Air Force.

MEGILE
08-22-2007, 06:33 AM
I'll seriously start to be concerned when those Bears bring Flankers with them, to dance with the Typhoons.

Skarphol
08-22-2007, 06:44 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Megile:
I'll seriously start to be concerned when those Bears bring Flankers with them, to dance with the Typhoons. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You mean like this?
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y1/Skarphol/TB3-I-16.jpg

I'm just waiting for the photoshoppers to arrive...

Skarphol

mortoma
08-22-2007, 06:49 AM
Big problem is Putin favors returning to the former soviet style communist dictatorship. I always felt deep down that the so called "fall of communism" was just a ploy to get us to let our guard down.

If the old soviet system returns we are in big trouble. Despite the fact that most of the satellite communist countries probably would not rejoin. We now have a strong China and a lot of leftist strength in South America that would make up for the lost satellite communist countries.

x6BL_Brando
08-22-2007, 06:52 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">You mean like this? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y1/Skarphol/TB3-I-16.jpg

We'll be waiting a long time I think http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

B

mortoma
08-22-2007, 06:55 AM
By the way, don't know much about the Typhoon. Is it the same thing as the Eurofighter?? Is it a purely British development, or it it one of those joint, multi-national ventures? I must confess, I really don't pay much attention to Europe or Britain as far as military aircraft in modern times.

ploughman
08-22-2007, 07:21 AM
Yes Morts, the Eurofighter is the Typhoon and is the much delayed product of a multinational consortium comprising the UK, Spain, Germany and Italy and was developed from the British Aerospace EAP.

It's a very good aircraft and has some stealth features but isn't a 5th generation aircraft in the same way the F-22 is or the F-35 will be. It's the 'best of the rest,' so to speak but much of its avionics suite and systems are cutting edge. It isn't equipped with an AESA radar as yet, but will be in the future. Additionally, the current production run (tranche 1) is optimised for air superiority. Future production runs, trances 2 & 3 will give the aircraft a 'swing role.'

Having said that RAF Typhoons are being independently (of the multi-national baseline aircraft) prepared to carry a broad range of UK air to ground weapons in anticipation of its deployment to Afghanistan next year.

Divine-Wind
08-22-2007, 09:15 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ploughman:
Radar Operator: "WTF? Tups inbound!"
&lt;klaxon sounds&gt;
Flt. Lt. Bigglesworth: "Borscht bomber over the briny boys, light 'em up!"
Bear- front left seat: "La, la, la, la OMGWTF!"
Flt. Lt. Bigglesworth: "Huzzah! Ooh you is so big and shiny! Lock on, lock off, lock on, lock off. Oh, kodak moment."

Or clickety Twhines on-line (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article2302783.ece) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif I LoL'd.

Viking-S
08-22-2007, 03:52 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Megile:
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Anyone got the story? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Da!

http://english.pravda.ru/news/world/22-08-2007/96204-millitary_plane-0

WarWolfe_1
08-22-2007, 04:00 PM
Saber rattling again are they? Don't they have home grown terroist to deal with?

Instead they are spending their new found oil money on doing outdated scare tactics http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Viking-S
08-22-2007, 04:12 PM
Not really! History clearly shows that if you have energy recourses you must be prepared to defend them or else you will lose them.

Viking

VF-17_Jolly
08-22-2007, 04:26 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Metatron_123:
Fighters come and go , but the Bear remains! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/POLISH_PILOT/lightningbearhiresjm4.jpg

Ah The good old days

Viper2005_
08-22-2007, 05:49 PM
Ah... the Frightning. What a beautiful piece of sheer brute force! Definitely my favourite fighter of all time. Shame we don't make them on our own anymore...

One day I'm going to spend a ridiculous amount of money in South Africa... until then she remains an unconsummated crush... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif

I've always though it a crying shame that there isn't an IL2 equivalent for a Cuban missile crisis turned WWIII scenario, since that would combine scary performance with marginal handling and the transition between guns & missiles. Similar in many ways to 1960s F1 (which seemed to make for a good PC game if memory serves...).

BillyTheKid_22
08-22-2007, 06:28 PM
http://www.midwaysailor.com/eddiemiller/eddiemiller-047b.jpg



http://www.absquad.net/images/CFS2_Tupolev_AB_Tu_95_Bear.jpg



http://varifrank.com/images/bear_watching.jpg

jimDG
08-22-2007, 06:50 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by leitmotiv:
The Russian bear can strut now, but when Europe soon has alternative sources for natural gas, the money will run out for posturing as a superpower.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/russia/article/0,,2153669,00.html </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Couldn't agree more. In fact, there is no need for natural gas, when Canada and Australia have most of the world's uranium.

Otherwise, I don't see the logic of going after Bears for visual ID, when the props give such a distinct radar signature.
All thats needed is a couple of SAM destroyers, to circle the north sea a bit and shoot down any Bear that goes the wrong way.
And if they don't go the wrong way, we wouldn't be seeing any pictures of antiquated bombers in the newspapers, which is Putin's intention and purpose.

Viper2005_
08-22-2007, 08:47 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AS-4

RAF_Loke
08-23-2007, 12:48 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by leitmotiv:
The Russian bear can strut now, but when Europe soon has alternative sources for natural gas, the money will run out for posturing as a superpower.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/russia/article/0,,2153669,00.html </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Why are they then building a huge pipeline for gas going through the Baltic Sea from Russia to Germany. Maybe because they are gonna earn a lot of Euros selling Gas to the European market.

Xiolablu3
08-23-2007, 12:56 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jimDG:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by leitmotiv:
The Russian bear can strut now, but when Europe soon has alternative sources for natural gas, the money will run out for posturing as a superpower.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/russia/article/0,,2153669,00.html </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Couldn't agree more. In fact, there is no need for natural gas, when Canada and Australia have most of the world's uranium.

Otherwise, I don't see the logic of going after Bears for visual ID, when the props give such a distinct radar signature.
All thats needed is a couple of SAM destroyers, to circle the north sea a bit and shoot down any Bear that goes the wrong way.
And if they don't go the wrong way, we wouldn't be seeing any pictures of antiquated bombers in the newspapers, which is Putin's intention and purpose. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think its actually a good test of the pilots response time, and livens things up at the Air force bases. As such they welcome the interceptions and 'escorts'

Its also good to 'show' the bear that it would have no chance to escape if it attempted anything hostile.

RAF_Loke
08-23-2007, 12:59 AM
Oh and then a few other things about the "new Cold War".

Norway has placed Russia back on the list of potential enemies.

And right now Russia, USA, Canada and Denmark are fighting over the rights to the arctic.

I believe that the artic should be made "No mans land" just like the Antarctic.

NAFP_supah
08-23-2007, 01:43 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ploughman:
Yes Morts, the Eurofighter is the Typhoon and is the much delayed product of a multinational consortium comprising the UK, Spain, Germany and Italy and was developed from the British Aerospace EAP.

It's a very good aircraft and has some stealth features but isn't a 5th generation aircraft in the same way the F-22 is or the F-35 will be. It's the 'best of the rest,' so to speak but much of its avionics suite and systems are cutting edge. It isn't equipped with an AESA radar as yet, but will be in the future. Additionally, the current production run (tranche 1) is optimised for air superiority. Future production runs, trances 2 & 3 will give the aircraft a 'swing role.'

Having said that RAF Typhoons are being independently (of the multi-national baseline aircraft) prepared to carry a broad range of UK air to ground weapons in anticipation of its deployment to Afghanistan next year. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

We, the netherlands, are probably buying the JSF ... I have to say looks wise Typhoon beats JSF with ease.

Airmail109
08-23-2007, 01:56 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Viper2005_:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AS-4 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Our type 45s have a radar signature the same as a fishing boat

You think a Bears gonna launch an AS-4 at a fishing boat it may not even be able to pick out against the background of Scottish Litoral zones?

Great thing about the type 45 is it can integrate with the UKs airdefence system....wonder up to Scotland...sit up there with 48 missiles and never have to give away its position by switching on its radar....but instead get a lock by linking to Awacs and ground based radar via datalink

Anyway that huge AS-4 would never get near a type 45 unless something went seriously wrong.