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skwalljrunn
07-14-2004, 10:54 PM
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Looking at Pacific Fighters, I saw an aircraft carrier, the USS Lexington. The Lex was sunk at the Battle of the Coral Sea. Is there an Essex class carrier in PF? From what I saw in the screenshots, all those late model Hellcats, Corsairs, Avengers with the late style all blue paint jobs flew off the Essex class carriers, NOT from the Lex. I hope there are Essex carriers in PF, they are my favorite and would be more accurate in PF.

skwalljrunn
07-14-2004, 10:54 PM
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Looking at Pacific Fighters, I saw an aircraft carrier, the USS Lexington. The Lex was sunk at the Battle of the Coral Sea. Is there an Essex class carrier in PF? From what I saw in the screenshots, all those late model Hellcats, Corsairs, Avengers with the late style all blue paint jobs flew off the Essex class carriers, NOT from the Lex. I hope there are Essex carriers in PF, they are my favorite and would be more accurate in PF.

owlwatcher
07-14-2004, 11:30 PM
Lets hope
Just have to wait & see.

Fliger747
07-15-2004, 05:27 AM
The Essex class would be a logical choice, as it was a large class which could have one basic model represent a large number of ships. There were "short" and "long" hulled Essex's and the "paint jobs" varied from ship to ship, but much of the work of development would be the same.

tfu_iain1
07-15-2004, 09:30 AM
hey, if they make it skinable the community could take care of extra paint schemes = extra carriers

Latico
07-15-2004, 11:09 AM
The sister ship of Lexington (CV-2) was the Saratoga CV3 and it made it through the war. Although it spent much of the war patroling/training pilots near the Hawaiian Islnds, it did get into the action with Enterprise CV6 when the 2 received NAG (Night Air groups) and were assigned to TF during the Iwo Jima campaign.

I'm also eager to see the Yorktown Class carriers - Yorktown CV5, Enterprise CV6 and Hornet CV8. Though we lost the Yorktown and Hornet, the Enterprise went on to survive the war and become the most decorated war ship of the entire war. It would be a travisty not to include this class.

The Corsiars did fly primarily from the decks of Essex class carriers, but for a short spell 4 radar equiped F4U's were attached to the Enterprise from another AG. Probably because their home carrier may have had to go in for repairs and it's AG was temperally dispersed among other carriers or land bases until it could return to service.

VW-IceFire
07-15-2004, 03:06 PM
Wasn't there something like 16 Essex class carriers? I would be mighty surprised not to have the Essex class, considering how many there were and how mnay types were operated from their decks.

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Gibbage1
07-15-2004, 03:19 PM
CArriers take a LOT of time for us to model. A LOT!!!! Im afraid we wont see many differant carriers. But these are just my asumptions. Im pritty much out-of-the-loop with PF. But I do agree, having just the Sara and Lex for US is rather dumb. Need at least a Yorktown or Essex.

Latico
07-15-2004, 04:17 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
Wasn't there something like 16 Essex class carriers? I would be mighty surprised not to have the Essex class, considering how many there were and how mnay types were operated from their decks.

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Only about half of the Essex Class carriers were finished in time to participate in the war.

Fennec_P
07-15-2004, 06:48 PM
I believe that Luthier has publically stated there will be 7 different carrier classes, from various nations.

owlwatcher
07-15-2004, 07:22 PM
Something like 27 Essx class carriers were built.
The Entrprize ended up in the end being a Fighter bound CV with night fighter units on board. Losing its attack status. There were some TBF but these were planes for eletroic jamming and such.

tfu_iain1
07-16-2004, 01:49 PM
it makes sense to have at least one essex in the game, as it could be doubled up to make however many are needed. hell it probably saves a lot of effort in some ways

Latico
07-16-2004, 04:18 PM
Most likely they Dev's will only model one ship per class and then mnake copies under diferent names.

Such as;

1 Lex Class for Lexington CV2 and Saratoga CV3
1 Yorktown Clas for Yorktown CV5, Enterprise CV6, and Hornet CV8
1 Essex Class for Essex CV9, Yorktown CV10, etc.

I believe you can get pairs from many of the IJN carrier classes too.

And at least 2 British carriers from one class.

Cess_Wizard
07-17-2004, 03:45 PM
Not being very good on Japanese carrier recognition which ones have been shown in the updates?

Waldo.Pepper
07-17-2004, 03:52 PM
If I put all the carriers that we may get in the game end to end then maybe, just maybe the deck will be long enough to come to a stop. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

VW-IceFire
07-17-2004, 04:51 PM
Certainly with the ammount of time needed to get a carrier done, they'd make sure they had some of the major ones such as the Essex class since they can be made to represent a large number of carriers.

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Gunny124
07-17-2004, 06:10 PM
Of the thirty or so Essex class carriers that were started, about 24 were finished. Of those, only 4 or 5 were completed too late to have joined hostilities.

SkyChimp
07-17-2004, 06:22 PM
USS Saratoga was heavily engaged during the support of the invasion of Tulagi and Guadalcanal on August 7 1942.

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owlwatcher
07-17-2004, 08:53 PM
I want the USS BunkerHill

My father served on her.

|CoB|_Spectre
07-18-2004, 06:00 AM
Keep in mind, there have been five ships, two of them aircraft carriers, designated USS Lexington...CV-2 (sunk at Battle of the Coral Sea, awarded 2 Battle Stars) and CV-16. CV-16 was commissioned in Feb. 1943 and served until March 1947 (later recommissioned) during which time she received the Presidential Unit Citation and 11 Battle Stars for service in WWII. CV-16 was originally intended to be christened USS Cabot, but the generally held story is that Japanese propagandist Tokyo Rose had reported the Lexington sunk several times and the shipyard workers wanted another ship named Lexington to add to the confusion, so the name was changed. Tokyo Rose referred to the ship crew members reverently called the "Lady Lex" as the "Blue Ghost" because a carrier "Lexington" kept reappearing in battles. Of 26 Essex class carriers, 14 saw action.

Here are some links that outline her history and involvement in WWII action:

http://www.usslexingtoncv16.org/
http://navysite.de/cv/cv16.htm
http://www.ehistory.com/wwii/USNCV3.cfm

Sakai9745
07-18-2004, 11:54 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Cess_Wizard:
Not being very good on Japanese carrier recognition which ones have been shown in the updates?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I believe it is the Akagi or Kaga. Both were built on battlecruiser hulls, and the one in the screenshot definitely has the basic look of it.

As for what US carriers we get, if the dev screenshots are an indication, then Yorktown Class has at least been toyed with development-wise. I am referring to the update dated 5/21/2004 - that sure isn't a Lexington Class there.

Al - SF, Calif

"Defense Dept regrets to inform you that your sons are dead cause they were stupid."

Latico
07-18-2004, 12:25 PM
Sakai wrote:
"As for what US carriers we get, if the dev screenshots are an indication, then Yorktown Class has at least been toyed with development-wise. I am referring to the update dated 5/21/2004 - that sure isn't a Lexington Class there."

Yes, it is the Lexington Class. So far they have not shown us anything that resembles a Yorktown or Essex Class carrier. Unlike the Lexington Class, the Yorktowns and Essex Class carriers had open bows, meaning that the hull did not come all the way up to the flight decks. In fact the forward most part of the bow extended past the forward edge of the flight deck. And, there were AA batteries installed in this area as well as on the stern.

Hmmm...... I wonder if the developers will program these gun implacements to cease fire while you launch during an attack. If not, we could get shot down as we clear the flight deck by friendly fire.

Sakai9745
07-18-2004, 01:20 PM
Ah... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif Very right, Latico-san. Thanks for correcting my misinformed-self. Here, allow me:

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In the waning rays of the sunlight, I saw what I wanted to see. Must be coming down with "Big E-itis". Oh, how I want the Enterprise to make the cut.

And for my next trick, I shall attempt to pull my head out of my a**! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/34.gif

Cheers,

Al - SF, Calif

"Defense Dept regrets to inform you that your sons are dead cause they were stupid."

Latico
07-18-2004, 04:16 PM
Don't be so hard on yourself, Sakai. I have yet to familiarize myself with the IJN carriers.

And I too am looking forward to seeing the CV-6 USS Enterprise. Most decorated war ship of WWII, and the only Naval vessel (outside of HMS vessels) to receive the RN's most prestigious award, the Admiralties Penant.

SkyChimp
07-18-2004, 06:17 PM
Here is a good sight on all nation's WWII carrier:


http://www.voodoo.cz/ww2car/

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Latico
07-18-2004, 07:28 PM
Another good site is this one.

Hazegray and underway (http://www.hazegray.org)

Includes Carriers, BB's, DD's, Ca's, of the world. From USS Constitutuion to modern day war ships.