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Patriot_Act
02-07-2008, 02:25 AM
An Australian group is overhauling a Type 18 Bristol Centaurus engine. The intention is to return this engine back to Airworthiness, and then be reinstalled back into the Sea Fury that is also being overhauled to Airworthy standard.

Whilst we do have some parts and information for this job, we would like to know more! If anyone has information, or knows of someone that may be familiar with the machining process involved in the manufacture of the sleeves, and even the machines used for this job, it would be greatly received and very much appreciated.

We do have some information (metallurgy content , tolerances) but we would like some of the finer details of the machining process, and the machines they were produced on. If anyone has this information, please pass it on via hx@enginehistory.org

P.A.

Patriot_Act
02-07-2008, 02:25 AM
An Australian group is overhauling a Type 18 Bristol Centaurus engine. The intention is to return this engine back to Airworthiness, and then be reinstalled back into the Sea Fury that is also being overhauled to Airworthy standard.

Whilst we do have some parts and information for this job, we would like to know more! If anyone has information, or knows of someone that may be familiar with the machining process involved in the manufacture of the sleeves, and even the machines used for this job, it would be greatly received and very much appreciated.

We do have some information (metallurgy content , tolerances) but we would like some of the finer details of the machining process, and the machines they were produced on. If anyone has this information, please pass it on via hx@enginehistory.org

P.A.

Bartman.
02-07-2008, 06:45 AM
Found this >
http://www.vintagev12s.com/projects-engines-BristolC.htm

They Say they stock parts mite worth a try .

Bartman .

luftluuver
02-07-2008, 08:06 AM
A centreless grinder is used for sleeve production/machining.

There is a contact form on this site, http://www.warbirddepot.com/aircraft_fighters_fury-cafms.asp

The CAF Memphis Squadron have a flying Hawker Sea Fury FB.11.

Patriot_Act
02-07-2008, 11:57 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by luftluuver:
A centreless grinder is used for sleeve production/machining.

There is a contact form on this site, http://www.warbirddepot.com/aircraft_fighters_fury-cafms.asp

The CAF Memphis Squadron have a flying Hawker Sea Fury FB.11. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

At this time I believe all airworthy Sea Furys
are powered by Wright R-3350s lifted from Douglas Skyraiders.
Only a couple of years ago there was a Bristol powered
Seafury flying.
Bristol Hercules and Centaurus radials are not
a normal engine and totaly alien to most rebuild shops being of reciprocating sleve valve design.
Bristol went extinct in the early 1960s and RR
does not make parts.

Shame Britian was so shortsighted as to exterminate all those
grand old engineering firms and aircraft companys.

P.A.

One13
02-07-2008, 12:31 PM
These people might have some useful information, they have a Centaurus in their Sea Fury-
Royal Navy Historic Flight (http://www.royalnavyhistoricflight.org.uk/home/)

JtD
02-07-2008, 12:42 PM
Now I have nothing helpful to add, I'd just wish you best luck with your project.

I'm looking forward to be hearing the sound!

ARCHIE_CALVERT
02-07-2008, 12:50 PM
Patriot, you might try asking here:

http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=4

And run a search on 'Bristol Centaurus' while your there as well... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Also here:

http://www.pprune.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=e2d891e...aa594141fd6ea9f&f=86 (http://www.pprune.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=e2d891e7b1089b77faa594141fd6ea9 f&f=86)

Good luck... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

MB_Avro_UK
02-07-2008, 01:17 PM
Well, I can't help but it's amazing the talent and knowledge that's available on this forum http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Taylortony
02-11-2008, 12:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Patriot_Act:
An Australian group is overhauling a Type 18 Bristol Centaurus engine. The intention is to return this engine back to Airworthiness, and then be reinstalled back into the Sea Fury that is also being overhauled to Airworthy standard.

Whilst we do have some parts and information for this job, we would like to know more! If anyone has information, or knows of someone that may be familiar with the machining process involved in the manufacture of the sleeves, and even the machines used for this job, it would be greatly received and very much appreciated.

We do have some information (metallurgy content , tolerances) but we would like some of the finer details of the machining process, and the machines they were produced on. If anyone has this information, please pass it on via hx@enginehistory.org

P.A. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Sorry for the delay in answering,

Ok, asked some questions on your behalf through contacts at Rolls Royce today who deal with their airworthy Spitfire . They do no longer hold any specific information on the Centaurus that would help you out.

The last two Engines that were overhauled for the Royal Navy Historical Branch were carried out By Ricardo Engineering.

I am assuming it is this company, though I can look it up for you if required at work.

http://www.ricardo.com/engineeringservices/default.aspx

It was suggested your best bet would be to speak directly to the RNHF ( Royal Navy Historical Flight )

Their site is

http://royalnavyhistoricflight.org.uk/home/

Their current engine will be going for rework in the US.


see site and I quote

"We continue to seek approval to get the Centaurus engine from VR930 across to America for Vintage V12 to overhaul. Chief Engineer Howard Read visited them in November and came away very impressed with their facilities. We almost certainly will need pistons and rings to be manufactured to effect the overhaul. In the meantime, plans are afoot to fit data gathering equipment to the aircraft.This will give an early indication of any future airframe or engine problems."

see

http://www.vintagev12s.com/home.htm

I hope that helps you.

Regards Tony