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jayhall0315
06-03-2008, 04:44 AM
Newbie's Guide to IL2 Joystick Setups

Hello IL2 Fans,

When I was a noob, I was never able to locate a decent resource (with up to date photos) that could provide some insight into getting the correct functions in IL2 mapped to the best buttons on my Fighterstick in an ergonomical manner. So I decided to remedy the situation by creating my own guide for newbies.

Here is the link:
http://files.filefront.com/Newbies+Joystickpdf/;10486483;/fileinfo.html

This guide will not suit veterans who already have everything set up to match their exacting tastes, but hopefully it will help out new guys who are a little bit lost. If you are a battle hardened veteran who owns some of this equipment and think that I have omitted something important by accident, please pm me or post here and I will try to keep improving the guide.

Cheers,
Jay

(This guide has now been separated from the Newbie's Guide to IL2 Online Dogfighting to provide for brevity in the former document)

jayhall0315
06-03-2008, 04:44 AM
Newbie's Guide to IL2 Joystick Setups

Hello IL2 Fans,

When I was a noob, I was never able to locate a decent resource (with up to date photos) that could provide some insight into getting the correct functions in IL2 mapped to the best buttons on my Fighterstick in an ergonomical manner. So I decided to remedy the situation by creating my own guide for newbies.

Here is the link:
http://files.filefront.com/Newbies+Joystickpdf/;10486483;/fileinfo.html

This guide will not suit veterans who already have everything set up to match their exacting tastes, but hopefully it will help out new guys who are a little bit lost. If you are a battle hardened veteran who owns some of this equipment and think that I have omitted something important by accident, please pm me or post here and I will try to keep improving the guide.

Cheers,
Jay

(This guide has now been separated from the Newbie's Guide to IL2 Online Dogfighting to provide for brevity in the former document)

Capt.LoneRanger
06-03-2008, 05:19 AM
Odd setup.

The easiest way to adopt for the fixed head in IL2 and the struts blocking visibility in the cockpit is to adjust view by toggling gunsights and increasing or decreasing field of view. This is also pretty vital for identification IMHO, but you mapped ONLY the Field Of View buttons and to pretty unintuitive buttons IMHO.

On the other hand, you rarely push the bomb-release-button and drop tanks more than once, maybe twice on a mission, rockets only barely more often. Yet you mapped it to one of the most easy to reach buttons on the Fighterstick. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

If you go through the length of digging into programming your stick, why not add a few ideas to your Joystick guide. For example: The fueltanks and bombs AFAIK on all aircraft share the same position. That means, you either have bombs with your or tanks. So why not map the two functions to one button, too?

Besides that, you don't seem to talk much when Dogfighting. Other than that, I can't imagine how you want to Fire Weapon 1 the same time you speak on the CH-Fighterstick layout. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif


Don't get me wrong, your idea is great. I just think it could use a bit optimizing.

Oh, and maybe you can check out how many planes actually have individually working magnetos, superchargers and mixturecontrols. Maybe it makes more sense to map them with more important keys like the Map or even things like Onlinescore, Toggle Mirrors or Icons, etc.

jayhall0315
06-03-2008, 05:25 AM
I am too dang gone dumb to speak and fire at the same time ! LOL ! But that is an excellent point ! Very intuitive. Usually if I am in a firing position, I just fire first and speak to others once I have the enemy down.

Great point though,
Jay

Capt.LoneRanger
06-03-2008, 05:35 AM
When I started with the Fighterstick, I had the Pinkie-Button mapped for Teamspeak. Worked quite nice as the little finger is mostly touching it anyway and the other fingers are free to use the other buttons.

In the meanwhile I use that as shift-button, though.
If not pressed, the button you use for Teamspeak fires my MGs (Wpn1), the Trigger both, the MG and Cannons (Wpn1+2).
Pressing the Pinkie as shift and the Trigger fires my rockets, the big red button you use for gears down is my bomb and fuel-tank-release.
Pressed shifted, I bail out. Another vital command, that you should map to your Stick, but in a way you don't press is accidently http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

jayhall0315
06-03-2008, 11:36 PM
Captain,
Yes, your idea of where to map the Teamspeak function is better, I have redone the guide to display this better ergonomic feature. This will allow both firing and talking at the same time. Some of the other changes are more personal preference but I still like the advice. I personally have a hat switch mapped to activate the Map, but I know many others like to only have essential mechanical features mapped to their HOTAS and leave items like the Map for the keyboard.

Thanks,
Jay

na85
06-04-2008, 12:13 AM
You have bailout on your stick? What on earth for?

I left mine as CTRL E. It takes maybe a second more for me to hit CTRL E than it would for me to use a joystick button that could otherwise be used for something that you adjust frequently during flight (rads, prop pitch, mixture, supercharger, etc etc etc)

scaredycat1
06-04-2008, 12:28 AM
Nice job on your guides! Maybee include this ( http://mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&file=details&id=1021 )in your joystick guide. It really helps for flying twitchy a/c like the Mustangs.. or any other ones if you are a hamfister like me.

jayhall0315
06-04-2008, 02:32 AM
Yeah, I dont have bail out mapped to my HOTAS as I am sure I am never going to need that http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Scaredycat, you are right, that IL2 Joycontrol addition is sweet (I have already tested it). Eventually, I plan to really expand the guide to encompass fully setting up and configuring all major joystick brands with a great deal of additional info. But for now, with the limited time I have, I wanted to put out the all important function/control maps first for the CH HOTAS and X-52 HOTAS.

I will keep expanding it soon.

Jay

jayhall0315
06-06-2008, 09:25 AM
Changed a few sections and added the semi-essential buttons that will help out alot in combat.

Jay