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thewoo31255
07-25-2011, 04:05 PM
Guys I recently bought the blu ray version of the Battle of Britain with Michael Caine and the rest of those all time great British actors. What an exceptional movie. I saw it as a kid and read about the making of the movie. The German aircraft were borrowed from some South American countries and repainted. In a time when a lot of movies used cessnas and p51's as me 109's it was outstanding. Today of course with computer gen planes it can be replicated but that movie historically and graphically might just be the best aviation films ever. What a nice companion to your COD sim

thewoo31255
07-25-2011, 04:05 PM
Guys I recently bought the blu ray version of the Battle of Britain with Michael Caine and the rest of those all time great British actors. What an exceptional movie. I saw it as a kid and read about the making of the movie. The German aircraft were borrowed from some South American countries and repainted. In a time when a lot of movies used cessnas and p51's as me 109's it was outstanding. Today of course with computer gen planes it can be replicated but that movie historically and graphically might just be the best aviation films ever. What a nice companion to your COD sim

danjama
07-25-2011, 04:58 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by thewoo31255:
Guys I recently bought the blu ray version of the Battle of Britain with Michael Caine and the rest of those all time great British actors. What an exceptional movie. I saw it as a kid and read about the making of the movie. The German aircraft were borrowed from some South American countries and repainted. In a time when a lot of movies used cessnas and p51's as me 109's it was outstanding. Today of course with computer gen planes it can be replicated but that movie historically and graphically might just be the best aviation films ever. What a nice companion to your COD sim </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I bought the BR release too, the extras are fantastic!

You're right, it's a one of a kind movie. The best, especially considering when it was made.

hsj45
07-25-2011, 05:17 PM
Yup great movie http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

thewoo31255
07-25-2011, 07:14 PM
did you notice a very young Ian McShane

Rjel
07-25-2011, 07:32 PM
Ok movie. Horrible special effects. The string trailing the crashing He-111 model must really stand out on Blu-Ray. As far as it being a classic aviation movie, I'd rank it right up there with AIRPLANE! All together. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

VW-IceFire
07-25-2011, 07:54 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Rjel:
Ok movie. Horrible special effects. The string trailing the crashing He-111 model must really stand out on Blu-Ray. As far as it being a classic aviation movie, I'd rank it right up there with AIRPLANE! All together. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I thought the string was a snapped control cable...

For 1969 the special effects were pretty decent. It's pre-StarWars when special effects really take that big leap up to another level.

On the whole it's a great movie. It's well grounded in the history of the time. The characters are many but you get a chance to know a little about each of them. The Germans aren't portrayed as "the bad guy" but rather stick to the personalities and documented conversations. Really like this one.

TheCrux
07-25-2011, 08:55 PM
"Don't you yell at me Mister Warrick!!!"

Love the movie. Great narrative with the script on the story of the battle, and all the great sights and sounds of that old iron. It would be great if we could have sort of parallel universe that would permit the same film with modern effects. As things are now, I fear a remake would be a 'Pearl Harbor' type hurl-fest.

Ba5tard5word
07-26-2011, 12:49 AM
Yeah the special effects are pretty horrible but all in all it's probably my favorite aviation war movie, it's done well and it's entertaining, and it does a good job of having a lot of distinct characters without being confusing. ToraX3 is pretty good too.

It is kind of annoying that there were all these great aviation war movies made back in the 60's and 70's when special effects were just awful, then when special effects got better in the 80's and 90's and 00's nobody makes movies like that anymore and if they do they're absolute pablum. I guess you just can't get people to go see an airwar movie anymore.

Bo_Nidle
07-26-2011, 06:16 PM
"Battle of Britain" is one of my all time top ten films. For me it appears to capture the spirit of the period almost perfectly.

Sir Ralph Richardson's superb performance as the British Ambassador to Switzerland really sets the tone of the British attitude of defiance against all odds in his verbal confrontation with the German ambassador Curt Jurgens. "Don't try and dictate to us until you are marching up Whitehall! And even then we won't listen!"

The cast were excellent and to make a similar film today with that amount of star names would be financially impossible.

It has great characters considering the limitations of time available for each one. It is one of the few war films where romance (Plummer and York) doesn't bring the pace of the film to a screeching halt and actually adds greatly to the story.

The live action sequences are outstanding. Okay, the Bf109E's are the Spanish Buchon type with the Merlin engines, as are the He111's but they were the only flyable examples available in any numbers at that time. (One of the Heinkels used in the film is undergoing refurbishment at Duxford at the moment).

The Imperial War Museum at Duxford was the location for much of the filming, albeit prior to it being made into the museum. It is here that Suzannah York and Kenneth Moore have their scenes together. If you go to an air show at Duxford and park on the "Domestic side" of the airfield you can wander across the parade ground where she is told of Plummer being shot down and burned. You can also still see the camouflage painted onto the barrack blocks for the film.

The missing hangar (No3) in the hangar line at Duxford is the one that is blown up during the Adlertag raid on the airfield. It was completely demolished for the film, legend has it without the permission of the Ministry of Defence who owned Duxford at that time.

Of course the special effects are dated when viewed by today's standards, but you have to make allowances for that and not let it detract from enjoying one of the greatest war movies ever made.

Original trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...t=PLE03F55530141FBE5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaX3m7mMmxM&playnext=1&list=PLE03F55530141FBE5)

For me the real Battle of Britain was the finest moment in my nations history and makes me proud to be British. (Unfortunately there is nothing today to evoke the same feelings! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif )

BWaltteri
08-02-2011, 11:02 AM
It is just a great movie, lots of authenticity with no overblown drama or special effects, it could simply be the best air war movie around ever, or maybe Wings (1927) was another.

MB_Avro_UK
08-02-2011, 01:35 PM
Hi all,

From what I've read, the producers made sure that most of the incidents in the film actually happened during the period. And all the Star actors declined a fee.

But because of the bad British weather in the summer of 1969 or 1968 when it was filmed,the whole shoot was transferred to Spain. This caused a massive drain on the budget.

The film suffered from the loss of available money. Was it a profitable film in the end? I think not.

But it is still a classic. I agree with Bo above regarding the Swiss Embassy scene. Two great actors both setting the scene and raising the tension.

It's at 4 minutes into this clip:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...IXcU&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t43w9oFIXcU&feature=related)

Best Regards,
MB_Avro

baronWastelan
08-04-2011, 06:38 PM
Die Deutsche Wochenschau is the best war movie. I will buy it for sure when it is on Blu-ray.

WTE_Galway
08-04-2011, 07:15 PM
Overall a good movie ... best part NO stupid over the top special effects, real footage of real aircraft (though the ju87 were scale models) ... worst part not 100% accurate

A couple of the basic points to look for in BoB as an amateur aircraft spotter ...

- the big one everyone picks ... Hispano 109s powered by Merlins not DB. Give away is the high exhausts on the cowl.
- same deal with the he111's , but less noticed by the punters. The Heinkels are also powered by Merlins not Jumos.
- fictional squadron codes. The codes on the Spits and Hurri's never existed, this was allegedly done to avoid accusations of "favoritism" for any one historical squadron.

By the way, a lot of unused aerial footage from Battle of Britain found its way 30 years later into the awesome Czech made BoB classic "Dark Blue World" .

BWaltteri
08-05-2011, 01:46 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">

- the big one everyone picks ... Hispano 109s powered by Merlins not DB. Give away is the high exhausts on the cowl.
- same deal with the he111's , but less noticed by the punters. The Heinkels are also powered by Merlins not Jumos.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That is simply asking too much, nowhere else you see that many Heinkels, or even 109's with any engine.

Wildnoob
08-05-2011, 02:18 PM
doesn't<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BWaltteri:
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- the big one everyone picks ... Hispano 109s powered by Merlins not DB. Give away is the high exhausts on the cowl.
- same deal with the he111's , but less noticed by the punters. The Heinkels are also powered by Merlins not Jumos.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That is simply asking too much, nowhere else you see that many Heinkels, or even 109's with any engine. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

+1

Btw, BoB and most movies of that time didn't have tracer effects but this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KunAkfNWqyc&feature=related) Japanese WWII propaganda footage has some nice tracer effects.

DrHerb
08-05-2011, 04:10 PM
http://i.imgur.com/BopWv.jpg

arthursmedley
08-05-2011, 05:28 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WTE_Galway:

By the way, a lot of unused aerial footage from Battle of Britain found its way 30 years later into the awesome Czech made BoB classic "Dark Blue World" . </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Never heard of this film before but found this trailer which looks amazing;
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danjama
08-05-2011, 06:25 PM
Now, Dark Blue World is a fine example of modern CGI effects in historical film, and the love story is not too sickening, and in fact, should be expected, as it's a large driving force for the characters.

DuckyFluff
08-07-2011, 04:59 PM
i went to the premier in 1969, the band of the RAF played a few numbers before and after, for the time it was bloody AWESOME,the Star Wars of its day, of course to cinema goers nowadays it seems quite amateur.
Discount the few minor scenes of crap special effects and it is still one of THE BEST WWII air war films of all time.
It certainly captures the raw spirit and down to earth atmosphere of a battle that happened only 29 years previously, and benefited from the actual input of the men that were there, i.e. Galland, Stanford-Tuck, et al http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

arthursmedley
08-08-2011, 01:04 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DuckyFluff:
i went to the premier in 1969, the band of the RAF played a few numbers before and after, for the time it was bloody AWESOME,the Star Wars of its day, of course to cinema goers nowadays it seems quite amateur.
Discount the few minor scenes of crap special effects and it is still one of THE BEST WWII air war films of all time.
It certainly captures the raw spirit and down to earth atmosphere of a battle that happened only 29 years previously, and benefited from the actual input of the men that were there, i.e. Galland, Stanford-Tuck, et al http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

If your interested, from the BBC archives; what happened to some of "the few."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/archive/b...fbritain/11401.shtml (http://www.bbc.co.uk/archive/battleofbritain/11401.shtml)