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FlatSpinMan
04-17-2006, 01:38 AM
EDITED: 21 April 2006

Hello.
Okay, it is currently 4:38pm on April 17th here in Japan. I know it's Easter weekend and aeverything but I'm wondering if ANYBODY outside Russia has the add-on or even know where they can get it?

Regards,
FSM

FlatSpinMan
04-17-2006, 01:38 AM
EDITED: 21 April 2006

Hello.
Okay, it is currently 4:38pm on April 17th here in Japan. I know it's Easter weekend and aeverything but I'm wondering if ANYBODY outside Russia has the add-on or even know where they can get it?

Regards,
FSM

BrewsterPilot
04-17-2006, 01:40 AM
GoGamer.com I think

JG52Uther
04-17-2006, 01:48 AM
I think you are wrong.

BrewsterPilot
04-17-2006, 01:50 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JG52Uther:
I think you are wrong. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Your thinking capacity is larger than mine I think. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Toten_Waffe
04-17-2006, 04:00 AM
Well its now 11am on the 17th of April in the UK,

No news so far on where to purchase the addon on the Pacific-Fighters website, UBI.com or the forums.

My credit card is waiting............ http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

sparty7200
04-17-2006, 04:07 AM
Quiet aint it! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif..i can almost hear the tumble weed blowin thru!

Capt.England
04-17-2006, 04:13 AM
Was it all a April Fools joke, gone wrong?

Feathered_IV
04-17-2006, 04:15 AM
Nothing in Oz either. I went out with a pocket full of cash and did the rounds of the local game pushers during my lunch break, just in case.

Toten_Waffe
04-17-2006, 04:47 AM
Maybe Oleg is still in bed nursing the hangover from hell after last nights Pe-2 release party.

MadBadVlad
04-17-2006, 05:01 AM
Well its about 4pm in Moscow now based on UK time so that must be a hell of a hangover!

Haigotron
04-17-2006, 05:47 AM
Well if it makes anyone feel any better, in the remote city of Montreal Canada - no one knows what a a Pe-2 is....alas...ill be in my refrigerator shipping box cut out version I made using only scissors and 25000 crayons....had to paint it white, a nice camo scheme for the basement...

RxMan
04-17-2006, 06:23 AM
Got a few words from CrazyIvan the other night on HL.
He said things weren't going too well. Something about downloads OK but uploads were hit or miss.
(I couldn't quite decipher what this meant).
edit: I just discovered, he was talking about his ISP, to someone else: just ignored me I guess, np, I'm used to it.
-------------------------------
From what I've garnered this add-on will not be in stores, it'll be a download. I've been searching the games on HL looking for any hint of RUs playing it as they should have gotten it last week. I wasn't able to find any, which really doesn't mean much, except that there wasn't a lot of the add-on being labeled as such and being played on HL at the time I was searching.

Toten_Waffe
04-17-2006, 06:25 AM
In the meantime Im actually running around the garden with my arms out stretched pretending to be a PE-2 while going "neawwwwww" "dakka-dakka" defending the city of Patiograd from the great beast, my neighbours facist invading cat. Its a bank holiday and I have noting else to do.

sparty7200
04-17-2006, 06:51 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Toten_Waffe:
In the meantime Im actually running around the garden with my arms out stretched pretending to be a PE-2 while going "neawwwwww" "dakka-dakka" defending the city of Patiograd from the great beast, my neighbours facist invading cat. Its a bank holiday and I have noting else to do. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

HAHAHA LMAO! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

FlatSpinMan
04-17-2006, 06:56 AM
So, all quiet on the Eastern front, then?
Won't someone from 1C please come along and take our money?

I.JG53_Steuben
04-17-2006, 07:27 AM
http://games.1c.ru/?type=news

Toten_Waffe
04-17-2006, 07:31 AM
!!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

Are you sure...I cannot read a word of russian but when I click the link it goes straight to a download of the .exe (4.05) file......

Is the addon now free??????

I.JG53_Steuben
04-17-2006, 07:34 AM
I dont know

this is what Babelfish says


7.04.2006 | "Pearl Harbor": the server of version 4.05

Firm "yS" declares about the release of the renovation of server to version 4.05 for the game "Pearl Harbor". The new version of server is established above version 4.04 and it makes it possible to use an aircraft P -2 during the multi-user game. To load the server of version 4.05 you can here:
"Pearl Harbor" - server 4.05 (92 mb.)



btw I was born in East Germany! And i had russian in school! Unfortunatly i forgot all the russian words that they teached me http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

So dont worry your not the only one who dont speak russian http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Toten_Waffe
04-17-2006, 07:49 AM
Have you tried downloading it yet Steuben?

Im am reluctant to try it until we hear anything official from the mods.

96mb does seem quite reasonable for this addon size but im not sure what it means when refering to "server"

I.JG53_Steuben
04-17-2006, 07:54 AM
yep seems to me that this the russian dedicated server for the russian Version! so sorry no addon today it seems!

SgtNathan
04-17-2006, 07:56 AM
I would guess its just a server version for admins wishing to updated their server to 4.05

Agamemnon22
04-17-2006, 09:13 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Haigotron:
Well if it makes anyone feel any better, in the remote city of Montreal Canada - no one knows what a a Pe-2 is....alas...ill be in my refrigerator shipping box cut out version I made using only scissors and 25000 crayons....had to paint it white, a nice camo scheme for the basement... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

If it makes you feel better, the cockpit was built in Montreal http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Waiting patiently m'self...

TgD Thunderbolt56
04-17-2006, 09:37 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Agamemnon22:
If it makes you feel better, the cockpit was built in Montreal http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Waiting patiently m'self... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


You should know. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

Lodovik
04-17-2006, 10:20 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Toten_Waffe:
In the meantime Im actually running around the garden with my arms out stretched pretending to be a PE-2 while going "neawwwwww" "dakka-dakka" defending the city of Patiograd from the great beast, my neighbours facist invading cat. Its a bank holiday and I have noting else to do. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Meanwhile in Finland The 6 LP set "The Great Patriotic War" blares original Soviet war propaganda in my stereo. I'm parading back and forth the 15 square foot balcony, now transformed into an ad-hoc frontline airfield.
I'm wearing my leather pilots helm, goggles and a pair of nice cardboard PE-2 wings over my arms, complete with tinfoil covered propellers.
I'm waiting for the call to scramble. And waiting. I shake the wings a little to test how well they lift.
The neighbours continue their chores on the other side of the fence. They are past caring. Long past.

MadBadVlad
04-17-2006, 10:30 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Help the PE-2 fans are going stir crazy http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif we need info. soon!

JG53Harti
04-17-2006, 12:47 PM
http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/sims/boards/bbs/ultimatebb....;t=004438;p=1#000018 (http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/sims/boards/bbs/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=144;t=004438;p=1#00 0018)

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">

Ask Ubi about the Pe-2 release. I have the final English version of this add-on for almost a month now. It was, actually, built BEFORE the Russian one and immidiately submitted to Ubi, offcourse.

I have no idea, what they doing with it for so long...

We are now working on the models for the "46" add-on and 1C does bug-fixing in the IL-10 (4.06).

The release of the server version of the 4.05 was intentionally delayed until now, in order to not split the community into Russian (with 4.05) and the rest of the world (4.04).
But 1C can't delay it forever. Particulary under pressure from the users, who already got the 4.05.

--------------------
_ _ __ _ _

Best regards,


SaQSoN (Vladimir Kochmarsky)


</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

TheGozr
04-17-2006, 12:56 PM
And aftyer they don't want the peoples to get leaks versions or pirated versions... they do everthing to re-inforce the piratage process.

Haigotron
04-17-2006, 01:01 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">If it makes you feel better, the cockpit was built in Montreal

Waiting patiently m'self... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


really? interesting...was it at ubisoft headquarters...they dont let me come to close to their building...ever since...well...b/c i tend to ask questions....so they got a restrained order....10 parsecs ...im in trouble already

and who knew my cardboard pe2 couldnt withstand a catastrophic butt failure?....it has a hole the size of a basketball....it wont fly...again... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Toten_Waffe
04-17-2006, 01:08 PM
So after reading at simHQ that UBI have had it for a while but have done nothing with it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

Im not jumping to conclusions and I assume they their reasons but there is absolutely no mention of it even existing on the UBI website.

C'mon guys, my arms are tired and I have a sore throat from making the engine sounds. The neighbours cat has since shot itself in the shed and now I think I maybe could have done something more productive with my bank holiday.

Copperhead310th
04-17-2006, 01:33 PM
FYI MOST things release on Tuesday here in the US.
that goes for Movies, Games, & Music.
So i wouln't even begin looking for it here untill Tuesday at the earliest.

AWL_Spinner
04-17-2006, 02:03 PM
It is a bank - public - holiday today in France and most of Europe. Which is probably why there's no news from Ubi or anyone else official on this. This was mentioned on the SimHQ thread and seems to be highly likely, tomorrow looks good for a release.

lowfighter
04-17-2006, 02:18 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Lodovik:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Toten_Waffe:
In the meantime Im actually running around the garden with my arms out stretched pretending to be a PE-2 while going "neawwwwww" "dakka-dakka" defending the city of Patiograd from the great beast, my neighbours facist invading cat. Its a bank holiday and I have noting else to do. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Meanwhile in Finland The 6 LP set "The Great Patriotic War" blares original Soviet war propaganda in my stereo. I'm parading back and forth the 15 square foot balcony, now transformed into an ad-hoc frontline airfield.
I'm wearing my leather pilots helm, goggles and a pair of nice cardboard PE-2 wings over my arms, complete with tinfoil covered propellers.
I'm waiting for the call to scramble. And waiting. I shake the wings a little to test how well they lift.
The neighbours continue their chores on the other side of the fence. They are past caring. Long past. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks folks for cheering me up before going to bed! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/touche.gif
Keep up the good fight... I mean humour!

domenlovrec
04-17-2006, 02:21 PM
It was a prank! Happy 17th april! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

GerritJ9
04-17-2006, 02:37 PM
That page, as correctly pointed out, refers to the software needed to run a server. THIS page refers to the Pe-2 add-on as released by 1C: http://games.1c.ru/ph_ipb/
Title is: "Istorii Pikiruyushchego Bombardirovshchika" and was released on Apr. 7th in the FSU.
And you haven't been seeing anybody playing it online, because the server has only just been released for the FSU, plus you can only see it if you are patched up to 4.05 which you can only do if you are running the Rusian version at present.http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

|CoB|_Spectre
04-17-2006, 06:18 PM
I'm surprised at the restraint here. Normally there's an increasingly shrill "where's my so-and-so?" counterpointed by a "It's okay, Oleg, take as long as you need so it'll be the best yet". I commend you for maintaining law and order. I would've expected a higher turnout for this thread, though.

JG52Uther
04-17-2006, 06:25 PM
Well I can wait patiently.I am just a bit surprised that,as this is supposed to be a paid add-on,nobody seems to have clue how we are actually going to pay for it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

J_Weaver
04-17-2006, 06:35 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JG52Uther:
Well I can wait patiently.I am just a bit surprised that,as this is supposed to be a paid add-on,nobody seems to have clue how we are actually going to pay for it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif

Toten_Waffe
04-17-2006, 07:02 PM
Well I waited during the bank holiday and no news so far.....but its not all bad. Im a pikey student and am on my three week easter break from college so I will just wait for tommorow for it instead.....(instead of the course work im supposed to do http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif)

For all those that have to return to work http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif
If it does arrive tommorow I will definitely post how it is.

Im really looking forward to flying the PE-2, hopeflly it will ease the pain of the constant burning engines and smashed gun sites that I normally receive when fighting against them in a 109 or 190 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

badaboom.1
04-17-2006, 07:05 PM
Quick question for those of you who might know......I am interested in getting the new addons.....I would prefer to get cd/dvd version if availible but I see this my take some time.If I do not want to wait for cd/dvd version can I download the pay addon and burn it to a cd?.....I'd realy like to have a back-up,have any of you done this in the past with paid internet downloads?

panzerd18
04-17-2006, 09:09 PM
Maybe Ubisoft do not want to release it to the rest of the world and only release the Russian version?

GerritJ9
04-18-2006, 04:26 AM
Why would they NOT release it, especially after all the advance publicity? If they don't, they lose sales. And be sure that if necessary, we would find a way of getting the Russian versions of the add-ons and installing them instead. The only one to benefit then would be 1C.
Furthermore, future free patches would be out of synch with the Russian versions.

MadBadVlad
04-18-2006, 04:31 AM
While we wait everyone can read the very informative preview by Ian Boys on Sim HQ here http://www.simhq.com/_air6/air_216a.html

Toten_Waffe
04-18-2006, 04:55 AM
So in nearly 40 odd posts now.....have any of the mods been told why UBI will not release this yet even when it seems they have it already?

The complete lack of information is quite odd considering its a reasonably major product for the continuity of the series.

Just an ickle bit of official news would be nice http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

What if I was to try and get a copy released in Russia....would this work with my UK version of the game?

Feathered_IV
04-18-2006, 08:14 AM
A good read that. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

danjama
04-18-2006, 08:26 AM
What a farce...

F19_Orheim
04-18-2006, 08:27 AM
don't know if I dare to post in yet another Pe threadhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif... but "indeed" come in mind...

SeaFireLIV
04-18-2006, 08:29 AM
I think the operative word is: Patience.

MadBadVlad
04-18-2006, 08:32 AM
I think the operative words are: Out of patience

Capt._Tenneal
04-18-2006, 08:38 AM
Or maybe "patients"...as in we're soon to be patients in a sanitarium soon with all this waiting for news. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

crazyivan1970
04-18-2006, 08:45 AM
Folks, April 17th was unconfirmed date - i made it pretty clear. Also i said that when i know something i`ll post right away. I have no info from UBI at the moment. It almost feels like no one is there lol http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

p1ngu666
04-18-2006, 08:53 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by panzerd18:
Maybe Ubisoft do not want to release it to the rest of the world and only release the Russian version? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

1c have the distribution rights for former soviet union, ie russia and a few other areas.

ubi have rights to the rest of the world, hence this debacle...

leitmotiv
04-18-2006, 09:27 AM
Read Ian Boys and am now keener than a knife for the Pe. Roll on release day.

hotspace
04-18-2006, 09:35 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by p1ngu666:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by panzerd18:
Maybe Ubisoft do not want to release it to the rest of the world and only release the Russian version? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

1c have the distribution rights for former soviet union, ie russia and a few other areas.

ubi have rights to the rest of the world, hence this debacle... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

i was hoping with all the mistakes of the past that maybe UBI might of learnt something by now http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Even if today is not the day, some info on when would be nice from 'em http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

F19_Orheim
04-18-2006, 09:55 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by crazyivan1970:
Folks, April 17th was unconfirmed date - i made it pretty clear. Also i said that when i know something i`ll post right away. I have no info from UBI at the moment. It almost feels like no one is there lol http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I do understand it was the "uncomfirmed" date.. it's not as much as it was not released that day mate, but the fact that there is no info whatsoever from UBI. If they are to release a product, one might expect some kind of input from sales?

How much, how, when, i.e how much will it cost, how is it supposed to be distributed etc etc,

crazyivan1970
04-18-2006, 10:00 AM
Orheim, i am in the same boat with you mate. Been trying to get info for a week now with no success. Oleg has no idea when they will release, it is out of his hands... but no responce from UBI officials either. We just have to wait i guess.

JG53Harti
04-18-2006, 10:25 AM
always the same with UBI

csThor
04-18-2006, 10:28 AM
Yeah. When was the last time Ubisoft did actually something right? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

The key phrase here is "Beware of the customers!" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif

crazyivan1970
04-18-2006, 10:30 AM
There is no reason to slam Ubisoft until we know all the facts. Maybe there is a good reason that Pe-2 is delayed. Sooo, lets not jump into conclusions, ok guys?

JG53Harti
04-18-2006, 10:35 AM
You have read the post of SaQSoN?

crazyivan1970
04-18-2006, 10:39 AM
I`v read many of his posts lol, which one http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

JG53Harti
04-18-2006, 10:40 AM
posted in SimHQ

http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/sims/boards/bbs/ultimatebb....;t=004438;p=1#000018 (http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/sims/boards/bbs/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=144;t=004438;p=1#00 0018)

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">

Ask Ubi about the Pe-2 release. I have the final English version of this add-on for almost a month now. It was, actually, built BEFORE the Russian one and immidiately submitted to Ubi, offcourse.

I have no idea, what they doing with it for so long...

We are now working on the models for the "46" add-on and 1C does bug-fixing in the IL-10 (4.06).

The release of the server version of the 4.05 was intentionally delayed until now, in order to not split the community into Russian (with 4.05) and the rest of the world (4.04).
But 1C can't delay it forever. Particulary under pressure from the users, who already got the 4.05.

--------------------
_ _ __ _ _

Best regards,


SaQSoN (Vladimir Kochmarsky)


</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

crazyivan1970
04-18-2006, 10:45 AM
I am aware of that and i do know know when it was submitted Harti http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. It doesnt change the fact that nobody but UBI knows nature of the delay.

csThor
04-18-2006, 10:46 AM
Ivan - I'm not slamming Ubi. I am voicing my opinion based on my experiences since the release of the initial Il-2. Ubisoft's marketing department wouldn't know a good marketing campaign if you'd beat them to death with one. The marketing, the connection with the customer base have pretty much been non-existant since FB came out. And before it was rather so-so.

The current situation just fits precisely into the picture and that is a very sad thing. Obviously Ubisoft is either unaware what a good marketing can do or they're just ignorant of this section of their business. I really hope Oleg goes the same way ED went and finds another way to publish their products http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

JG53Harti
04-18-2006, 10:52 AM
Yesterday the information was written.
I think a month is enough to write at least a news for everyone so that we know that a new product is coming soon ?

aah Thor konntest wieder fixer deinen internen Translator anwerfen http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

SaQSoN
04-18-2006, 10:53 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I really hope Oleg goes the same way ED went and finds another way to publish their products </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I really, really hope, he will not. I wouldn't wish him to become a beggar, like ED.
Please, don't talk about things, you don't know.

crazyivan1970
04-18-2006, 10:54 AM
csThor, i totally understand your position and i agree on many points. The thing that bothers me the most is not the fact that they delayed it, what bothers me is silence. Like we dont even exist. That is the much bigger problem then anything else. Why is this happening...i do not know. But i cannot jump over my head...e-mail is the only thing i can use to communicate with them.

csThor
04-18-2006, 11:07 AM
Vladimir - since I have no connection to Lockon (modern Jets are for Kids http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif) I really don't know what is going on there. From my POV it looked like ED now has some freedom they didn't have when being allied to Ubisoft. Maybe I'm wrong (quite probably so), but still I think if the publisher is not doing its job (publishing and marketing the darn thing) then I would start thinking about a new method of distribution.

Ivan - that's precisely the problem. When Stormin and Co were gone the connection between the makers and the customers were held up by customer representatives (like you), Insiders (like SaQSoN) or Oleg himself. That says something about Ubisofts desinterest in our community and is a shame ...

Takata_
04-18-2006, 11:31 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by csThor:
(...)That says something about Ubisofts desinterest in our community and is a shame ... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Maybe they just start to become more than pissed off about this continuous Ubisoft-bashing along all threads of "our mighty community" and start to think about discarding such kind of gratefull customers.
S~
Takata.

csThor
04-18-2006, 11:41 AM
They've brought my disrespect onto themselves, takata. They've failed at promoting this series, they've failed to understand that aflight sim needs a different approach than a shooter. They're just harvesting what they sowed.

Takata_
04-18-2006, 11:56 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by csThor:
They've brought my disrespect onto themselves, takata. They've failed at promoting this series, they've failed to understand that aflight sim needs a different approach than a shooter. They're just harvesting what they sowed. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
If they failed to understand that, you wouldn't have a single Maddox Game product on your hard drive, then, they would have dropped the line way sooner and they were not investing again with 1C to produce the future of this sim.

Maybe you should ask yourself the right question: Isn't Oleg, because of the continuous pressure of this board, shooting himself in his leg with this game development?

Bashing Ubisoft for everything that frustrated you is so easy then. (Beside, you need some good product for sale to promote it).
S~
Takata.

nearmiss
04-18-2006, 12:12 PM
Expect unexpected things from "our source" and you'll never be disappointed.

I don't understand the paid-add part. Two bombers, some new graphic items and a campaign generator thingy. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

We've gotten a whole lot more in free download patches. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

I'm off doing the Pacific anyway...so Russian bombers at this point, are kinda "late" IMO http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

I wish you luck Oleg, whether it's free or a paid add-on. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

I like to be nice it suits me. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

csThor
04-18-2006, 12:17 PM
I've been around from the very start, Takata. I am not talking about this board here, but when Oleg made the first steps into public years ago on the old Combatsim.com board. So I know a few things about the initial development and the changes after Ubisoft took over. At first I was kinda happy that a huge publisher took it on to publish the series, but with each release the lack of interest, the lack of understanding of the different nature of Flight Sim customers became more and more apparent. I have no idea what Ubisoft hopes to achieve by contracting Oleg, but so far I can't see them fulfilling their due except the "putting-boxes-on-the-shelves" stuff.

Indeed you're right about the pressure of this board (and various others - don't forget SimHQ and Suchoi.ru) on Maddox Games. In my POV Oleg offered too much in the beginning and people fail to realize that MG isn't a bunch of magicians who just have to snap with their fingers and something miraculously appears. But most importantly MG has shot itself into the knee by their non-existant project management. The way things appeared and given the tiny snippets of information we get it seems the development process is anything but structured. This lack of structure is what hurts Oleg's team most IMO.

Toten_Waffe
04-18-2006, 12:18 PM
I believe the IL2 product range is very good and it deserves better from UBI in the way of promotion. To not even have a single paragraph on their website that the PE-2 addon even exists is a poor show.

If I could find a reliable importer of the non UBI tainted, Russian version of the game that will ship to the UK/US I would rather give my money straight to 1C than UBI.

The continuous support for the sim in the form of addons and patches has been entirely down to Oleg and team, completely independant of UBI and I believe that if the game was published in the west by a company such as Novalogic or another that has greater experience with the flightsim community than maybe UBI who probably only took it on to fill the gaps in its product range.

Or maybe im just talking a load of old pants.

nearmiss
04-18-2006, 12:22 PM
CsThor

I honest don't think Oleg has enough help. If the truth were known the guy is probably doing miracles with the crew he's got.

Willey
04-18-2006, 01:34 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by csThor:
Vladimir - since I have no connection to Lockon (modern Jets are for Kids http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif) I really don't know what is going on there. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

ED made a contract with Ubi to release 2 separate Addons for Lock On themself because Ubi had no interest in further support for the sim.
1. one was Flaming Cliffs, released in May 05.
2. one will be Black Shark, release very soon.
After these, they'll start over with a new sim, but the same engine (overhauled), a completely new title which Ubi has no rights on.

Troll2k
04-18-2006, 01:36 PM
There is no money in pc titles.Now if Ubi failed to mention an add on for a console game their headquarters would be in ruins.

CD_Ury
04-18-2006, 01:48 PM
Hi there guys.My opinion is that UBI will wait thill they got all the patches and theyl put them on CD or DVD. Corect me if im wrong http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif

TheGozr
04-18-2006, 03:40 PM
Ok 2 litle pics for you...

http://www.gozr.net/iocl/images/screen/pe21.jpg

http://www.gozr.net/iocl/images/screen/pe22.jpg

MadBadVlad
04-18-2006, 04:00 PM
Stop showing me pics of the damn thing and just show me a download link - that's all I am interested in now http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

TheGozr
04-18-2006, 04:12 PM
http://www.gozr.net/iocl/images/screen/pe2server.jpg

MadBadVlad
04-18-2006, 04:16 PM
Another nice v.404 screenie http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

TheGozr
04-18-2006, 04:23 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

MadBadVlad
04-18-2006, 04:27 PM
Yes, we know the Russian version is already out, this is not news to us http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif Why did you edit out the Russian v.405 splash screen you just posted in the above post ?

TheGozr
04-18-2006, 04:34 PM
Because... It's better, now we need to wait and see when they are going to deliver the version we need on this side of the planet.

danjama
04-18-2006, 04:37 PM
Hey Gozr, explain your quote to me? Looks interesting....

The one in your sig that is.

TheGozr
04-18-2006, 04:44 PM
Public Words from Oleg. long story, but this indicated a lack of knowledge to this serie

danjama
04-18-2006, 05:04 PM
Ah ok i think i understand....

LStarosta
04-18-2006, 05:16 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Toten_Waffe:
In the meantime Im actually running around the garden with my arms out stretched pretending to be a PE-2 while going "neawwwwww" "dakka-dakka" defending the city of Patiograd from the great beast, my neighbours facist invading cat. Its a bank holiday and I have noting else to do. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

May I suggest pornography?

VW-IceFire
04-18-2006, 05:43 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by danjama:
Ah ok i think i understand.... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I don't. I want to know more about the Yak-9. Love flying that plane. I KNOW...I KNOW...I need to come fly on the NN server. All due time...gotta get some of that http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Taylortony
04-18-2006, 08:01 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LStarosta:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Toten_Waffe:
In the meantime Im actually running around the garden with my arms out stretched pretending to be a PE-2 while going "neawwwwww" "dakka-dakka" defending the city of Patiograd from the great beast, my neighbours facist invading cat. Its a bank holiday and I have noting else to do. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

May I suggest pornography? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You mean Debbie does CFS of course...............

danjama
04-18-2006, 08:08 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by danjama:
Ah ok i think i understand.... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I don't. I want to know more about the Yak-9. Love flying that plane. I KNOW...I KNOW...I need to come fly on the NN server. All due time...gotta get some of that http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think by quoting that phrase from Oleg he is trying to say that not everything Oleg says is true or correct, in this case with reference to the Yak flight models. Thats what i am gettin from it at least. Maybe im reading it wrong.

AFJ_Locust
04-18-2006, 09:35 PM
OMG I MOWED THE LAWN ALL DAY SO I WOULD STAY OFF THE COMPUTER http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

NOW IM HERE & NOTHING HAS HAPPENED

ACK

BACK TO THE LAWNMOWER http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

arrow80
04-19-2006, 02:57 AM
bump!

Toten_Waffe
04-19-2006, 04:05 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LStarosta:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Toten_Waffe:
In the meantime Im actually running around the garden with my arms out stretched pretending to be a PE-2 while going "neawwwwww" "dakka-dakka" defending the city of Patiograd from the great beast, my neighbours facist invading cat. Its a bank holiday and I have noting else to do. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

May I suggest pornography? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



You can suggest that but it already occupies the other 50% of my time http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

ZappaTime
04-19-2006, 04:10 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Taylortony:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LStarosta:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Toten_Waffe:
In the meantime Im actually running around the garden with my arms out stretched pretending to be a PE-2 while going "neawwwwww" "dakka-dakka" defending the city of Patiograd from the great beast, my neighbours facist invading cat. Its a bank holiday and I have noting else to do. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

May I suggest pornography? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You mean Debbie does CFS of course............... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think somebody 'did' CFS long before Debbie http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

heywooood
04-19-2006, 08:23 AM
thought I was being smart, scheduling a day off in the middle of the week and two days after the 17th to allow for easy access to the Pe2 addon, and look what happens...story of my life.

ahh well - at least I'm not at work....

I'll never think or try to be smart ever again, what a waste of valuable idleness that is.


WTF UBI? ? ? get it together or tell us whats up. Where is it, eh?

Toten_Waffe
04-19-2006, 09:48 AM
Still no official news http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

So rather than jumping to conlusions and bashing UBI I have been hypothesising......what if;

There have been several very minor bugs highlighted in the Russian realease of the PE-2 addon. Oleg has said they will be fixed in the next pay for addon (Il-10/manchuria) and that there will not be an intermediary patch.
Maybe UBI will not release a product with known bugs in it (no matter how minor) and will not release it until the next addon or a patch is released.

Hypothesising over......could that be a realistic take on the situation?

whiteladder
04-19-2006, 09:54 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Maybe UBI will not release a product with known bugs </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Nice one, now that is funny...........

AFJ_Locust
04-19-2006, 09:57 AM
Maybe UBI is going to Hold all 3 releases

Then release one Pe-2 superpack ?

three addons for one high price instead of 3 seperate for lower price per unit ?

Who knows I just wich they would tell us something FFS !!!

heywooood
04-19-2006, 10:00 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by whiteladder:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Maybe UBI will not release a product with known bugs </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Nice one, now that is funny........... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


yeah - if I did the sig quotes thing, that one would be it..I would retire the rest.

sparty7200
04-19-2006, 10:07 AM
I say....Seems to me the customer is tapping his coins on the counter but the shop keeper ain't listening~!...BAD SHOW old boy!!!..what what!!

nearmiss
04-19-2006, 11:08 AM
I'm reading all this and wondering...

2 new aircraft, a few graphic items, a map and a campaign thingy.

This along with the total lack of promotion doesn't sound like a paid add-on to me.

Oleg has given us a lot more in patches almost everytime.

Besides... a pair of Russian bombers when we're already into the Pacific does seem a little after the fact.

I'm not arguing, that's just my take on this.

heywooood
04-19-2006, 11:17 AM
I don't care if its paid or free - I just want it and it really blows that no one is saying why it isn't available after it was advertised as being so as of the 17th of this month...

as far as the content goes - I think it is admirable that some long missing and vital aircraft is being recognised and included here at the back end - the Pe2 belongs in FB it was a vital participant. Good on Oleg for seeing it done.

Capt.England
04-19-2006, 12:20 PM
Maybe some `U.S.` company owns the rights on the Pe-2?

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif

heywooood
04-19-2006, 12:25 PM
fire starterer... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

Capt.England
04-19-2006, 12:32 PM
He He...Just a little fishing! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

Andrew OConnor
04-19-2006, 01:24 PM
When oh when? oh when? oh well. I am waiting wih baited breath although i am going blue I have been wating for so long. If my dad gets any flights to the CIS in the near future, i my ask him to bring a shopload iof the pe2 disks home with him, distribute them with 0% profit? Sounds nice, although dad doesnt go to the CIS too much now...http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif its the 19th, and still nothing.

lowfighter
04-19-2006, 02:33 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Andrew OConnor:
When oh when? oh when? oh well. I am waiting wih baited breath although i am going blue I have been wating for so long. If my dad gets any flights to the CIS in the near future, i my ask him to bring a shopload iof the pe2 disks home with him, distribute them with 0% profit? Sounds nice, although dad doesnt go to the CIS too much now...http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif its the 19th, and still nothing. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Andrew, in the mean time how about some battlefield shots you were saying you want to post in the FMB forum?
Cheers!

Andrew OConnor
04-19-2006, 03:26 PM
Things have been buisy recently around the house, what with a vacation and a bit of a house rebuild, only minor, but there is dust all over from plastering. THe HD took a wipe a month ago, and so everything has had to be reinstalled...
BUT... Give me 'till monday and I may have something for the battlefield http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

J_Weaver
04-19-2006, 03:32 PM
This is an odd situation. A delay is understandable, but the silence isn't. I just don'y understand why there hasn't been any offical word. Even if its "go jump in the lake." it would be better than nothing.

sparty7200
04-19-2006, 04:06 PM
Perhaps Ubi have gone on strike...ubi is French aint it? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif..what with students rampaging an all

Agamemnon22
04-19-2006, 06:49 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Haigotron:

really? interesting...was it at ubisoft headquarters...they dont let me come to close to their building...ever since...well... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nah, not at the HQ. They don't let me in there either http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif It was a freelance effort, some here, some in Kiev.

PBNA-Boosher
04-19-2006, 07:04 PM
I getting worried now. No news, not even on the UBI site? Nothing from UBIRazz? Grab your pitchforks everyone, it's time to chase a big green monster and his daddy!

JG53Harti
04-20-2006, 01:04 AM
and first servers are using 4.05m
nice UBI http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

TriFire420
04-20-2006, 04:47 AM
I think its cause ubi dumped starforce and there testing a new cd protection, thats my specualation at any point..

VVS-Manuc
04-20-2006, 06:47 AM
I think I better grab my saved money and order Aerosoft's Lukla-Airport addon for FS 2004 now http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

F19_Orheim
04-20-2006, 09:59 AM
bump

Toten_Waffe
04-20-2006, 11:13 AM
Chad says...........

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a20/toten_waffe/chadnew.jpg