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Skyraider3D
08-10-2006, 11:45 AM
I have totally had it with my X52 joystick. It simply won't work for IL-2/FB/PF http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif It's junk. Stall mania. No matter what I do to the spring or how many times I tweak the input curves.

I want my Sidewinder Precision Pro Force Feedback 2 to work again, but unfortunately its rudder is broken. For some reason it jerks to full right rudder instead of going gradually.

Does anybody know if there's a way to fix this?

Many thanks in advance!

Skyraider3D
08-10-2006, 11:45 AM
I have totally had it with my X52 joystick. It simply won't work for IL-2/FB/PF http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif It's junk. Stall mania. No matter what I do to the spring or how many times I tweak the input curves.

I want my Sidewinder Precision Pro Force Feedback 2 to work again, but unfortunately its rudder is broken. For some reason it jerks to full right rudder instead of going gradually.

Does anybody know if there's a way to fix this?

Many thanks in advance!

Dexmeister
08-10-2006, 12:34 PM
One time I had this amazing Logitech wireless stick. Amazing until it started acting up that is... I tried to fix it, had minor successes, but it would keep messing up again in short order. Finally, to ensure that I fixed it once and for all, I ripped the stick right off the base, then chucked the whole thing in the garbage can. Worked like a charm, it hasn't caused me any grief since http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

bolox00
08-10-2006, 01:22 PM
normally i'd suggest cleaning the pots for a stick that exhibits this kind of behaviour- but sidewinders use optical sensors- you might just have dust/dirt in it-maybe a can of compressed air might help to blow the rubbish out- maybe not- and you have to open it up to find the sensor.

i presume you've tried recalibrating?

now if your sidewinder works fine on aileron/elevators and you have a 'junk' x52, you could try making a set of rudder pedals from it??
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/49310655/m/3821084134
might give you some ideas?

Skyraider3D
08-10-2006, 01:59 PM
Dexmeister, I'm a hard learner. I keep chucking it in the bin and getting it back on my desk again (it's an expensive piece of junk afterall) - only to cause me more grief http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Bolox, I have considered that option.

I was also onder the impression the Sidewinder was optical and didn't dare opening it (big electro shock warning signs and all). I did finally decide to take my chances tonight and opened it (I didn't get any shock, by the way http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif) and found... nothing. Then I opened up the grip (why didn't I think of this earlier) and nothing much optical there really, except the FFB detection! Sure enough there was just a darn loose cable which came off altogether when the grip fell apart. Now it won't register a rudder at all - in other words that bloody little pink cable, was indeed the culprit. I'm gonna try and fix it and with some luck it'll work again http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif



PS. If anybody has a good set of X52 input curves, please do share and I'll give that expensive piece of junk another, final go.

FoolTrottel
08-10-2006, 02:58 PM
It's rudder is broken?

Great! Now's the time to get yerself some pedals!

Like bolox00 suggested, go for it!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/fooltrottel/PedalsV2-01.jpg

Skyraider3D
08-10-2006, 03:44 PM
My wife would never agree http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

FoolTrottel
08-10-2006, 03:50 PM
Mine didn't either, so what? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Skyraider3D
08-10-2006, 04:06 PM
I value my life... and my PC! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif

Anyway, repair work has been carried out as we speak and things are looking up... Just waiting for the "glue" (acrylic paint actually, due to lack of glue!) to dry... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif



Scrap acrylic paint... too brittle... it just popped loose again. Where's a soldering iron when you need one... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Zeus-cat
08-10-2006, 09:17 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I want my Sidewinder Precision Pro Force Feedback 2 to work again, but unfortunately its rudder is broken. <span class="ev_code_RED">For some reason it jerks to full right rudder instead of going gradually.</span> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's what happens when you buy the D!ck Cheney signature series joystick!
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

gdfo
08-11-2006, 04:39 AM
OK. There is a Saitek support forum on the official Saitek site that can help you determine if you X-52 is defective and if it is they might offer to replace it. They did for me.
Also there is a utility called IL-2Sticks and it can help you set the sliders to get better control of the stick. You can even set the sensitivity of TRIM if you have it assigned to the throttle slider of wheel.

The MS stick can be repaired as I had done it to my old sidewinder PP (not FF. You might need a low heat soldering stick and a very steady hand.
First go to the Saitek forums and post a question.

Skyraider3D
08-11-2006, 06:55 AM
LOL Zeus-cat http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


gdfo, my X52 is not defective, it's just a bad joystick! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I've seen other people with X52 exhibiting similar flight behaviour to my own. I.e. stalling, spinning, wobbling through the sky like being drunk. Its input is just very... sloppy I'd say.

The MS stick is great and I actually managed to repair the wire by heating a paperclip over a lighter and pushing the wires into the solder. Drop of my wife's nail polish varnish is keeping it in place now (no soldering iron or superglue at hand!). Hope it'll hold! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

leitmotiv
08-11-2006, 07:29 AM
Skyraider3D, I thought my Logitech stick had gone amok, but all I needed to do was to use this which got it back to 100% immediately. Unfortunately, this cure is not well known.

http://tinyurl.com/dm9jk

bolox00
08-11-2006, 09:19 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by leitmotiv:
Skyraider3D, I thought my Logitech stick had gone amok, but all I needed to do was to use this which got it back to 100% immediately. Unfortunately, this cure is not well known.

http://tinyurl.com/dm9jk </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

quite handy isn't it-just beware as it clears calib info for all gaming devices.



Skyraider3D although glue might work at least temporarily i'd recommend soldering it for longevity- borrow a soldering iron (or even buy one -if you can get it past 'higher authority' http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif)

glad its working,happy flying.

AH_BlueKestral
08-12-2006, 01:24 AM
Skyraider3D
Have you uninstalled all previous configurations from you previous stick? I have squadron mates who had the same problem. After they cleared out the old configurations and installed the new one things worked out better.
You also have to look at what you are trying to fly as well. Some planes are not as forgiving and stalls seem like the norm. Ie. P-51 series. In Il2 sicks look at your settings for you elevator pitch. Do you have a trim setting set? Post the same question at the community Help section along with your settings.
Every body flies differently so I would start there. In this game you can't always turn on a dime like everbody else without practice and adjusting your inputs. Before you get rid of your X52 try some community profiles. I believe Tully has a X52 Profile link at the bottom of his sig. Check out Bearcats essential thread as well. Lots of good links like airwarfare ect. Guides tweaks ect can be found there. I'm not very techical minded, however there is a solution if it's only stalls that are giving you the problem.

AH_BlueKestral
08-12-2006, 01:40 AM
S!
Many people may laugh at my settings, however I have a X52 as well. This will not make you an ace by any means.Before you try this
copy and paste your profile to a safe place.

[rts_joystick]
X=0 1 4 9 16 25 36 49 64 81 100 0
Y=0 1 4 9 16 25 36 49 64 81 100 0
Z=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100
RZ=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 0
FF=0
U=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 0
V=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 0
1X=0 30 45 55 65 73 78 83 84 86 90 0
1Y=0 21 24 28 31 34 37 40 44 47 50 0
1RZ=0 40 55 65 70 84 88 93 94 95 96 0
1U=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0
1V=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0
1X1=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0
1Y1=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0
1RZ1=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0
1U1=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0
1V1=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0
1Z=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0
1RX=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0
1RY=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0
1Z1=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0

Skyraider3D
08-12-2006, 09:06 AM
Thanks for the tips, guys. My repair is holding though and I am flying with the Sidewinder again (and X52 throttle).

On one of the first flights in the Fw 190 A-4 I got five kills against La-5s, followed by numerous kills against Spit IXs with the A-8 on the next map. I am a happy puppy again! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif