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Dieu_Le_Fera
07-26-2007, 10:04 AM
Hello,

This is my first post so I apologize if my questions seem elementary. First, I would like to know what fighter is good to use to practice turn and burn. Second, what fighter is good to use for boom and zoom? Third, I've been digging through the net for articles on tactics and I keep seeing references to a energy maneuverability diagram. Is there one that is made for IL2 1946? This Way I wouldn't have to ask so many questions.

Thanks!

Dieu_Le_Fera
07-26-2007, 10:04 AM
Hello,

This is my first post so I apologize if my questions seem elementary. First, I would like to know what fighter is good to use to practice turn and burn. Second, what fighter is good to use for boom and zoom? Third, I've been digging through the net for articles on tactics and I keep seeing references to a energy maneuverability diagram. Is there one that is made for IL2 1946? This Way I wouldn't have to ask so many questions.

Thanks!

foxyboy1964
07-26-2007, 11:14 AM
Bi-Planes such as the Soviet I-153 are good for TnB, also the Japanese Zero series. There are others too.

The ZnB type include Focke Wulfs, P-51 and P-47.

In a fight the fastest plane has the advantage. The fastest plane will, generally, not be able to turn as well as a slower plane. However, the slower plane can turn as much as it likes. If it cant catch up with the faster plane then it cant land rounds on it. Thats what ZnB is all about. Zoom in on the slower plane, Boom his a$$, then Zoom away again.

TgD Thunderbolt56
07-26-2007, 11:32 AM
Turn & Burn = Yak3 (much better vis than any bipe and better punch too)

Boom & Zoom = FW190 or P-47D (nothing hits like a FW, nothing dives like a jug)

Also, if you're new and want to learn a good bit by reading, go here: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=400102&f=23110283&m=51910959


TB

Bearcat99
07-26-2007, 11:32 AM
Hit the Nugget's Guide in my sig. Scroll down to Harball's Aircraft viewer and Neural Dream's Guide.. there are other good things there too. AS for reading material.. hit the Essentials thread also linked in my sig. Scroll down to Essential Reading.

TgD Thunderbolt56
07-26-2007, 11:40 AM
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LEBillfish
07-26-2007, 11:56 AM
Try a Ki-61 and do both.....No kidding http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Also, my suggestion is learn how to T&B Z&B planes, and visa versa.....Nothing blows the mind of an opponent when suddenly the supposed poor turner is out turning him, or turner is out zooming keeping him below and low on E http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

jimDG
07-26-2007, 12:08 PM
I-153P, I-16 type 24, Zeros, LA-5/f/FN, La-7 for TnB
FW190s, P-51/Mustang, P-47, il-10 for BnZ.

All in their respective historical time periods, of course. I have not mentioned the Spit for TnB as it can be a bit tricky at extreme turns - has no slats
Il-10 is actually one of the steadiest in a dive of them all, and is one the best armed. Retains energy as well as a FW190.

stalkervision
07-26-2007, 12:08 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dieu_Le_Fera:
Hello,

This is my first post so I apologize if my questions seem elementary. First, I would like to know what fighter is good to use to practice turn and burn. Second, what fighter is good to use for boom and zoom? Third, I've been digging through the net for articles on tactics and I keep seeing references to a energy maneuverability diagram. Is there one that is made for IL2 1946? This Way I wouldn't have to ask so many questions.

well first off ?turn and burn" is shorted to T&B and "boom and zoom" to B&Z .. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

One would be the Zero or spitfire and the B%Z plane would be a P-47 or Mustang or FW-190

the me-109 fits both catagories believe it or not in general..

energy maneuverability means using the planes built up energy from a dive or just its own normal airspeed to make manauvers that a plane low on "E" or energy from either being down on the deck with no room to dive or being low on air speed from manauvering too much and losing airspeed can't do.

altitude or airspeed can be "traded" for "E" but either takes time to build up again...

One word..Don't fly at low speeds "on the deck" you are a sitting duck then.

if you find yourself at low altituded throttle up and regain altitude as soon as is possible. The more altitude the better..

Air to air combat and "e" is a bit like a poker game. One doesn't usually want to bet all his "e" on one hand of cards.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Dieu_Le_Fera
07-26-2007, 09:08 PM
Thank you for the suggestions on the fighters and "Hardball's Aircraft Viewer" was exactly what I was looking for.

"Gory, Gory, What a hell of way to die!"

na85
07-26-2007, 09:22 PM
I would suggest learning TnB with the A6M Zero. It's quite formidable, especially in the early war scenarios.

As for BnZ, try FW190 (A series is less forgiving than D series).