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Kuna_
03-07-2006, 12:00 PM
Ok.
We already get more than we have paid for, I think that most of us can agree on that.
New patches cost money, work and time.
So... question, is yes, why do they keep with free patch support?
I'm thankful and pleased with that, just to clarify my position.

Discuss.

Kuna_
03-07-2006, 12:00 PM
Ok.
We already get more than we have paid for, I think that most of us can agree on that.
New patches cost money, work and time.
So... question, is yes, why do they keep with free patch support?
I'm thankful and pleased with that, just to clarify my position.

Discuss.

jds1978
03-07-2006, 12:02 PM
to keep things going till we buy BoB

Brain32
03-07-2006, 12:19 PM
Because I think there is waaaaaaay more than money that keeps them doing this.
As I understanded O.Maddox is also a WW2 aviation enthusiast so money is not his only and main motivation for his work, that's IMO a good deal of reason this sim is so good. And also, support like this is great in marketing sense, no game or game company can compare or compete with them.
I hope they know, that inspite of all our whining, we appriciate their work. But also so much whining means that we care, and that we plan to stay http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

russ.nl
03-07-2006, 12:19 PM
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rnzoli
03-07-2006, 12:23 PM
Because of the above
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we are beta-testing for BoB as well.

HAPPILY!

Doug_Thompson
03-07-2006, 12:29 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rnzoli:
Because of the above
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we are beta-testing for BoB as well.

HAPPILY! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif

Dew-Claw
03-07-2006, 01:16 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Kuna_:
Ok.
We already get more than we have paid for, I think that most of us can agree on that.
New patches cost money, work and time.
So... question, is yes, why do they keep with free patch support?
I'm thankful and pleased with that, just to clarify my position.

Discuss. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Didn't your Momma ever teach you to never,NEVER,EVER look a gift horse in the mouth?

LOL
I had to edit this post because I 1st missed the "S" in Horse...
Your free to check the mouth of a gift hore I guess. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Kuna_
03-07-2006, 01:51 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Dew-Claw:
hore </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

"S" isn't the only thing you have missed. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Treetop64
03-07-2006, 01:53 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Doug_Thompson:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rnzoli:
Because of the above
+
we are beta-testing for BoB as well.

HAPPILY! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif too!

Tully__
03-07-2006, 07:53 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Treetop64:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Doug_Thompson:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rnzoli:
Because of the above
+
we are beta-testing for BoB as well.

HAPPILY! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif too! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
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blakduk
03-07-2006, 08:09 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tully__:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Treetop64:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Doug_Thompson:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rnzoli:
Because of the above
+
we are beta-testing for BoB as well.

HAPPILY! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif too! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
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danjama
03-07-2006, 08:22 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by blakduk:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tully__:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Treetop64:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Doug_Thompson:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rnzoli:
Because of the above
+
we are beta-testing for BoB as well.

HAPPILY! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif too! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
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http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif four (ibtl) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hell Why not http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif (five)

Bearcat99
03-07-2006, 09:29 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by danjama:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by blakduk:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tully__:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Treetop64:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Doug_Thompson:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rnzoli:
Because of the above
+
we are beta-testing for BoB as well.

HAPPILY! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif too! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Hell Why not http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif (five) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Badsight.
03-07-2006, 09:46 PM
Maddox Games care about their product

the head of MG has a deep interest in WW2 aviation


otoh , we have video game conglomerate Electronic Arts . EA makes X amount of games a year - lots of those releases are graphical updates that suck & are pumped out just to milk cash

slo_1_2_3
03-07-2006, 09:48 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bearcat99:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by danjama:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by blakduk:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tully__:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Treetop64:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Doug_Thompson:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rnzoli:
Because of the above
+
we are beta-testing for BoB as well.

HAPPILY! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif too! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Hell Why not http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif (five) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
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i couldnt help it

Enforcer572005
03-07-2006, 09:50 PM
This is the most bizzarre thread ive seen in months....very artistic though.

The continued support also attracts still more flyers. PF is still selling in walmart at least, and we keep getting new blood here all the time. Plus i figure its gonna be years before BOB even approaches the level of expansion and coveraget this sim does. We will still be here several yrs from now i predict, even after BOB . We still wanna fly carriers and the pacific, and theres some incredible cmpns out there that will take yrs to fly all of them.... my opinion anyhow. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif

VW-IceFire
03-07-2006, 09:51 PM
I think you folks have nailed it on the head. Above all else, Oleg Maddox and I suspect a good portion of his team, are WWII aviation enthusiasts just like we are. They are lucky/cursed to have the talent to make that interest live again in a digital interactive format.

We love it as much as they do. I think they deserve their dues and look forward to paying for the latest addons as they come this summer.

willyvic
03-07-2006, 09:57 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by slo_1_2_3:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bearcat99:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by danjama:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by blakduk:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tully__:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Treetop64:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Doug_Thompson:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rnzoli:
Because of the above
+
we are beta-testing for BoB as well.

HAPPILY! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif too! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Hell Why not http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif (five) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
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i couldnt help it </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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jermin122
03-07-2006, 10:09 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I hope they know, that inspite of all our whining, we appriciate their work. But also so much whining means that we care, and that we plan to stay </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Exactly´╝┬ü

XyZspineZyX
03-08-2006, 01:19 AM
I believe Oleg Maddox & the developers of IL2 have cornered the market & with the enormous support they continue to give this sim, they demonstrate to the flightsim & general simulation community that this product is fully supported regardless of age. Therefore future products such as BOB will recieve the same level of support. So the community that fully supports IL2 will purchase anything produced by Oleg Maddox & co. Its good buisiness scence.
Oleg Maddox has cornered the flight sim market.

flakwagen
03-08-2006, 03:02 AM
It does puzzle me as to why they continue to release updates with new features so long after the original publish date. There is no fiscal benefit to this practice. Adding an obscure variant of this or that isn't going to magically inspire 2000 more people to buy the game. I personally think FB has reached the limit of its development potential. It would be prudent to focus all creative energies on the new product.

Of course I will not boycott any future FB patches that include new features! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Flak

rnzoli
03-08-2006, 03:17 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">It does puzzle me as to why they continue to release updates with new features so long after the original publish date. There is no fiscal benefit to this practice. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I gave a thought about this, but I am not so sure. In this narrow market segment, the customer base is difficult to build, and erosion has a stronger effect than in other segments. The patches drop fresh water into the IL2 pond, create waves of discussions, raises attention again, liven up the online scene, re-activate mission builders etc. Besides the obvious short-term benefits, e.g., that word of mouth brings in odd new customers, it can also help to preserve a strong customer base, which will be the critical mass to buy BoB after its launch. IMO.

OldMan___
03-08-2006, 05:08 AM
Lo... soon Oleg will come, post quoting the counting reply and add "(ten)" to it.

djetz
03-08-2006, 05:19 AM
Maybe the Maddox team are just nice people.

It's possible, you know.

Slechtvalk
03-08-2006, 05:51 AM
It's his little baby.
You just can't stop caring!

F6_Ace
03-08-2006, 06:20 AM
What a romantic notion that they do it simply out of love.

I doubt their masters at UBI/EA give that much consideration when they look ask to look at the company bottom line.

Current dev work is to keep people interested until BoB arrives....whenever that may be.

Or, to use the time to beta test more flight models with a distraction of the odd new plane and a paid add on here and there.

Doug_Thompson
03-08-2006, 08:41 AM
Love the sig picture of Boyd, jermin122

foxyboy1964
03-08-2006, 09:17 AM
Surely its because Oleg et al love the game as much as we do. There is no doubt about it, no company I have ever heard of can compete them. Salute Oleg http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif.